wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Sent an email to the Legend dealer about the transom saver they sold me
a couple years ago.
The black rubber y-Block that protects the outboards lower end was
falling apart and. Want to know what it would cost to replace it.
She took a week to get back to me, so in the meanwhile I've been
thinking of an upgrade to a heavy duty aluminum. Model with the swivel head.
Went to a local marine store to research theirs and we disagreed on the
best way to attach the optional bracket to the trailers rear cross member.
Then the salesman got us outside where he managed to get the wife in his
corner to tag team me on a new Larsen 180S fiberglass bow rider.
Boat is nice but he's talking to $40k all in..minus my trade-in.
The new guy has only been there for 6 weeks but he shows promise as a salesman. ;-)
Anyway...I left with his card and a brochure and that's as far as it will go.

Yup you go to the dealer to buy a transom saver and walk out with a
new boat ... That's how it happens ;-)

We went to the boat show to look at dock boxes and ended up with a
$2600 deck swing.
(actually got a better deal because we bought the floor model)

$40k for an 18' bow rider? Even in Canada, that is robbery, or stupidity.
Look at Campion from BC. Probably less than $20k.

On 8/19/14 12:23 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Sent an email to the Legend dealer about the transom saver they sold me
a couple years ago.
The black rubber y-Block that protects the outboards lower end was
falling apart and. Want to know what it would cost to replace it.
She took a week to get back to me, so in the meanwhile I've been
thinking of an upgrade to a heavy duty aluminum. Model with the swivel head.
Went to a local marine store to research theirs and we disagreed on the
best way to attach the optional bracket to the trailers rear cross member.
Then the salesman got us outside where he managed to get the wife in his
corner to tag team me on a new Larsen 180S fiberglass bow rider.
Boat is nice but he's talking to $40k all in..minus my trade-in.
The new guy has only been there for 6 weeks but he shows promise as a salesman. ;-)
Anyway...I left with his card and a brochure and that's as far as it will go.

Yup you go to the dealer to buy a transom saver and walk out with a
new boat ... That's how it happens ;-)

We went to the boat show to look at dock boxes and ended up with a
$2600 deck swing.
(actually got a better deal because we bought the floor model)

$40k for an 18' bow rider? Even in Canada, that is robbery, or stupidity.
Look at Campion from BC. Probably less than $20k.


I wouldn't consider a small bowrider for anything other than the most
protected waters, and certainly not for a big bay where there usually is
significant chop and wakes from other boats. No one is going to want to
sit up front and get bounced around or wet, and if you are at idle
speeds, the weight of a couple adults up front is going to make the boat
plow and not steer well.

On 8/19/2014 12:51 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/19/14 12:23 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Sent an email to the Legend dealer about the transom saver they sold me
a couple years ago.
The black rubber y-Block that protects the outboards lower end was
falling apart and. Want to know what it would cost to replace it.
She took a week to get back to me, so in the meanwhile I've been
thinking of an upgrade to a heavy duty aluminum. Model with the
swivel head.
Went to a local marine store to research theirs and we disagreed on the
best way to attach the optional bracket to the trailers rear cross
member.
Then the salesman got us outside where he managed to get the wife in
his
corner to tag team me on a new Larsen 180S fiberglass bow rider.
Boat is nice but he's talking to $40k all in..minus my trade-in.
The new guy has only been there for 6 weeks but he shows promise as
a salesman. ;-)
Anyway...I left with his card and a brochure and that's as far as it
will go.

Yup you go to the dealer to buy a transom saver and walk out with a
new boat ... That's how it happens ;-)

We went to the boat show to look at dock boxes and ended up with a
$2600 deck swing.
(actually got a better deal because we bought the floor model)

$40k for an 18' bow rider? Even in Canada, that is robbery, or
stupidity.
Look at Campion from BC. Probably less than $20k.


I wouldn't consider a small bowrider for anything other than the most
protected waters, and certainly not for a big bay where there usually is
significant chop and wakes from other boats. No one is going to want to
sit up front and get bounced around or wet, and if you are at idle
speeds, the weight of a couple adults up front is going to make the boat
plow and not steer well.

Plus, one good "greenie" and you're swamped. I don't think a bowrider
is an ocean boat, period.

On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:02:18 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 8/19/2014 12:51 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/19/14 12:23 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Sent an email to the Legend dealer about the transom saver they sold me
a couple years ago.
The black rubber y-Block that protects the outboards lower end was
falling apart and. Want to know what it would cost to replace it.
She took a week to get back to me, so in the meanwhile I've been
thinking of an upgrade to a heavy duty aluminum. Model with the
swivel head.
Went to a local marine store to research theirs and we disagreed on the
best way to attach the optional bracket to the trailers rear cross
member.
Then the salesman got us outside where he managed to get the wife in
his
corner to tag team me on a new Larsen 180S fiberglass bow rider.
Boat is nice but he's talking to $40k all in..minus my trade-in.
The new guy has only been there for 6 weeks but he shows promise as
a salesman. ;-)
Anyway...I left with his card and a brochure and that's as far as it
will go.

Yup you go to the dealer to buy a transom saver and walk out with a
new boat ... That's how it happens ;-)

We went to the boat show to look at dock boxes and ended up with a
$2600 deck swing.
(actually got a better deal because we bought the floor model)

$40k for an 18' bow rider? Even in Canada, that is robbery, or
stupidity.
Look at Campion from BC. Probably less than $20k.


I wouldn't consider a small bowrider for anything other than the most
protected waters, and certainly not for a big bay where there usually is
significant chop and wakes from other boats. No one is going to want to
sit up front and get bounced around or wet, and if you are at idle
speeds, the weight of a couple adults up front is going to make the boat
plow and not steer well.

Plus, one good "greenie" and you're swamped. I don't think a bowrider
is an ocean boat, period.


I can't imagine anyone considering a bowrider, period. A nicely furnished center console in that
size would seat, comfortably, as many people, and be able to take a wave. I like this one:

http://www.keywestboatsinc.com/boats/show/id/47

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/19/2014 12:51 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/19/14 12:23 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Sent an email to the Legend dealer about the transom saver they sold me
a couple years ago.
The black rubber y-Block that protects the outboards lower end was
falling apart and. Want to know what it would cost to replace it.
She took a week to get back to me, so in the meanwhile I've been
thinking of an upgrade to a heavy duty aluminum. Model with the
swivel head.
Went to a local marine store to research theirs and we disagreed on the
best way to attach the optional bracket to the trailers rear cross
member.
Then the salesman got us outside where he managed to get the wife in
his
corner to tag team me on a new Larsen 180S fiberglass bow rider.
Boat is nice but he's talking to $40k all in..minus my trade-in.
The new guy has only been there for 6 weeks but he shows promise as
a salesman. ;-)
Anyway...I left with his card and a brochure and that's as far as it
will go.

Yup you go to the dealer to buy a transom saver and walk out with a
new boat ... That's how it happens ;-)

We went to the boat show to look at dock boxes and ended up with a
$2600 deck swing.
(actually got a better deal because we bought the floor model)

$40k for an 18' bow rider? Even in Canada, that is robbery, or
stupidity.
Look at Campion from BC. Probably less than $20k.


I wouldn't consider a small bowrider for anything other than the most
protected waters, and certainly not for a big bay where there usually is
significant chop and wakes from other boats. No one is going to want to
sit up front and get bounced around or wet, and if you are at idle
speeds, the weight of a couple adults up front is going to make the boat
plow and not steer well.

Plus, one good "greenie" and you're swamped. I don't think a bowrider
is an ocean boat, period.

They have snap in covers for the bow.

On 8/19/2014 5:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/19/2014 12:51 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/19/14 12:23 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Sent an email to the Legend dealer about the transom saver they sold me
a couple years ago.
The black rubber y-Block that protects the outboards lower end was
falling apart and. Want to know what it would cost to replace it.
She took a week to get back to me, so in the meanwhile I've been
thinking of an upgrade to a heavy duty aluminum. Model with the
swivel head.
Went to a local marine store to research theirs and we disagreed on the
best way to attach the optional bracket to the trailers rear cross
member.
Then the salesman got us outside where he managed to get the wife in
his
corner to tag team me on a new Larsen 180S fiberglass bow rider.
Boat is nice but he's talking to $40k all in..minus my trade-in.
The new guy has only been there for 6 weeks but he shows promise as
a salesman. ;-)
Anyway...I left with his card and a brochure and that's as far as it
will go.

Yup you go to the dealer to buy a transom saver and walk out with a
new boat ... That's how it happens ;-)

We went to the boat show to look at dock boxes and ended up with a
$2600 deck swing.
(actually got a better deal because we bought the floor model)

$40k for an 18' bow rider? Even in Canada, that is robbery, or
stupidity.
Look at Campion from BC. Probably less than $20k.


I wouldn't consider a small bowrider for anything other than the most
protected waters, and certainly not for a big bay where there usually is
significant chop and wakes from other boats. No one is going to want to
sit up front and get bounced around or wet, and if you are at idle
speeds, the weight of a couple adults up front is going to make the boat
plow and not steer well.

Plus, one good "greenie" and you're swamped. I don't think a bowrider
is an ocean boat, period.

They have snap in covers for the bow.


Snap covers don't make a boat rough seaworthy.

Many people have them and like 'em. I agree with Harry and Wayne
though. They are fine for calm, protected waters but not for ocean
boating, IMO. I suppose it depends on your location. Where I am,
Cape Cod Bay isn't exactly "protected". It is directly exposed to ocean
fetch and the seas can go from glass to 2-3 foot chop in a matter of an
hour. All it takes is a thunderstorm, wind shift or weather front to
move in.

A popular day's "run" for the weekend warriors around here is from a
launch area on the South Shore to "P-Town" on the tip of Cape Cod. It's
a run of about 22 miles (one way). On a weekend you can often listen to
people on the radio calling for help who left in the morning in calm
seas but ran into trouble on the way back in the afternoon due to rough
seas.

I decided to do it once in a 16' Boston Whaler Dauntless. Left Scituate
Harbor in rolling, gentle swells. Beautiful day. By the time I got
about 12 miles out (near the "H" buoy for JiminFl's benefit) I turned
around and beat feet back. The gentle swells had become 3' confused seas.

On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 11:51:09 AM UTC-5, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/19/14 12:23 PM, Califbill wrote:

wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Sent an email to the Legend dealer about the transom saver they sold me

a couple years ago.

The black rubber y-Block that protects the outboards lower end was

falling apart and. Want to know what it would cost to replace it.

She took a week to get back to me, so in the meanwhile I've been

thinking of an upgrade to a heavy duty aluminum. Model with the swivel head.

Went to a local marine store to research theirs and we disagreed on the

best way to attach the optional bracket to the trailers rear cross member.

Then the salesman got us outside where he managed to get the wife in his

corner to tag team me on a new Larsen 180S fiberglass bow rider.

Boat is nice but he's talking to $40k all in..minus my trade-in.

The new guy has only been there for 6 weeks but he shows promise as a salesman. ;-)

Anyway...I left with his card and a brochure and that's as far as it will go.



Yup you go to the dealer to buy a transom saver and walk out with a

new boat ... That's how it happens ;-)



We went to the boat show to look at dock boxes and ended up with a

$2600 deck swing.

(actually got a better deal because we bought the floor model)



$40k for an 18' bow rider? Even in Canada, that is robbery, or stupidity.

Look at Campion from BC. Probably less than $20k.





I wouldn't consider a small bowrider for anything other than the most

protected waters, and certainly not for a big bay where there usually is

significant chop and wakes from other boats. No one is going to want to

sit up front and get bounced around or wet, and if you are at idle

speeds, the weight of a couple adults up front is going to make the boat

plow and not steer well.

Krausebag, you silly old fool. Do you think anyone here gives a rat's fanny about your opinion.

On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:23:33 PM UTC-4, Califbill wrote:

$40k for an 18' bow rider? Even in Canada, that is robbery, or stupidity.

Look at Campion from BC. Probably less than $20k.

donnie IS uneducated....it's a known fact.

BrilloHead spittles...


" donnie IS uneducated....it's a known fact. .... "


This from a chump who couldn't keep a job as a truck driver.
SNERK!

On 8/19/14 4:03 PM, True North wrote:
BrilloHead spittles...


" donnie IS uneducated....it's a known fact. ...."


This from a chump who couldn't keep a job as a truck driver.
SNERK!



The two Scotties working together couldn't get and keep a job driving a
skateboard.