On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:43:44 -0700, jps wrote:

Does getting in a wrestling match with a cop through
his cruiser window make Michael Brown a felon?

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It absoluely does. Assault on a LEO is almost always a felony.

On 8/26/2014 1:43 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 17:44:14 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:01:54 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:26:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, August 23, 2014 5:05:54 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:

In this case, because he disengaged with the young man before firing
the kills shots, it could be considered premeditated and in the first
degree.

You're a hoot. You have no idea what the circumstances are, if any disengagement occurred, or if the officer felt his life was in danger as the thug charged him again after nearly beating the officer to death.

Whitey cop bad, right?

The "beat5ing" has been overstated a bit, the cop was punched or
slapped in the face but you hit a cop, you are going to be in trouble,
no matter what.
If this thug repeated the same thing we saw on the store video (turn
and try to threaten with his bulk) , he was going to be shot .. In
Missouri, New York or even yuppie assed San Francisco.

CNN seems to have some witnesses who back up the cop version of the
story but they are too afraid to go on camera.
I notice the news anchors are softening on their predictions of a
prosecution.
In real life, charging a cop for killing a felon in the process of an
arrest is pretty rare

For the folks who think otherwise, do not underestimate the power of
the police unions.

Hahahaha!!! "CNN seems to have..." What a joke.

CNN seemed to have discovered the missing Malaysian plane at least a
couple of dozen times while they were busy selling advertising.

Do you prefer Fox?

The reality of this incident has not even been presented yet but you
have already made up your mind. Nobody has seen the original autopsy
when GSR would have been present and a fresh body was examined. Nobody
has seen any evidence that may have been in the car, detailed evidence
at the scene like where the shell casings landed or even where the cop
was in reference to the dead guy. They also have not presented the
evidence from the clothing that may have GSR or be an indication of
where the thug;'s arms where when he was shot.

My bet is you folks are going to like how all of that comes out.

As I said, using Missouri law, the cop could have legally shot him in
the back. He was a fleeing felon, who used violence against the
officer. Bang Bang you are dead

Fleeing felon? Does getting in a wrestling match with a cop through
his cruiser window make Michael Brown a felon?



It has not been determined what happened while Wilson was still in the
cruiser. Witness reports vary. It will be up to the grand jury to
decide if charges are to be filed (which I suspect will happen).

BTW:

(Mo.Ann. Stat. §565.050).

Under Missouri law, the most serious assault crimes are assault in the
first degree and assault in the second degree. Both of these crimes are
felonies.

A person is guilty of assault in the first degree if he:

knowingly attempts to kill another person, or
knowingly causes or attempts to cause another person serious
physical injury.

If a first degree assault results in serious physical injury to the
victim, the crime is a Class A felony which is punishable by 10 to 30
years, or even life in prison. If a first degree assault does not result
in serious physical injury to the victim, the crime is a Class B felony,
punishable by five to 15 years in prison.

On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 2:22:31 PM UTC-4, Wayne. B wrote:


The LEO called Brown to his car for questioning. Brown
responded by punching the cop in the face and tried to grab his gun. A
shot was fired in the ensuing struggle. Brown then fled on foot and
at some point turned around. Everything beyond that is speculation
and conjecture.

Another rapper/street thug in training. Sounds like the cop saved the state some money compared to his certain incarceration later.

On 8/26/2014 1:26 PM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:49:49 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:02:48 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 09:33:53 -0400, BAR wrote:


Please explain the cops injuries to his head and face, which occurred
prior to the cop shooting the 6'4" 300 man.

Not the issue. By *all* accounts, the kid was retreating.

100% total bull****, period... the *only* account of him retreating is
the kid who robbed the store with him you idiot...


You cannot
shoot an unarmed person while they're retreating, it's murder.

All of the shots were in the front. If this was in the back I would
agree with you although Missouri does allow a cop to shoot a fleeing
forcible felon. The cop did get the radio call about the "strong
armed robbery" and that is a "B" felony.

Bull****, no connection. The contact had nothing whatsoever to do
with a robbery.

The kid was not a felon, not even a suspect. He dissed a white cop
who felt justified in taking his rage out on that kid. He's a cold
blooded murderer.

Witnesses have the cop 20 - 25 feet away. Cops are not given
permission by MO law to fire on a suspect without their lives being
threatened. This was murder.

I don't know where you're getting your information, but it's a bad
source.


You are just making it up as you go along...

On 8/26/2014 1:28 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 18:43:44 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:03:11 -0700, jps wrote:

I see, if he's arrested it will because of political pressure, not
because he's a suspect in a murder investigation.

I am glad you are starting to see.

There is a lynch mob threatening to burn the city if he is not.
When did we start letting mobs and TV commentators decide who gets
charged with crimes?

Zimmerman I guess.


Lynch mob? How about the single cop lynch mob who decided this kid
needed to be shot six times in 11 attempts from a distance?

When did that happen, it didn't, but you are a typical racist liar...


I see you're in the white boy cheering section.

On 8/26/2014 1:43 PM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 17:44:14 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:01:54 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:26:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, August 23, 2014 5:05:54 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:

In this case, because he disengaged with the young man before firing
the kills shots, it could be considered premeditated and in the first
degree.

You're a hoot. You have no idea what the circumstances are, if any disengagement occurred, or if the officer felt his life was in danger as the thug charged him again after nearly beating the officer to death.

Whitey cop bad, right?

The "beat5ing" has been overstated a bit, the cop was punched or
slapped in the face but you hit a cop, you are going to be in trouble,
no matter what.
If this thug repeated the same thing we saw on the store video (turn
and try to threaten with his bulk) , he was going to be shot .. In
Missouri, New York or even yuppie assed San Francisco.

CNN seems to have some witnesses who back up the cop version of the
story but they are too afraid to go on camera.
I notice the news anchors are softening on their predictions of a
prosecution.
In real life, charging a cop for killing a felon in the process of an
arrest is pretty rare

For the folks who think otherwise, do not underestimate the power of
the police unions.

Hahahaha!!! "CNN seems to have..." What a joke.

CNN seemed to have discovered the missing Malaysian plane at least a
couple of dozen times while they were busy selling advertising.

Do you prefer Fox?

The reality of this incident has not even been presented yet but you
have already made up your mind. Nobody has seen the original autopsy
when GSR would have been present and a fresh body was examined. Nobody
has seen any evidence that may have been in the car, detailed evidence
at the scene like where the shell casings landed or even where the cop
was in reference to the dead guy. They also have not presented the
evidence from the clothing that may have GSR or be an indication of
where the thug;'s arms where when he was shot.

My bet is you folks are going to like how all of that comes out.

As I said, using Missouri law, the cop could have legally shot him in
the back. He was a fleeing felon, who used violence against the
officer. Bang Bang you are dead

Fleeing felon? Does getting in a wrestling match with a cop through
his cruiser window make Michael Brown a felon?


Yes.

On 8/26/2014 2:16 PM, Harrold wrote:
On 8/26/2014 11:43 AM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 17:44:14 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:01:54 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:26:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, August 23, 2014 5:05:54 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:

In this case, because he disengaged with the young man before firing
the kills shots, it could be considered premeditated and in the
first
degree.

You're a hoot. You have no idea what the circumstances are, if
any disengagement occurred, or if the officer felt his life was in
danger as the thug charged him again after nearly beating the
officer to death.

Whitey cop bad, right?

The "beat5ing" has been overstated a bit, the cop was punched or
slapped in the face but you hit a cop, you are going to be in trouble,
no matter what.
If this thug repeated the same thing we saw on the store video (turn
and try to threaten with his bulk) , he was going to be shot .. In
Missouri, New York or even yuppie assed San Francisco.

CNN seems to have some witnesses who back up the cop version of the
story but they are too afraid to go on camera.
I notice the news anchors are softening on their predictions of a
prosecution.
In real life, charging a cop for killing a felon in the process of an
arrest is pretty rare

For the folks who think otherwise, do not underestimate the power of
the police unions.

Hahahaha!!! "CNN seems to have..." What a joke.

CNN seemed to have discovered the missing Malaysian plane at least a
couple of dozen times while they were busy selling advertising.

Do you prefer Fox?

The reality of this incident has not even been presented yet but you
have already made up your mind. Nobody has seen the original autopsy
when GSR would have been present and a fresh body was examined. Nobody
has seen any evidence that may have been in the car, detailed evidence
at the scene like where the shell casings landed or even where the cop
was in reference to the dead guy. They also have not presented the
evidence from the clothing that may have GSR or be an indication of
where the thug;'s arms where when he was shot.

My bet is you folks are going to like how all of that comes out.

As I said, using Missouri law, the cop could have legally shot him in
the back. He was a fleeing felon, who used violence against the
officer. Bang Bang you are dead

Fleeing felon? Does getting in a wrestling match with a cop through
his cruiser window make Michael Brown a felon?


The reality of this incident has not even been presented yet but you
have already made up your mind that the cop is a murderer. You should
think a little before you shoot your mouth off, Mr. JPS.

Mr, JPS is a liar, only here with some cowardly agenda. Remember, on one
hand he screams that we don't need guns because we can call the police,
and insists that is all he needs to protect his family, and that works
for that thread, now cops are dirty rotten murders for this thread. You
see, he has no real answers or stand, except he doesn't want anybody
else to have guns like him.. and I know he says he got rid of all his,
but he also says he's counting on the cops, lol... don't believe
anything he says, you will be better off...

On 8/26/2014 9:08 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:26:04 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:49:49 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:02:48 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 09:33:53 -0400, BAR wrote:


Please explain the cops injuries to his head and face, which occurred
prior to the cop shooting the 6'4" 300 man.

Not the issue. By *all* accounts, the kid was retreating. You cannot
shoot an unarmed person while they're retreating, it's murder.

All of the shots were in the front. If this was in the back I would
agree with you although Missouri does allow a cop to shoot a fleeing
forcible felon. The cop did get the radio call about the "strong
armed robbery" and that is a "B" felony.

Bull****, no connection. The contact had nothing whatsoever to do
with a robbery.

Lie, period...


The cop's story was he got the radio call about the robbery after the
initial encounter and the second encounter when he was assaulted.
That is easily verified by the radio logs so if he is lying it won't
take long to find out


The kid was not a felon, not even a suspect. He dissed a white cop
who felt justified in taking his rage out on that kid. He's a cold
blooded murderer.

Lie, period...

"Dissed" involved a punch in the face, that is felony #2

Witnesses have the cop 20 - 25 feet away.

Half truth, the guy who robbed the store said that.
Cops are not given
permission by MO law to fire on a suspect without their lives being
threatened.

Lie, they can shoot a fleeing felon and once he tried to kill the cop,
he was a "fleeing felon"... Period...
This was murder.

Lie, conjecture based on fantasy and racism..

We really do not know the distance. One "witness:" was the accomplice
in the robbery who had already lied to the police.
Another was inside getting her phone when the shooting actually
occurred. I am not sure what the others say or how well they will hold
up to cross examination. Let's see how all of this matches the crime
scene evidence.
As a general rule, the court believes what a cop says. Ever get a
speeding ticket? What was the evidence?


II don't know where you're getting your information, but it's a bad
source.

Rediculous, how come you keep coming late to the party and still pretend
you have heard no opposing evidence, you are a liar. I have seen your
pattern for years, you are not fooling anybody.


Mostly lawyers on CNN.
The fact still remains that if you attack a cop, you are going to get
shot or,. if there are enough cops around, beaten within an inch of
your life.
That is just true, like it or not. Cops do not tolerate taking a punch
when they are taking a suspect into custody.
If there is any evidence at all that this thug was closing on the cop,
after already assaulting him, he was going to be shot and the law will
back up the cop.

On 8/26/2014 9:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:28:49 -0700, jps wrote:

How about the single cop lynch mob who decided this kid
needed to be shot six times in 11 attempts from a distance?

How about the purple fairies floating around during the event? How about
the Blue Unicorn????

I haven't heard the "11 shots" story but I am not surprised. I have
already said the real crime here was the horrible shooting skill of
this cop

We are still waiting for the actual "distance" thing.
It will be pretty easy to determine by where the body landed and where
the shell casings were. That is evidence, not anecdotes from people
who hate cops.

It is interesting that in the other incident in St Louis, where the
cops shot the guy with the knife, the stories about the distance were
no where near what the video showed.
That guy was much closer than the 21 feet the cops use as the danger
zone.

On 8/26/2014 9:26 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:22:31 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:26:04 -0700, jps wrote:

Witnesses have the cop 20 - 25 feet away. Cops are not given
permission by MO law to fire on a suspect without their lives being
threatened. This was murder.

I don't know where you're getting your information, but it's a bad
source.

===

I don't know where you're getting information either, but it's a bad
source. The LEO called Brown to his car for questioning. Brown
responded by punching the cop in the face and tried to grab his gun. A
shot was fired in the ensuing struggle. Brown then fled on foot and
at some point turned around. Everything beyond that is speculation
and conjecture.

We already know what Brown's state of mind was. He had just robbed a
store using nothing but his size and physical power.

The idea that he thought he could intimidate the cop by charging at
him is not hard to believe at all,. We just watched him do it in the
store, on tape.

He brought that macho to a gun fight and lost.


The only injustice here is the cop has to get his life ruined by
assholes like al sharpton.