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Carver boats - a big mistake?
On 3/28/2014 8:52 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:01:15 PM UTC-7, wrote: I know this post is old but I came across it.So some one else will...DON'T LET THESE GOOFS SCARE YOU OFF FROM PURCHASING A BAYLINER OR CARVER...I WILL POST ONE POINT THAT THESE DUMB ASS BAYLINER BASHERS WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.A BAYLINER MY IS ONE OF THE BEST YACHTS MADE WITH HULSS THICKER THAN YOUR FINGER.AND THEIR MOST POPULAR DESIGN WAS SLOLEN BY HATTARAS AND STILL USED TO THIS DAY FROM THE 4788 PILOTHOUSE...HAVE A NICE DAY AND ENJOY YOUR BAYLINERS AND CARVERS..GREAT BOATS FOR THE USED MARKET MONEY!!!!...NOT ONLY RICH ASS HOLE DEMOCRAPS CAN OWN A BOAT YOU BLUE COLLAR SMART PEOPLE CAN TOO... Cmon man. Don't hold back. Tell us how you really think! ?;^ ) Did you notice the date of the post this guy was responding to? "Saturday, March 18, 2000" Must have a very slow computer. |
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Carver boats - a big mistake?
On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 08:57:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 3/28/2014 8:52 AM, Tim wrote: On Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:01:15 PM UTC-7, wrote: I know this post is old but I came across it.So some one else will...DON'T LET THESE GOOFS SCARE YOU OFF FROM PURCHASING A BAYLINER OR CARVER...I WILL POST ONE POINT THAT THESE DUMB ASS BAYLINER BASHERS WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.A BAYLINER MY IS ONE OF THE BEST YACHTS MADE WITH HULSS THICKER THAN YOUR FINGER.AND THEIR MOST POPULAR DESIGN WAS SLOLEN BY HATTARAS AND STILL USED TO THIS DAY FROM THE 4788 PILOTHOUSE...HAVE A NICE DAY AND ENJOY YOUR BAYLINERS AND CARVERS..GREAT BOATS FOR THE USED MARKET MONEY!!!!...NOT ONLY RICH ASS HOLE DEMOCRAPS CAN OWN A BOAT YOU BLUE COLLAR SMART PEOPLE CAN TOO... Cmon man. Don't hold back. Tell us how you really think! ?;^ ) Did you notice the date of the post this guy was responding to? "Saturday, March 18, 2000" Must have a very slow computer. And I think the boat being reviewed was a 1994 Carver! http://www.yachtsurvey.com/boatreviews/Carver370.htm "The boat that put Carver over the threshold for us is this 1994 model 370 that experienced massive bottom laminate failure." Must still be using string land lines. |
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On 3/28/2014 10:20 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Fri, 28 Mar 2014 08:57:24 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/28/2014 8:52 AM, Tim wrote: On Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:01:15 PM UTC-7, wrote: I know this post is old but I came across it.So some one else will...DON'T LET THESE GOOFS SCARE YOU OFF FROM PURCHASING A BAYLINER OR CARVER...I WILL POST ONE POINT THAT THESE DUMB ASS BAYLINER BASHERS WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.A BAYLINER MY IS ONE OF THE BEST YACHTS MADE WITH HULSS THICKER THAN YOUR FINGER.AND THEIR MOST POPULAR DESIGN WAS SLOLEN BY HATTARAS AND STILL USED TO THIS DAY FROM THE 4788 PILOTHOUSE...HAVE A NICE DAY AND ENJOY YOUR BAYLINERS AND CARVERS..GREAT BOATS FOR THE USED MARKET MONEY!!!!...NOT ONLY RICH ASS HOLE DEMOCRAPS CAN OWN A BOAT YOU BLUE COLLAR SMART PEOPLE CAN TOO... Cmon man. Don't hold back. Tell us how you really think! ?;^ ) Did you notice the date of the post this guy was responding to? "Saturday, March 18, 2000" Must have a very slow computer. And I think the boat being reviewed was a 1994 Carver! http://www.yachtsurvey.com/boatreviews/Carver370.htm "The boat that put Carver over the threshold for us is this 1994 model 370 that experienced massive bottom laminate failure." Must still be using string land lines. Back in 2000 when I was shopping for my first larger boat a local dealer was really pushing a new Carver on me and making me offers "I couldn't refuse" (according to him). It was nicely done inside but was one of those high backed cockpit type that you have to climb up a ladder to board. I passed, despite his best efforts. That's when I ended up buying the Navigator. Much better built boat, huge stringers compared to the Carver. You could tell just by looking at the construction the Navigator was a well designed and well built boat. Jules Marshall (the designer) backed off on the bling and focused on structure. When the bow thruster was installed I saved a piece of the hull that they cut out. The hull of the Navigator was solid fiberglass that was 1-1/4" thick. I mounted a piece on a framed display board and had it hanging in the salon. |
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3/28/14Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - Back in 2000 when I was shopping for my first larger boat ....You could tell just by looking at the construction the Navigator was a well designed and well built boat. Jules Marshall (the designer) backed off on the bling and focused on structure. When the bow thruster was installed I saved a piece of the hull that they cut out. The hull of the Navigator was solid fiberglass that was 1-1/4" thick. I mounted a piece on a framed display board and had it hanging in the salon. .........,, The hull was only 1-1/4” thick? I figured it’d be a lot thicker than that. Like it should have been 2-3” |
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On 6/3/2018 8:02 AM, Tim wrote:
3/28/14Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - Back in 2000 when I was shopping for my first larger boat ....You could tell just by looking at the construction the Navigator was a well designed and well built boat. Jules Marshall (the designer) backed off on the bling and focused on structure. When the bow thruster was installed I saved a piece of the hull that they cut out. The hull of the Navigator was solid fiberglass that was 1-1/4" thick. I mounted a piece on a framed display board and had it hanging in the salon. ........,, The hull was only 1-1/4” thick? I figured it’d be a lot thicker than that. Like it should have been 2-3” Where the heck are these posts coming from? They are ancient. But, 1-1/4" thick solid fiberglass is pretty thick for a boat hull. |
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On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 08:54:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 6/3/2018 8:02 AM, Tim wrote: 3/28/14Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - Back in 2000 when I was shopping for my first larger boat ....You could tell just by looking at the construction the Navigator was a well designed and well built boat. Jules Marshall (the designer) backed off on the bling and focused on structure. When the bow thruster was installed I saved a piece of the hull that they cut out. The hull of the Navigator was solid fiberglass that was 1-1/4" thick. I mounted a piece on a framed display board and had it hanging in the salon. ........,, The hull was only 1-1/4 thick? I figured itd be a lot thicker than that. Like it should have been 2-3 Where the heck are these posts coming from? They are ancient. But, 1-1/4" thick solid fiberglass is pretty thick for a boat hull. Could be Tim's thinking of a Boston Whaler style hull with a foam core inside much thinner fiberglass. |
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Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text - Where the heck are these posts coming from? They are ancient. But, 1-1/4" thick solid fiberglass is pretty thick for a boat hull. ......... Maybe. But not for a boat if your sized diesel powered Navigator. I’d think... |
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On 6/3/2018 7:49 PM, Tim wrote:
Mr. Luddite - show quoted text - Where the heck are these posts coming from? They are ancient. But, 1-1/4" thick solid fiberglass is pretty thick for a boat hull. ........ Maybe. But not for a boat if your sized diesel powered Navigator. I’d think... I think you would be surprised. I can't remember the details now but I recall investigating that when I saw the thickness of the hull when they cut the holes for the thruster. Most fiberglass hulls on a boat of that approximate size is less than an inch thick. Fiberglass is strong stuff. We are talking solid glass, below the waterline and not upper sections that are cored. The guy that built Navigators (Jules Marshall) believed in "when in doubt, make it stout". He was known for building strong boats at the expense of some of super fancy interiors. I remember the stringers in the engine room were about 15 inches high and 2-2.5 inches thick. I've been in many boats of that approximate size and never saw anything like those in that boat. |
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Carver boats - a big mistake?
On 3/28/14, 8:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/28/2014 8:52 AM, Tim wrote: On Thursday, March 27, 2014 11:01:15 PM UTC-7, wrote: I know this post is old but I came across it.So some one else will...DON'T LET THESE GOOFS SCARE YOU OFF FROM PURCHASING A BAYLINER OR CARVER...I WILL POST ONE POINT THAT THESE DUMB ASS BAYLINER BASHERS WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.A BAYLINER MY IS ONE OF THE BEST YACHTS MADE WITH HULSS THICKER THAN YOUR FINGER.AND THEIR MOST POPULAR DESIGN WAS SLOLEN BY HATTARAS AND STILL USED TO THIS DAY FROM THE 4788 PILOTHOUSE...HAVE A NICE DAY AND ENJOY YOUR BAYLINERS AND CARVERS..GREAT BOATS FOR THE USED MARKET MONEY!!!!...NOT ONLY RICH ASS HOLE DEMOCRAPS CAN OWN A BOAT YOU BLUE COLLAR SMART PEOPLE CAN TOO... Cmon man. Don't hold back. Tell us how you really think! ?;^ ) Did you notice the date of the post this guy was responding to? "Saturday, March 18, 2000" Must have a very slow computer. It's the latest model Greggster 8088, running Windows 1.1, and is connected to a 150 BPS acoustic modem. |
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