On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:56:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/23/2014 9:26 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, August 23, 2014 5:05:54 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:

In this case, because he disengaged with the young man before firing
the kills shots, it could be considered premeditated and in the first
degree.

You're a hoot. You have no idea what the circumstances are, if any disengagement occurred, or if the officer felt his life was in danger as the thug charged him again after nearly beating the officer to death.

Whitey cop bad, right?

The "beat5ing" has been overstated a bit, the cop was punched or
slapped in the face but you hit a cop, you are going to be in trouble,
no matter what.
If this thug repeated the same thing we saw on the store video (turn
and try to threaten with his bulk) , he was going to be shot .. In
Missouri, New York or even yuppie assed San Francisco.

CNN seems to have some witnesses who back up the cop version of the
story but they are too afraid to go on camera.
I notice the news anchors are softening on their predictions of a
prosecution.
In real life, charging a cop for killing a felon in the process of an
arrest is pretty rare

For the folks who think otherwise, do not underestimate the power of
the police unions.


Due mostly to the immediate reaction to the shooting Holden opened a
federal investigation based on civil rights violations.
The FBI has been in town conducting witness interviews. A federal
autopsy (the third) has been completed.

The Feds have the authority to detain and/or arrest Wilson. They
haven't. Why?

In the end I think he will probably be arrested and charged with
something. The whole issue is too hot of a political potato.

I see, if he's arrested it will because of political pressure, not
because he's a suspect in a murder investigation.

On 8/24/2014 3:03 PM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:56:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/23/2014 9:26 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, August 23, 2014 5:05:54 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:

In this case, because he disengaged with the young man before firing
the kills shots, it could be considered premeditated and in the first
degree.

You're a hoot. You have no idea what the circumstances are, if any disengagement occurred, or if the officer felt his life was in danger as the thug charged him again after nearly beating the officer to death.

Whitey cop bad, right?

The "beat5ing" has been overstated a bit, the cop was punched or
slapped in the face but you hit a cop, you are going to be in trouble,
no matter what.
If this thug repeated the same thing we saw on the store video (turn
and try to threaten with his bulk) , he was going to be shot .. In
Missouri, New York or even yuppie assed San Francisco.

CNN seems to have some witnesses who back up the cop version of the
story but they are too afraid to go on camera.
I notice the news anchors are softening on their predictions of a
prosecution.
In real life, charging a cop for killing a felon in the process of an
arrest is pretty rare

For the folks who think otherwise, do not underestimate the power of
the police unions.


Due mostly to the immediate reaction to the shooting Holden opened a
federal investigation based on civil rights violations.
The FBI has been in town conducting witness interviews. A federal
autopsy (the third) has been completed.

The Feds have the authority to detain and/or arrest Wilson. They
haven't. Why?

In the end I think he will probably be arrested and charged with
something. The whole issue is too hot of a political potato.

I see, if he's arrested it will because of political pressure, not
because he's a suspect in a murder investigation.



Let's see what the grand jury thinks after hearing all the evidence and
the 3 autopsy results.

Information leaking out ... fact or fiction ... is painting a different
picture than what was initially put out by the media.

My concern is the reaction that will take place if the grand jury finds
Wilson to have been within his rights and authority. That's why I
think politics will become involved.

On 8/24/2014 3:03 PM, jps wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:56:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 8/23/2014 9:26 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, August 23, 2014 5:05:54 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:

In this case, because he disengaged with the young man before firing
the kills shots, it could be considered premeditated and in the first
degree.

You're a hoot. You have no idea what the circumstances are, if any disengagement occurred, or if the officer felt his life was in danger as the thug charged him again after nearly beating the officer to death.

Whitey cop bad, right?

The "beat5ing" has been overstated a bit, the cop was punched or
slapped in the face but you hit a cop, you are going to be in trouble,
no matter what.
If this thug repeated the same thing we saw on the store video (turn
and try to threaten with his bulk) , he was going to be shot .. In
Missouri, New York or even yuppie assed San Francisco.

CNN seems to have some witnesses who back up the cop version of the
story but they are too afraid to go on camera.
I notice the news anchors are softening on their predictions of a
prosecution.
In real life, charging a cop for killing a felon in the process of an
arrest is pretty rare

For the folks who think otherwise, do not underestimate the power of
the police unions.


Due mostly to the immediate reaction to the shooting Holden opened a
federal investigation based on civil rights violations.
The FBI has been in town conducting witness interviews. A federal
autopsy (the third) has been completed.

The Feds have the authority to detain and/or arrest Wilson. They
haven't. Why?

In the end I think he will probably be arrested and charged with
something. The whole issue is too hot of a political potato.

I see, if he's arrested it will because of political pressure, not
because he's a suspect in a murder investigation.


Exactly, because the evidence is clear.. The cop is 100% innocent which
is easily proved by the fact that Al Sharpton says he isn't.

wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:03:11 -0700, jps wrote:

I see, if he's arrested it will because of political pressure, not
because he's a suspect in a murder investigation.

I am glad you are starting to see.

There is a lynch mob threatening to burn the city if he is not.
When did we start letting mobs and TV commentators decide who gets
charged with crimes?

Zimmerman I guess.

Hearst, and yellow journalism. Remember the Maine.

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:49:49 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:02:48 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 09:33:53 -0400, BAR wrote:


Please explain the cops injuries to his head and face, which occurred
prior to the cop shooting the 6'4" 300 man.

Not the issue. By *all* accounts, the kid was retreating. You cannot
shoot an unarmed person while they're retreating, it's murder.

All of the shots were in the front. If this was in the back I would
agree with you although Missouri does allow a cop to shoot a fleeing
forcible felon. The cop did get the radio call about the "strong
armed robbery" and that is a "B" felony.

Bull****, no connection. The contact had nothing whatsoever to do
with a robbery.

The kid was not a felon, not even a suspect. He dissed a white cop
who felt justified in taking his rage out on that kid. He's a cold
blooded murderer.

Witnesses have the cop 20 - 25 feet away. Cops are not given
permission by MO law to fire on a suspect without their lives being
threatened. This was murder.

I don't know where you're getting your information, but it's a bad
source.

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 18:43:44 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:03:11 -0700, jps wrote:

I see, if he's arrested it will because of political pressure, not
because he's a suspect in a murder investigation.

I am glad you are starting to see.

There is a lynch mob threatening to burn the city if he is not.
When did we start letting mobs and TV commentators decide who gets
charged with crimes?

Zimmerman I guess.


Lynch mob? How about the single cop lynch mob who decided this kid
needed to be shot six times in 11 attempts from a distance?

I see you're in the white boy cheering section.

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 17:44:14 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:01:54 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:26:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, August 23, 2014 5:05:54 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:

In this case, because he disengaged with the young man before firing
the kills shots, it could be considered premeditated and in the first
degree.

You're a hoot. You have no idea what the circumstances are, if any disengagement occurred, or if the officer felt his life was in danger as the thug charged him again after nearly beating the officer to death.

Whitey cop bad, right?

The "beat5ing" has been overstated a bit, the cop was punched or
slapped in the face but you hit a cop, you are going to be in trouble,
no matter what.
If this thug repeated the same thing we saw on the store video (turn
and try to threaten with his bulk) , he was going to be shot .. In
Missouri, New York or even yuppie assed San Francisco.

CNN seems to have some witnesses who back up the cop version of the
story but they are too afraid to go on camera.
I notice the news anchors are softening on their predictions of a
prosecution.
In real life, charging a cop for killing a felon in the process of an
arrest is pretty rare

For the folks who think otherwise, do not underestimate the power of
the police unions.

Hahahaha!!! "CNN seems to have..." What a joke.

CNN seemed to have discovered the missing Malaysian plane at least a
couple of dozen times while they were busy selling advertising.

Do you prefer Fox?

The reality of this incident has not even been presented yet but you
have already made up your mind. Nobody has seen the original autopsy
when GSR would have been present and a fresh body was examined. Nobody
has seen any evidence that may have been in the car, detailed evidence
at the scene like where the shell casings landed or even where the cop
was in reference to the dead guy. They also have not presented the
evidence from the clothing that may have GSR or be an indication of
where the thug;'s arms where when he was shot.

My bet is you folks are going to like how all of that comes out.

As I said, using Missouri law, the cop could have legally shot him in
the back. He was a fleeing felon, who used violence against the
officer. Bang Bang you are dead

Fleeing felon? Does getting in a wrestling match with a cop through
his cruiser window make Michael Brown a felon?

On 8/26/2014 11:43 AM, jps wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 17:44:14 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:01:54 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:26:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, August 23, 2014 5:05:54 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:

In this case, because he disengaged with the young man before firing
the kills shots, it could be considered premeditated and in the first
degree.

You're a hoot. You have no idea what the circumstances are, if any disengagement occurred, or if the officer felt his life was in danger as the thug charged him again after nearly beating the officer to death.

Whitey cop bad, right?

The "beat5ing" has been overstated a bit, the cop was punched or
slapped in the face but you hit a cop, you are going to be in trouble,
no matter what.
If this thug repeated the same thing we saw on the store video (turn
and try to threaten with his bulk) , he was going to be shot .. In
Missouri, New York or even yuppie assed San Francisco.

CNN seems to have some witnesses who back up the cop version of the
story but they are too afraid to go on camera.
I notice the news anchors are softening on their predictions of a
prosecution.
In real life, charging a cop for killing a felon in the process of an
arrest is pretty rare

For the folks who think otherwise, do not underestimate the power of
the police unions.

Hahahaha!!! "CNN seems to have..." What a joke.

CNN seemed to have discovered the missing Malaysian plane at least a
couple of dozen times while they were busy selling advertising.

Do you prefer Fox?

The reality of this incident has not even been presented yet but you
have already made up your mind. Nobody has seen the original autopsy
when GSR would have been present and a fresh body was examined. Nobody
has seen any evidence that may have been in the car, detailed evidence
at the scene like where the shell casings landed or even where the cop
was in reference to the dead guy. They also have not presented the
evidence from the clothing that may have GSR or be an indication of
where the thug;'s arms where when he was shot.

My bet is you folks are going to like how all of that comes out.

As I said, using Missouri law, the cop could have legally shot him in
the back. He was a fleeing felon, who used violence against the
officer. Bang Bang you are dead

Fleeing felon? Does getting in a wrestling match with a cop through
his cruiser window make Michael Brown a felon?


The reality of this incident has not even been presented yet but you
have already made up your mind that the cop is a murderer. You should
think a little before you shoot your mouth off, Mr. JPS.

jps wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 17:44:14 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:01:54 -0700, jps wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 21:26:36 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, August 23, 2014 5:05:54 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:

In this case, because he disengaged with the young man before firing
the kills shots, it could be considered premeditated and in the first
degree.

You're a hoot. You have no idea what the circumstances are, if any
disengagement occurred, or if the officer felt his life was in danger
as the thug charged him again after nearly beating the officer to death.

Whitey cop bad, right?

The "beat5ing" has been overstated a bit, the cop was punched or
slapped in the face but you hit a cop, you are going to be in trouble,
no matter what.
If this thug repeated the same thing we saw on the store video (turn
and try to threaten with his bulk) , he was going to be shot .. In
Missouri, New York or even yuppie assed San Francisco.

CNN seems to have some witnesses who back up the cop version of the
story but they are too afraid to go on camera.
I notice the news anchors are softening on their predictions of a
prosecution.
In real life, charging a cop for killing a felon in the process of an
arrest is pretty rare

For the folks who think otherwise, do not underestimate the power of
the police unions.

Hahahaha!!! "CNN seems to have..." What a joke.

CNN seemed to have discovered the missing Malaysian plane at least a
couple of dozen times while they were busy selling advertising.

Do you prefer Fox?

The reality of this incident has not even been presented yet but you
have already made up your mind. Nobody has seen the original autopsy
when GSR would have been present and a fresh body was examined. Nobody
has seen any evidence that may have been in the car, detailed evidence
at the scene like where the shell casings landed or even where the cop
was in reference to the dead guy. They also have not presented the
evidence from the clothing that may have GSR or be an indication of
where the thug;'s arms where when he was shot.

My bet is you folks are going to like how all of that comes out.

As I said, using Missouri law, the cop could have legally shot him in
the back. He was a fleeing felon, who used violence against the
officer. Bang Bang you are dead

Fleeing felon? Does getting in a wrestling match with a cop through
his cruiser window make Michael Brown a felon?

Yes.

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 10:26:04 -0700, jps wrote:

Witnesses have the cop 20 - 25 feet away. Cops are not given
permission by MO law to fire on a suspect without their lives being
threatened. This was murder.

I don't know where you're getting your information, but it's a bad
source.

===

I don't know where you're getting information either, but it's a bad
source. The LEO called Brown to his car for questioning. Brown
responded by punching the cop in the face and tried to grab his gun. A
shot was fired in the ensuing struggle. Brown then fled on foot and
at some point turned around. Everything beyond that is speculation
and conjecture.