I've been on 30A 120V power at the dock for years and would now like to upgrade
to 50A 220V, or what they refer to as 50A 250V at the marina office. I haven't
put a meter on it yet but so far suspect it's closer to 220 than 250. The socket
on the pedestal is like the one pictured he

http://www.catagle.com/68-153/CWD_Ar...uyersGuide.htm

They say it's 3-pole 4-wire. I'm guessing X and Y are the two hot legs and W is
the neutral. Between X or Y and W would be 120V+/- and between X and Y is the
220/250V. Right? How does the ground tie into it though? With only 3 poles do we
run a separate wire from the boat to the pedestal, and if so how do we tie in?

Also can anyone suggest the cheapest place to get a plug like that? So far the
best price I've found is $68.18 he

http://www.ktool.net/servlet/the-581...-63CR65/Detail

Thank you for any help!
David

On 3/17/2014 6:01 PM, david@righthere... wrote:
I've been on 30A 120V power at the dock for years and would now like to upgrade
to 50A 220V, or what they refer to as 50A 250V at the marina office. I haven't
put a meter on it yet but so far suspect it's closer to 220 than 250. The socket
on the pedestal is like the one pictured he

http://www.catagle.com/68-153/CWD_Ar...uyersGuide.htm

They say it's 3-pole 4-wire. I'm guessing X and Y are the two hot legs and W is
the neutral. Between X or Y and W would be 120V+/- and between X and Y is the
220/250V. Right? How does the ground tie into it though? With only 3 poles do we
run a separate wire from the boat to the pedestal, and if so how do we tie in?

Also can anyone suggest the cheapest place to get a plug like that? So far the
best price I've found is $68.18 he

http://www.ktool.net/servlet/the-581...-63CR65/Detail

Thank you for any help!
David


The plug is 10-20 bucks at home depot or lowes, Scottys whatever you
have. It's a dryer plug basically... As to the wiring, I forget but I
have a book I always use when I do the wiring.. It was about 20 bucks at
home depot, I have had it for as long as I have owned a house...

On 3/17/14, 6:19 PM, KC wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:01 PM, david@righthere... wrote:
I've been on 30A 120V power at the dock for years and would now like
to upgrade
to 50A 220V, or what they refer to as 50A 250V at the marina office. I
haven't
put a meter on it yet but so far suspect it's closer to 220 than 250.
The socket
on the pedestal is like the one pictured he

http://www.catagle.com/68-153/CWD_Ar...uyersGuide.htm

They say it's 3-pole 4-wire. I'm guessing X and Y are the two hot legs
and W is
the neutral. Between X or Y and W would be 120V+/- and between X and Y
is the
220/250V. Right? How does the ground tie into it though? With only 3
poles do we
run a separate wire from the boat to the pedestal, and if so how do we
tie in?

Also can anyone suggest the cheapest place to get a plug like that? So
far the
best price I've found is $68.18 he

http://www.ktool.net/servlet/the-581...-63CR65/Detail


Thank you for any help!
David


The plug is 10-20 bucks at home depot or lowes, Scottys whatever you
have. It's a dryer plug basically... As to the wiring, I forget but I
have a book I always use when I do the wiring.. It was about 20 bucks at
home depot, I have had it for as long as I have owned a house...


Yikes! It's NOT a dryer plug, basically or otherwise.

On 3/18/2014 6:26 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:19 PM, KC wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:01 PM, david@righthere... wrote:
I've been on 30A 120V power at the dock for years and would now like
to upgrade
to 50A 220V, or what they refer to as 50A 250V at the marina office. I
haven't
put a meter on it yet but so far suspect it's closer to 220 than 250.
The socket
on the pedestal is like the one pictured he

http://www.catagle.com/68-153/CWD_Ar...uyersGuide.htm

They say it's 3-pole 4-wire. I'm guessing X and Y are the two hot legs
and W is
the neutral. Between X or Y and W would be 120V+/- and between X and Y
is the
220/250V. Right? How does the ground tie into it though? With only 3
poles do we
run a separate wire from the boat to the pedestal, and if so how do we
tie in?

Also can anyone suggest the cheapest place to get a plug like that? So
far the
best price I've found is $68.18 he

http://www.ktool.net/servlet/the-581...-63CR65/Detail



Thank you for any help!
David


The plug is 10-20 bucks at home depot or lowes, Scottys whatever you
have. It's a dryer plug basically... As to the wiring, I forget but I
have a book I always use when I do the wiring.. It was about 20 bucks at
home depot, I have had it for as long as I have owned a house...


Yikes! It's NOT a dryer plug, basically or otherwise.



Not to knock Scotty but I got a big kick out of his statement, "As to
the wiring, I forget but I have a book I always use when I do the wiring".

I think Scott should limit his wiring to 12 volt devices. Whoops. I
take that back. My oldest grandson recently got his first car and
(like all teenagers) was installing a sound system that included a
massive bass speaker cabinet and a dedicated, 1200 watt amplifier to
drive it. He was wiring the power to the amp with some small gauge
"hook up" wire that he bought. I explained to him that he only had 12
volts +/- available and if the amp was capable of 1200 watts, he could
be drawing close to 100 peak amps at times and his little hookup wire
was going to act like a fuse. Got him some appropriately sized wire.

On 3/18/14, 7:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/18/2014 6:26 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:19 PM, KC wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:01 PM, david@righthere... wrote:
I've been on 30A 120V power at the dock for years and would now like
to upgrade
to 50A 220V, or what they refer to as 50A 250V at the marina office. I
haven't
put a meter on it yet but so far suspect it's closer to 220 than 250.
The socket
on the pedestal is like the one pictured he

http://www.catagle.com/68-153/CWD_Ar...uyersGuide.htm

They say it's 3-pole 4-wire. I'm guessing X and Y are the two hot legs
and W is
the neutral. Between X or Y and W would be 120V+/- and between X and Y
is the
220/250V. Right? How does the ground tie into it though? With only 3
poles do we
run a separate wire from the boat to the pedestal, and if so how do we
tie in?

Also can anyone suggest the cheapest place to get a plug like that? So
far the
best price I've found is $68.18 he

http://www.ktool.net/servlet/the-581...-63CR65/Detail




Thank you for any help!
David


The plug is 10-20 bucks at home depot or lowes, Scottys whatever you
have. It's a dryer plug basically... As to the wiring, I forget but I
have a book I always use when I do the wiring.. It was about 20 bucks at
home depot, I have had it for as long as I have owned a house...


Yikes! It's NOT a dryer plug, basically or otherwise.



Not to knock Scotty but I got a big kick out of his statement, "As to
the wiring, I forget but I have a book I always use when I do the wiring".

I think Scott should limit his wiring to 12 volt devices. Whoops. I
take that back. My oldest grandson recently got his first car and
(like all teenagers) was installing a sound system that included a
massive bass speaker cabinet and a dedicated, 1200 watt amplifier to
drive it. He was wiring the power to the amp with some small gauge
"hook up" wire that he bought. I explained to him that he only had 12
volts +/- available and if the amp was capable of 1200 watts, he could
be drawing close to 100 peak amps at times and his little hookup wire
was going to act like a fuse. Got him some appropriately sized wire.



I'm not a fan of taking unnecessary physical, fire or explosion risks,
so I don't do wiring any more difficult than replacing a switch or a
light fixture. We haven't really had any serious electrical issues here.
The wiring for our generator was handled by the contractor's licensed
electricians.

F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/18/14, 7:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/18/2014 6:26 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:19 PM, KC wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:01 PM, david@righthere... wrote:
I've been on 30A 120V power at the dock for years and would now like
to upgrade
to 50A 220V, or what they refer to as 50A 250V at the marina
office. I
haven't
put a meter on it yet but so far suspect it's closer to 220 than 250.
The socket
on the pedestal is like the one pictured he

http://www.catagle.com/68-153/CWD_Ar...uyersGuide.htm

They say it's 3-pole 4-wire. I'm guessing X and Y are the two hot
legs
and W is
the neutral. Between X or Y and W would be 120V+/- and between X
and Y
is the
220/250V. Right? How does the ground tie into it though? With only 3
poles do we
run a separate wire from the boat to the pedestal, and if so how
do we
tie in?

Also can anyone suggest the cheapest place to get a plug like
that? So
far the
best price I've found is $68.18 he

http://www.ktool.net/servlet/the-581...-63CR65/Detail





Thank you for any help!
David


The plug is 10-20 bucks at home depot or lowes, Scottys whatever you
have. It's a dryer plug basically... As to the wiring, I forget but I
have a book I always use when I do the wiring.. It was about 20
bucks at
home depot, I have had it for as long as I have owned a house...


Yikes! It's NOT a dryer plug, basically or otherwise.



Not to knock Scotty but I got a big kick out of his statement, "As to
the wiring, I forget but I have a book I always use when I do the
wiring".

I think Scott should limit his wiring to 12 volt devices. Whoops. I
take that back. My oldest grandson recently got his first car and
(like all teenagers) was installing a sound system that included a
massive bass speaker cabinet and a dedicated, 1200 watt amplifier to
drive it. He was wiring the power to the amp with some small gauge
"hook up" wire that he bought. I explained to him that he only had 12
volts +/- available and if the amp was capable of 1200 watts, he could
be drawing close to 100 peak amps at times and his little hookup wire
was going to act like a fuse. Got him some appropriately sized wire.



I'm not a fan of taking unnecessary physical, fire or explosion risks,
so I don't do wiring any more difficult than replacing a switch or a
light fixture. We haven't really had any serious electrical issues
here. The wiring for our generator was handled by the contractor's
licensed electricians.
Thank you for your invaluable input.

On 3/18/2014 7:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/18/2014 6:26 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:19 PM, KC wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:01 PM, david@righthere... wrote:
I've been on 30A 120V power at the dock for years and would now like
to upgrade
to 50A 220V, or what they refer to as 50A 250V at the marina office. I
haven't
put a meter on it yet but so far suspect it's closer to 220 than 250.
The socket
on the pedestal is like the one pictured he

http://www.catagle.com/68-153/CWD_Ar...uyersGuide.htm

They say it's 3-pole 4-wire. I'm guessing X and Y are the two hot legs
and W is
the neutral. Between X or Y and W would be 120V+/- and between X and Y
is the
220/250V. Right? How does the ground tie into it though? With only 3
poles do we
run a separate wire from the boat to the pedestal, and if so how do we
tie in?

Also can anyone suggest the cheapest place to get a plug like that? So
far the
best price I've found is $68.18 he

http://www.ktool.net/servlet/the-581...-63CR65/Detail




Thank you for any help!
David


The plug is 10-20 bucks at home depot or lowes, Scottys whatever you
have. It's a dryer plug basically... As to the wiring, I forget but I
have a book I always use when I do the wiring.. It was about 20 bucks at
home depot, I have had it for as long as I have owned a house...


Yikes! It's NOT a dryer plug, basically or otherwise.



Not to knock Scotty but I got a big kick out of his statement, "As to
the wiring, I forget but I have a book I always use when I do the wiring".

I think Scott should limit his wiring to 12 volt devices. Whoops. I
take that back. My oldest grandson recently got his first car and
(like all teenagers) was installing a sound system that included a
massive bass speaker cabinet and a dedicated, 1200 watt amplifier to
drive it. He was wiring the power to the amp with some small gauge
"hook up" wire that he bought. I explained to him that he only had 12
volts +/- available and if the amp was capable of 1200 watts, he could
be drawing close to 100 peak amps at times and his little hookup wire
was going to act like a fuse. Got him some appropriately sized wire.



Wow, such a hero, you da man that's for sure..... Do you feel better
about yourself now? Y

On 3/18/14, 7:44 AM, KC wrote:
On 3/18/2014 7:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/18/2014 6:26 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:19 PM, KC wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:01 PM, david@righthere... wrote:
I've been on 30A 120V power at the dock for years and would now like
to upgrade
to 50A 220V, or what they refer to as 50A 250V at the marina office. I
haven't
put a meter on it yet but so far suspect it's closer to 220 than 250.
The socket
on the pedestal is like the one pictured he

http://www.catagle.com/68-153/CWD_Ar...uyersGuide.htm

They say it's 3-pole 4-wire. I'm guessing X and Y are the two hot legs
and W is
the neutral. Between X or Y and W would be 120V+/- and between X and Y
is the
220/250V. Right? How does the ground tie into it though? With only 3
poles do we
run a separate wire from the boat to the pedestal, and if so how do we
tie in?

Also can anyone suggest the cheapest place to get a plug like that? So
far the
best price I've found is $68.18 he

http://www.ktool.net/servlet/the-581...-63CR65/Detail





Thank you for any help!
David


The plug is 10-20 bucks at home depot or lowes, Scottys whatever you
have. It's a dryer plug basically... As to the wiring, I forget but I
have a book I always use when I do the wiring.. It was about 20
bucks at
home depot, I have had it for as long as I have owned a house...


Yikes! It's NOT a dryer plug, basically or otherwise.



Not to knock Scotty but I got a big kick out of his statement, "As to
the wiring, I forget but I have a book I always use when I do the
wiring".

I think Scott should limit his wiring to 12 volt devices. Whoops. I
take that back. My oldest grandson recently got his first car and
(like all teenagers) was installing a sound system that included a
massive bass speaker cabinet and a dedicated, 1200 watt amplifier to
drive it. He was wiring the power to the amp with some small gauge
"hook up" wire that he bought. I explained to him that he only had 12
volts +/- available and if the amp was capable of 1200 watts, he could
be drawing close to 100 peak amps at times and his little hookup wire
was going to act like a fuse. Got him some appropriately sized wire.



Wow, such a hero, you da man that's for sure..... Do you feel better
about yourself now? Y


Do you feel a tingle?

On 3/18/2014 7:44 AM, KC wrote:
On 3/18/2014 7:05 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/18/2014 6:26 AM, F*O*A*D wrote:
On 3/17/14, 6:19 PM, KC wrote:
On 3/17/2014 6:01 PM, david@righthere... wrote:
I've been on 30A 120V power at the dock for years and would now like
to upgrade
to 50A 220V, or what they refer to as 50A 250V at the marina office. I
haven't
put a meter on it yet but so far suspect it's closer to 220 than 250.
The socket
on the pedestal is like the one pictured he

http://www.catagle.com/68-153/CWD_Ar...uyersGuide.htm

They say it's 3-pole 4-wire. I'm guessing X and Y are the two hot legs
and W is
the neutral. Between X or Y and W would be 120V+/- and between X and Y
is the
220/250V. Right? How does the ground tie into it though? With only 3
poles do we
run a separate wire from the boat to the pedestal, and if so how do we
tie in?

Also can anyone suggest the cheapest place to get a plug like that? So
far the
best price I've found is $68.18 he

http://www.ktool.net/servlet/the-581...-63CR65/Detail





Thank you for any help!
David


The plug is 10-20 bucks at home depot or lowes, Scottys whatever you
have. It's a dryer plug basically... As to the wiring, I forget but I
have a book I always use when I do the wiring.. It was about 20
bucks at
home depot, I have had it for as long as I have owned a house...


Yikes! It's NOT a dryer plug, basically or otherwise.



Not to knock Scotty but I got a big kick out of his statement, "As to
the wiring, I forget but I have a book I always use when I do the
wiring".

I think Scott should limit his wiring to 12 volt devices. Whoops. I
take that back. My oldest grandson recently got his first car and
(like all teenagers) was installing a sound system that included a
massive bass speaker cabinet and a dedicated, 1200 watt amplifier to
drive it. He was wiring the power to the amp with some small gauge
"hook up" wire that he bought. I explained to him that he only had 12
volts +/- available and if the amp was capable of 1200 watts, he could
be drawing close to 100 peak amps at times and his little hookup wire
was going to act like a fuse. Got him some appropriately sized wire.



Wow, such a hero, you da man that's for sure..... Do you feel better
about yourself now? Y


I hopefully feel better for the original poster who asked the question.
People like you who shoot your mouth off about things you know nothing
about can be dangerous to one's health and safety.

On 3/17/2014 7:14 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 18:19:42 -0400, KC wrote:

On 3/17/2014 6:01 PM, david@righthere... wrote:
I've been on 30A 120V power at the dock for years and would now like to upgrade
to 50A 220V, or what they refer to as 50A 250V at the marina office. I haven't
put a meter on it yet but so far suspect it's closer to 220 than 250. The socket
on the pedestal is like the one pictured he

http://www.catagle.com/68-153/CWD_Ar...uyersGuide.htm

They say it's 3-pole 4-wire. I'm guessing X and Y are the two hot legs and W is
the neutral. Between X or Y and W would be 120V+/- and between X and Y is the
220/250V. Right? How does the ground tie into it though? With only 3 poles do we
run a separate wire from the boat to the pedestal, and if so how do we tie in?

Also can anyone suggest the cheapest place to get a plug like that? So far the
best price I've found is $68.18 he

http://www.ktool.net/servlet/the-581...-63CR65/Detail

Thank you for any help!
David


The plug is 10-20 bucks at home depot or lowes, Scottys whatever you
have. It's a dryer plug basically... As to the wiring, I forget but I
have a book I always use when I do the wiring.. It was about 20 bucks at
home depot, I have had it for as long as I have owned a house...

Not true at all, sorry.

This is a non-NEMA twist lock 50a plug, that is corrosion resistant.

A dryer plug is a NEMA 14-30 straight blade that would go south pretty
quickly on a pier.



Yup. I think Scotty should stick to building websites and not wiring boats.