On 8/19/2014 5:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/19/2014 12:51 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/19/14 12:23 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Sent an email to the Legend dealer about the transom saver they sold me
a couple years ago.
The black rubber y-Block that protects the outboards lower end was
falling apart and. Want to know what it would cost to replace it.
She took a week to get back to me, so in the meanwhile I've been
thinking of an upgrade to a heavy duty aluminum. Model with the
swivel head.
Went to a local marine store to research theirs and we disagreed on the
best way to attach the optional bracket to the trailers rear cross
member.
Then the salesman got us outside where he managed to get the wife in
his
corner to tag team me on a new Larsen 180S fiberglass bow rider.
Boat is nice but he's talking to $40k all in..minus my trade-in.
The new guy has only been there for 6 weeks but he shows promise as
a salesman. ;-)
Anyway...I left with his card and a brochure and that's as far as it
will go.

Yup you go to the dealer to buy a transom saver and walk out with a
new boat ... That's how it happens ;-)

We went to the boat show to look at dock boxes and ended up with a
$2600 deck swing.
(actually got a better deal because we bought the floor model)

$40k for an 18' bow rider? Even in Canada, that is robbery, or
stupidity.
Look at Campion from BC. Probably less than $20k.


I wouldn't consider a small bowrider for anything other than the most
protected waters, and certainly not for a big bay where there usually is
significant chop and wakes from other boats. No one is going to want to
sit up front and get bounced around or wet, and if you are at idle
speeds, the weight of a couple adults up front is going to make the boat
plow and not steer well.

Plus, one good "greenie" and you're swamped. I don't think a bowrider
is an ocean boat, period.

They have snap in covers for the bow.


Snap covers don't make a boat rough seaworthy.

Many people have them and like 'em. I agree with Harry and Wayne
though. They are fine for calm, protected waters but not for ocean
boating, IMO. I suppose it depends on your location. Where I am,
Cape Cod Bay isn't exactly "protected". It is directly exposed to ocean
fetch and the seas can go from glass to 2-3 foot chop in a matter of an
hour. All it takes is a thunderstorm, wind shift or weather front to
move in.

A popular day's "run" for the weekend warriors around here is from a
launch area on the South Shore to "P-Town" on the tip of Cape Cod. It's
a run of about 22 miles (one way). On a weekend you can often listen to
people on the radio calling for help who left in the morning in calm
seas but ran into trouble on the way back in the afternoon due to rough
seas.

I decided to do it once in a 16' Boston Whaler Dauntless. Left Scituate
Harbor in rolling, gentle swells. Beautiful day. By the time I got
about 12 miles out (near the "H" buoy for JiminFl's benefit) I turned
around and beat feet back. The gentle swells had become 3' confused seas.