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Mr. Luddite May 11th 14 11:02 PM

WTF Happened To My 2nd?
 
On 5/11/2014 5:50 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/11/14, 5:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/11/2014 5:36 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/11/14, 4:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/11/2014 10:43 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Her "excuse":

"I say a lot of things -- millions of words a day -- so if I
misspoke,
that was just a misstatement," she said.

Sorta like, "What difference does it make".

All politicians are liars, or at minimum exaggerators.
That goes for Republicans too.
Just don't have a target yet.
It'll be fun when the target appears.
I expect it to be a real big target.



Even her "millions of words a day" is a far fetched exaggeration of
the
truth.

Several studies indicate that the average woman speaks about 20,000
words in a 24 hour period. (Men typically speak about 7,000).

Assuming that Hillary is not "average", let's give her the benefit of
the doubt and double that. No, lets' triple that. Hell, lets
make it
*10* times more words a day than the average woman. Still not even
close to a "million words a day".




I can't believe you fellas are judging Hillary on her mistatements,
exaggerations, b.s., whatever.

She's a politician.

And whatever she says pales in comparison to the crazy nonsense spewed
by the 2016 GOP presidential wannabes.

Most of those guys are plain bat**** crazy.



So outright lying and making up stories to garner votes is ok with you
if you're a politician?

Phew. Amazing the standards by which some are willing to live by.



It's the stock in trade of the GOP. As in, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.
Just ask Darryl Issa, who apparently got away with arson.



Darryl Issa is unlikely to be a candidate for POTUS. If he were, I'd
be as critical of him if there's proof he "got away with anything".

We aren't talking about Issa, Biden, Paul or Bush. We are talking
about Hillary Clinton who, IMO, is a lying opportunist who doesn't come
close to meeting any reasonable character standards to be considered for
POTUS. Sorry Harry but none of the left wing spin or touch up paint is
going to change my mind or the minds of many others.



Wayne.B May 11th 14 11:09 PM

WTF Happened To My 2nd?
 
On Sat, 10 May 2014 12:43:25 -0400, H*a*r*r*o*l*d
wrote:

I want a smart gun. You still haven't caught on?



Wouldn't it be better to insist on smart owners?

He thinks technology will make him smart. Do you recognize the
Loogieistic behavior yet?


===

He certainly does chase his own tail/tale a lot, amusing for a few
minutes, after that not so much.

F*O*A*D May 11th 14 11:14 PM

WTF Happened To My 2nd?
 
On 5/11/14, 5:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/11/2014 5:51 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/11/14, 5:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 5/11/2014 10:43 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Her "excuse":

"I say a lot of things -- millions of words a day -- so if I
misspoke,
that was just a misstatement," she said.

Sorta like, "What difference does it make".

All politicians are liars, or at minimum exaggerators.
That goes for Republicans too.
Just don't have a target yet.
It'll be fun when the target appears.
I expect it to be a real big target.



Even her "millions of words a day" is a far fetched exaggeration of
the
truth.

Several studies indicate that the average woman speaks about 20,000
words in a 24 hour period. (Men typically speak about 7,000).

Assuming that Hillary is not "average", let's give her the benefit of
the doubt and double that. No, lets' triple that. Hell, lets
make it
*10* times more words a day than the average woman. Still not even
close to a "million words a day".


What in the name of hell are you talking about?
You must really be afraid of her to bring up such nonsense.
Oh well.


There's no doubt the Republicans are terrified of Mrs. Clinton.



I doubt "terrified" is an accurate term, but it sure invokes some spin
to the cycle.




I think terrified is appropriate. If the GOPers nominates one of their
crazies, he will lose. Demographic changes are working against the GOP,
and that will continue. Meanwhile, the party is pretty much locked into
the Tea Party/Ultraconservative stance it has been developing since 2008.

The GOPers are perceived, and pretty much correctly, as:

anti womens' rights
anti raising the minimum wage
anti science
anti immigration reform
anti health care coverage for the less wealthy
anti helping out students with huge student loan balances
anti spending heavily on rebuilding superstructure
anti worker
anti union
anti bank reform
anti separation of church and state
anti meaningful firearms reform
anti black
anti latino
anti a role for the federal government
anti environment

And a few more.

So, what groups are going to vote for a crazed GOP nominee?

Rich white folks
Dumb rednecks
racists
men who dislike women


I don't know who will rescue the GOP from itself. The nomination won't
go to Jon Huntsman.





F*O*A*D May 11th 14 11:15 PM

WTF Happened To My 2nd?
 
On 5/11/14, 6:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/11/2014 5:50 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/11/14, 5:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/11/2014 5:36 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/11/14, 4:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/11/2014 10:43 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Her "excuse":

"I say a lot of things -- millions of words a day -- so if I
misspoke,
that was just a misstatement," she said.

Sorta like, "What difference does it make".

All politicians are liars, or at minimum exaggerators.
That goes for Republicans too.
Just don't have a target yet.
It'll be fun when the target appears.
I expect it to be a real big target.



Even her "millions of words a day" is a far fetched exaggeration of
the
truth.

Several studies indicate that the average woman speaks about 20,000
words in a 24 hour period. (Men typically speak about 7,000).

Assuming that Hillary is not "average", let's give her the benefit of
the doubt and double that. No, lets' triple that. Hell, lets
make it
*10* times more words a day than the average woman. Still not even
close to a "million words a day".




I can't believe you fellas are judging Hillary on her mistatements,
exaggerations, b.s., whatever.

She's a politician.

And whatever she says pales in comparison to the crazy nonsense spewed
by the 2016 GOP presidential wannabes.

Most of those guys are plain bat**** crazy.


So outright lying and making up stories to garner votes is ok with you
if you're a politician?

Phew. Amazing the standards by which some are willing to live by.



It's the stock in trade of the GOP. As in, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.
Just ask Darryl Issa, who apparently got away with arson.



Darryl Issa is unlikely to be a candidate for POTUS. If he were, I'd
be as critical of him if there's proof he "got away with anything".

We aren't talking about Issa, Biden, Paul or Bush. We are talking
about Hillary Clinton who, IMO, is a lying opportunist who doesn't come
close to meeting any reasonable character standards to be considered for
POTUS. Sorry Harry but none of the left wing spin or touch up paint is
going to change my mind or the minds of many others.




If you believe that, then there also is no GOPer who will meet your
standard. So. You'll be sitting out the election?



Boating All Out May 11th 14 11:18 PM

WTF Happened To My 2nd?
 
In article ,
says...


Darryl Issa is unlikely to be a candidate for POTUS. If he were, I'd
be as critical of him if there's proof he "got away with anything".

We aren't talking about Issa, Biden, Paul or Bush. We are talking
about Hillary Clinton who, IMO, is a lying opportunist who doesn't come
close to meeting any reasonable character standards to be considered for
POTUS. Sorry Harry but none of the left wing spin or touch up paint is
going to change my mind or the minds of many others.


You aren't going to find a Republican who's any less an "lying
opportunist." Name one so I can point that out to you.
There's a base number of people who will never vote for Hillary.
They are called "Republicans."
That would be you.
BFD.
Nothing you say about "millions of words" or that you "don't like the
way she does hair" will mean anything to those who will vote for her.
Give me a break.
You're either trolling or watching Fox News.
Benghazi to you.



Mr. Luddite May 11th 14 11:22 PM

WTF Happened To My 2nd?
 
On 5/11/2014 6:14 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/11/14, 5:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/11/2014 5:51 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/11/14, 5:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 5/11/2014 10:43 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Her "excuse":

"I say a lot of things -- millions of words a day -- so if I
misspoke,
that was just a misstatement," she said.

Sorta like, "What difference does it make".

All politicians are liars, or at minimum exaggerators.
That goes for Republicans too.
Just don't have a target yet.
It'll be fun when the target appears.
I expect it to be a real big target.



Even her "millions of words a day" is a far fetched exaggeration of
the
truth.

Several studies indicate that the average woman speaks about 20,000
words in a 24 hour period. (Men typically speak about 7,000).

Assuming that Hillary is not "average", let's give her the benefit of
the doubt and double that. No, lets' triple that. Hell, lets
make it
*10* times more words a day than the average woman. Still not even
close to a "million words a day".


What in the name of hell are you talking about?
You must really be afraid of her to bring up such nonsense.
Oh well.


There's no doubt the Republicans are terrified of Mrs. Clinton.



I doubt "terrified" is an accurate term, but it sure invokes some spin
to the cycle.




I think terrified is appropriate. If the GOPers nominates one of their
crazies, he will lose. Demographic changes are working against the GOP,
and that will continue. Meanwhile, the party is pretty much locked into
the Tea Party/Ultraconservative stance it has been developing since 2008.

The GOPers are perceived, and pretty much correctly, as:

anti womens' rights
anti raising the minimum wage
anti science
anti immigration reform
anti health care coverage for the less wealthy
anti helping out students with huge student loan balances
anti spending heavily on rebuilding superstructure
anti worker
anti union
anti bank reform
anti separation of church and state
anti meaningful firearms reform
anti black
anti latino
anti a role for the federal government
anti environment

And a few more.

So, what groups are going to vote for a crazed GOP nominee?

Rich white folks
Dumb rednecks
racists
men who dislike women


I don't know who will rescue the GOP from itself. The nomination won't
go to Jon Huntsman.





We were talking about the moral competency of Hillary Clinton to serve
as POTUS. As usual, you take advantage of that discussion to start
spewing your typical anti-GOP political spin BS.

As the assumed nominee Hillary backers are promoting her as if she's the
second coming of FDR or JFK but with the added component as the first
woman to break the presidential glass ceiling.

But what exactly does Hillary bring to the table? Lots of talk. Many
lies. Dems don't like to talk about it but her years as Sec. of State
were not exactly productive nor was her performance extraordinary in any
way. I get a big kick out of the spinsters who love to call her "one
of the best" Sec. of State in recent history. Give me a break.
What exactly did she accomplish? Nada. Zip. In fact, she may have
been asleep at the wheel, causing more lying and cover ups necessary.

Nope. You can have her.



Mr. Luddite May 11th 14 11:25 PM

WTF Happened To My 2nd?
 
On 5/11/2014 6:15 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/11/14, 6:02 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/11/2014 5:50 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/11/14, 5:41 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/11/2014 5:36 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/11/14, 4:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/11/2014 10:43 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Her "excuse":

"I say a lot of things -- millions of words a day -- so if I
misspoke,
that was just a misstatement," she said.

Sorta like, "What difference does it make".

All politicians are liars, or at minimum exaggerators.
That goes for Republicans too.
Just don't have a target yet.
It'll be fun when the target appears.
I expect it to be a real big target.



Even her "millions of words a day" is a far fetched exaggeration of
the
truth.

Several studies indicate that the average woman speaks about 20,000
words in a 24 hour period. (Men typically speak about 7,000).

Assuming that Hillary is not "average", let's give her the
benefit of
the doubt and double that. No, lets' triple that. Hell, lets
make it
*10* times more words a day than the average woman. Still not even
close to a "million words a day".




I can't believe you fellas are judging Hillary on her mistatements,
exaggerations, b.s., whatever.

She's a politician.

And whatever she says pales in comparison to the crazy nonsense spewed
by the 2016 GOP presidential wannabes.

Most of those guys are plain bat**** crazy.


So outright lying and making up stories to garner votes is ok with you
if you're a politician?

Phew. Amazing the standards by which some are willing to live by.



It's the stock in trade of the GOP. As in, Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi.
Just ask Darryl Issa, who apparently got away with arson.



Darryl Issa is unlikely to be a candidate for POTUS. If he were, I'd
be as critical of him if there's proof he "got away with anything".

We aren't talking about Issa, Biden, Paul or Bush. We are talking
about Hillary Clinton who, IMO, is a lying opportunist who doesn't come
close to meeting any reasonable character standards to be considered for
POTUS. Sorry Harry but none of the left wing spin or touch up paint is
going to change my mind or the minds of many others.




If you believe that, then there also is no GOPer who will meet your
standard. So. You'll be sitting out the election?




It's a long time to 2016. Let's see who emerges for consideration.
If it's Clinton versus someone like Ted Cruz, yup I'll probably pass
altogether.





Mr. Luddite May 11th 14 11:27 PM

WTF Happened To My 2nd?
 
On 5/11/2014 6:18 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Darryl Issa is unlikely to be a candidate for POTUS. If he were, I'd
be as critical of him if there's proof he "got away with anything".

We aren't talking about Issa, Biden, Paul or Bush. We are talking
about Hillary Clinton who, IMO, is a lying opportunist who doesn't come
close to meeting any reasonable character standards to be considered for
POTUS. Sorry Harry but none of the left wing spin or touch up paint is
going to change my mind or the minds of many others.


You aren't going to find a Republican who's any less an "lying
opportunist." Name one so I can point that out to you.
There's a base number of people who will never vote for Hillary.
They are called "Republicans."
That would be you.
BFD.
Nothing you say about "millions of words" or that you "don't like the
way she does hair" will mean anything to those who will vote for her.
Give me a break.
You're either trolling or watching Fox News.
Benghazi to you.




If you can't follow the specifics of a conversation, please shut the
heck up.

I don't justify Clinton's lies because a Republican has also lied.
That's just stupid.



F*O*A*D May 11th 14 11:33 PM

WTF Happened To My 2nd?
 
On 5/11/14, 6:18 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Darryl Issa is unlikely to be a candidate for POTUS. If he were, I'd
be as critical of him if there's proof he "got away with anything".

We aren't talking about Issa, Biden, Paul or Bush. We are talking
about Hillary Clinton who, IMO, is a lying opportunist who doesn't come
close to meeting any reasonable character standards to be considered for
POTUS. Sorry Harry but none of the left wing spin or touch up paint is
going to change my mind or the minds of many others.


You aren't going to find a Republican who's any less an "lying
opportunist." Name one so I can point that out to you.
There's a base number of people who will never vote for Hillary.
They are called "Republicans."
That would be you.
BFD.
Nothing you say about "millions of words" or that you "don't like the
way she does hair" will mean anything to those who will vote for her.
Give me a break.
You're either trolling or watching Fox News.
Benghazi to you.



It's disingenuous to call out Hillary for dishonesty when you voted for
Bush, Cheney, and indirectly Rice and Rumsfeld, the four political liars
of the apocalypse.

Mr. Luddite May 11th 14 11:44 PM

WTF Happened To My 2nd?
 
On 5/11/2014 6:33 PM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 5/11/14, 6:18 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


Darryl Issa is unlikely to be a candidate for POTUS. If he were, I'd
be as critical of him if there's proof he "got away with anything".

We aren't talking about Issa, Biden, Paul or Bush. We are talking
about Hillary Clinton who, IMO, is a lying opportunist who doesn't come
close to meeting any reasonable character standards to be considered for
POTUS. Sorry Harry but none of the left wing spin or touch up paint is
going to change my mind or the minds of many others.


You aren't going to find a Republican who's any less an "lying
opportunist." Name one so I can point that out to you.
There's a base number of people who will never vote for Hillary.
They are called "Republicans."
That would be you.
BFD.
Nothing you say about "millions of words" or that you "don't like the
way she does hair" will mean anything to those who will vote for her.
Give me a break.
You're either trolling or watching Fox News.
Benghazi to you.



It's disingenuous to call out Hillary for dishonesty when you voted for
Bush, Cheney, and indirectly Rice and Rumsfeld, the four political liars
of the apocalypse.



You can't help yourself. Nothing you say makes Hillary any *more* honest.

How can anyone knowingly support and vote for a person who has on
several occasions outright lied and/or seriously exaggerated his/her
qualifications and experiences in an attempt to become the POTUS?

It's beyond me.




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