"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/19/2014 12:51 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/19/14 12:23 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Sent an email to the Legend dealer about the transom saver they sold me
a couple years ago.
The black rubber y-Block that protects the outboards lower end was
falling apart and. Want to know what it would cost to replace it.
She took a week to get back to me, so in the meanwhile I've been
thinking of an upgrade to a heavy duty aluminum. Model with the
swivel head.
Went to a local marine store to research theirs and we disagreed on the
best way to attach the optional bracket to the trailers rear cross
member.
Then the salesman got us outside where he managed to get the wife in
his
corner to tag team me on a new Larsen 180S fiberglass bow rider.
Boat is nice but he's talking to $40k all in..minus my trade-in.
The new guy has only been there for 6 weeks but he shows promise as
a salesman. ;-)
Anyway...I left with his card and a brochure and that's as far as it
will go.

Yup you go to the dealer to buy a transom saver and walk out with a
new boat ... That's how it happens ;-)

We went to the boat show to look at dock boxes and ended up with a
$2600 deck swing.
(actually got a better deal because we bought the floor model)

$40k for an 18' bow rider? Even in Canada, that is robbery, or
stupidity.
Look at Campion from BC. Probably less than $20k.


I wouldn't consider a small bowrider for anything other than the most
protected waters, and certainly not for a big bay where there usually is
significant chop and wakes from other boats. No one is going to want to
sit up front and get bounced around or wet, and if you are at idle
speeds, the weight of a couple adults up front is going to make the boat
plow and not steer well.

Plus, one good "greenie" and you're swamped. I don't think a bowrider
is an ocean boat, period.

They have snap in covers for the bow.

On 8/19/2014 5:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/19/2014 12:51 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 8/19/14 12:23 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

Sent an email to the Legend dealer about the transom saver they sold me
a couple years ago.
The black rubber y-Block that protects the outboards lower end was
falling apart and. Want to know what it would cost to replace it.
She took a week to get back to me, so in the meanwhile I've been
thinking of an upgrade to a heavy duty aluminum. Model with the
swivel head.
Went to a local marine store to research theirs and we disagreed on the
best way to attach the optional bracket to the trailers rear cross
member.
Then the salesman got us outside where he managed to get the wife in
his
corner to tag team me on a new Larsen 180S fiberglass bow rider.
Boat is nice but he's talking to $40k all in..minus my trade-in.
The new guy has only been there for 6 weeks but he shows promise as
a salesman. ;-)
Anyway...I left with his card and a brochure and that's as far as it
will go.

Yup you go to the dealer to buy a transom saver and walk out with a
new boat ... That's how it happens ;-)

We went to the boat show to look at dock boxes and ended up with a
$2600 deck swing.
(actually got a better deal because we bought the floor model)

$40k for an 18' bow rider? Even in Canada, that is robbery, or
stupidity.
Look at Campion from BC. Probably less than $20k.


I wouldn't consider a small bowrider for anything other than the most
protected waters, and certainly not for a big bay where there usually is
significant chop and wakes from other boats. No one is going to want to
sit up front and get bounced around or wet, and if you are at idle
speeds, the weight of a couple adults up front is going to make the boat
plow and not steer well.

Plus, one good "greenie" and you're swamped. I don't think a bowrider
is an ocean boat, period.

They have snap in covers for the bow.


Snap covers don't make a boat rough seaworthy.

Many people have them and like 'em. I agree with Harry and Wayne
though. They are fine for calm, protected waters but not for ocean
boating, IMO. I suppose it depends on your location. Where I am,
Cape Cod Bay isn't exactly "protected". It is directly exposed to ocean
fetch and the seas can go from glass to 2-3 foot chop in a matter of an
hour. All it takes is a thunderstorm, wind shift or weather front to
move in.

A popular day's "run" for the weekend warriors around here is from a
launch area on the South Shore to "P-Town" on the tip of Cape Cod. It's
a run of about 22 miles (one way). On a weekend you can often listen to
people on the radio calling for help who left in the morning in calm
seas but ran into trouble on the way back in the afternoon due to rough
seas.

I decided to do it once in a 16' Boston Whaler Dauntless. Left Scituate
Harbor in rolling, gentle swells. Beautiful day. By the time I got
about 12 miles out (near the "H" buoy for JiminFl's benefit) I turned
around and beat feet back. The gentle swells had become 3' confused seas.

On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 4:03:54 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:

This from a chump who couldn't keep a job as a truck driver.

SNERK!


Wrong again, stupid. They closed the Terminal, and pulled ALL the jobs back to the US. I already told you that, but seeing as you ARE a dumb****, I expected you to forget that part. You proved me correct again......

YOU ARE A DUMBASS. EVERYONE HERE KNOWS IT, TOO. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DumboDickson
" Wrong again, Mr Don. They closed the Terminal, and pulled ALL the jobs back to the US..."

Really....how long ago was that?
Is that your sleazy excuse for not working since?
What a deadbeat!

On 8/20/2014 5:45 AM, True North wrote:
DumboDickson
" Wrong again, Mr Don. They closed the Terminal, and pulled ALL the jobs back to the US..."

Really....how long ago was that?
Is that your sleazy excuse for not working since?
What a deadbeat!


Any driver with a clean record can make 100k if he's willing to go where
the work is.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

On 8/20/2014 10:50 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 8/20/2014 5:45 AM, True North wrote:
DumboDickson
" Wrong again, Mr Don. They closed the Terminal, and pulled ALL the
jobs back to the US..."

Really....how long ago was that?
Is that your sleazy excuse for not working since?
What a deadbeat!


Any driver with a clean record can make 100k if he's willing to go where
the work is.


Alaska? Iraq??? Do tell...

On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 7:45:45 AM UTC-4, True North wrote:

Really....how long ago was that?

Is that your sleazy excuse for not working since?

What a deadbeat!

Open Heart Surgery, and Vertigo. Any more stupid, uneducated questions, Mop Boy?

Don't worry, Im still able to erase an asshole like you.

Your time is limited. I'd get Boating while you still are alive.

On 8/20/2014 9:35 AM, KC wrote:
On 8/20/2014 10:50 AM, H*a*r*r*o*l*d wrote:
On 8/20/2014 5:45 AM, True North wrote:
DumboDickson
" Wrong again, Mr Don. They closed the Terminal, and pulled ALL the
jobs back to the US..."

Really....how long ago was that?
Is that your sleazy excuse for not working since?
What a deadbeat!


Any driver with a clean record can make 100k if he's willing to go where
the work is.


Alaska? Iraq??? Do tell...

North Dakota. Don't get excited. A CDL is required.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson

On Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:42:40 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Sent an email to the Legend dealer about the transom saver they sold me a couple years ago.

The black rubber y-Block that protects the outboards lower end was falling apart and. Want to know what it would cost to replace it.

She took a week to get back to me, so in the meanwhile I've been thinking of an upgrade to a heavy duty aluminum. Model with the swivel head.

Went to a local marine store to research theirs and we disagreed on the best way to attach the optional bracket to the trailers rear cross member.

Then the salesman got us outside where he managed to get the wife in his corner to tag team me on a new Larsen 180S fiberglass bow rider.

Boat is nice but he's talking to $40k all in..minus my trade-in.

The new guy has only been there for 6 weeks but he shows promise as a salesman. ;-)

Anyway...I left with his card and a brochure and that's as far as it will go.



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Frankly I don't think you'd be happy with it, and you could buy a lot

more boat for that kind of money if you shop around a bit. Our

runabout back home is a Searay 270 Sundeck which is essentially an

overgrown bow rider (26 1/2 ft). It is by no means sea worthy in

anything more that a 2 foot chop and it is easy to take a wave over

the bow and into the boat even in those conditions. We got ours in

like new condition with only 115 hours on the engine for $25K. It

was a good deal because our neighbor was moving away from the water

and had to sell quickly but there are other opportunities if you keep

looking. If I were you I'd want an offshore center console over 20

ft with some wind and spray protection, or a cuddy cabin runabout in

the 24 ft range.

The Larsen 180S would be a bit better than my boat but not enough to justify another $25k. I doubt I would get much more than $15K on a trade in. the salesman threw out $12K... probably just to get me on the hook.
In this area a 20' or bigger boat would be ideal for cruising the coast but I'd have to join a yacht club and keep the boat there.
In order to tow I'd have to buy an overblown over sized HD diesel pickup.. like Johnny's.

On 8/20/2014 10:24 AM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17:42:40 UTC-3, Wayne. B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:10:31 -0700 (PDT), True North

wrote:



Sent an email to the Legend dealer about the transom saver they sold me a couple years ago.

The black rubber y-Block that protects the outboards lower end was falling apart and. Want to know what it would cost to replace it.

She took a week to get back to me, so in the meanwhile I've been thinking of an upgrade to a heavy duty aluminum. Model with the swivel head.

Went to a local marine store to research theirs and we disagreed on the best way to attach the optional bracket to the trailers rear cross member.

Then the salesman got us outside where he managed to get the wife in his corner to tag team me on a new Larsen 180S fiberglass bow rider.

Boat is nice but he's talking to $40k all in..minus my trade-in.

The new guy has only been there for 6 weeks but he shows promise as a salesman. ;-)

Anyway...I left with his card and a brochure and that's as far as it will go.



===



Frankly I don't think you'd be happy with it, and you could buy a lot

more boat for that kind of money if you shop around a bit. Our

runabout back home is a Searay 270 Sundeck which is essentially an

overgrown bow rider (26 1/2 ft). It is by no means sea worthy in

anything more that a 2 foot chop and it is easy to take a wave over

the bow and into the boat even in those conditions. We got ours in

like new condition with only 115 hours on the engine for $25K. It

was a good deal because our neighbor was moving away from the water

and had to sell quickly but there are other opportunities if you keep

looking. If I were you I'd want an offshore center console over 20

ft with some wind and spray protection, or a cuddy cabin runabout in

the 24 ft range.

The Larsen 180S would be a bit better than my boat but not enough to justify another $25k. I doubt I would get much more than $15K on a trade in. the salesman threw out $12K... probably just to get me on the hook.
In this area a 20' or bigger boat would be ideal for cruising the coast but I'd have to join a yacht club and keep the boat there.
In order to tow I'd have to buy an overblown over sized HD diesel pickup.. like Johnny's.


Aw come on. Spend some more of that inheritance and live a little. Make
your mom proud.
By the way, your more recent photos show that time hasn't been kind to you.

--
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the
government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of
taking care of them".
Thomas Jefferson