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Windows XP end of support
For all of you Win XP fans, and I am one of them, you should know that
Microsoft is dropping support soon. The implications are that it will be increasingly difficult to run new hardware and software. Additionally there will be no new fixes for security vulnerabilities. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help?ocid=XPEOS_SEM_google_FAM_WINDOWS_BRAND_NULL_ LEARN_win%20xp%20end%20of%20life&wt.mc_id=XPEOS_SE M_google_FAM_WINDOWS_BRAND_NULL_LEARN_win%20xp%20e nd%20of%20life Anyone looking for an inexpensive way to upgrade both hardware and software at the same time should take a look at this deal: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2416685&SRCCODE=WEBCRITAP&cm_mmc _o=-KeCjC2ybfwBCjCqHa-q7HaGW7CjC-gfbMw%20VkAl&utm_source=Criteo&utm_medium=CPC%2BBa nner&utm_content=Active%2BPlus&utm_campaign=retarg eting For $200 it comes with a fairly fast processor and Win 7 professional. I suspect it will sell out quickly at that price. |
Windows XP end of support
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:58:43 -0500, wrote:
For $200 it comes with a fairly fast processor and Win 7 professional. I suspect it will sell out quickly at that price. I bet off lease W7 machines will be more like $125 -150 soon and Tiger is not usually even the best place to look. === Win7 Pro by itself is worth $80 or more. |
Windows XP end of support
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 23:22:19 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
For all of you Win XP fans, and I am one of them, you should know that Microsoft is dropping support soon. The implications are that it will be increasingly difficult to run new hardware and software. Additionally there will be no new fixes for security vulnerabilities. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help?ocid=XPEOS_SEM_google_FAM_WINDOWS_BRAND_NULL_ LEARN_win%20xp%20end%20of%20life&wt.mc_id=XPEOS_SE M_google_FAM_WINDOWS_BRAND_NULL_LEARN_win%20xp%20e nd%20of%20life Anyone looking for an inexpensive way to upgrade both hardware and software at the same time should take a look at this deal: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2416685&SRCCODE=WEBCRITAP&cm_mmc _o=-KeCjC2ybfwBCjCqHa-q7HaGW7CjC-gfbMw%20VkAl&utm_source=Criteo&utm_medium=CPC%2BBa nner&utm_content=Active%2BPlus&utm_campaign=retarg eting For $200 it comes with a fairly fast processor and Win 7 professional. I suspect it will sell out quickly at that price. I've got the E8400 at 3.0GHz, and it's upright. But, that's not a bad deal. If I had kids at home I might have considered it. I'll send the info to my daughters. They may be interested for their kids. Thanks. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/10/2014 5:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 2:31 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:08:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:58:43 -0500, wrote: For $200 it comes with a fairly fast processor and Win 7 professional. I suspect it will sell out quickly at that price. I bet off lease W7 machines will be more like $125 -150 soon and Tiger is not usually even the best place to look. === Win7 Pro by itself is worth $80 or more. That is not a retail version it is the OEM so it is really not worth that much. They usually call that "logo only" (has a valid 25 digit code sticker) You are probably going to have to reload it. Since there were originally sold as "enterprise" machines, they don't come with the disks a retail customer gets. You may have to buy the disk (~$10). I bought one for my first off lease HP XP machine. It is good because it comes with all the HP drivers. A few years ago, I saw some allegedly new, legit XP CDs at a computer swap meeting. They were $5 to $10. Wouldn't Win 7 be available at the same sales outlets soon at similar prices? I don't keep up with the Windoze OS anymore, but I was going to install Win 7 on my Mac until I saw the OS was fetching $100+ from mail order dealers. If I happen to notice a swap meet in the area, I might stop by and pay up to $10 for a 64-bit Win 7 CD/DVD. I realize my application is somewhat in the minority but I am beginning to wish I had *not* installed Mavericks in my iMac. I am having all kinds of problems making a midi controller work properly for recording purposes. The midi "events" simply instruct the program used to play certain instruments, what note, velocity, etc. I am having problems with the system "hanging", missing event inputs and generally operating in an unstable way. I thought it was me. After a month of trying to make it work properly I have discovered that their are many, many other long term Mac users who are experiencing the same problems, most of whom used previous versions of the Mac OSX with no problems at all. I've scoured the Apple Support forums and, to date, no one has found the "secret" to making Mavericks work with midi in the same, reliable manner that Mountain Lion and previous versions worked. My friend (the recording engineer) has none of these problems with Mountain Lion and is using basically the same type of equipment I have. He was about to upgrade to Mavericks but I suggested to him that he may want to hold off for a while. I tried temporarily hooking everything up to my Win 7 computer. Works fine. I wonder if I can remove Mavericks and re-install Mountain Lion. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/10/14, 7:45 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/10/2014 5:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 2:31 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:08:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:58:43 -0500, wrote: For $200 it comes with a fairly fast processor and Win 7 professional. I suspect it will sell out quickly at that price. I bet off lease W7 machines will be more like $125 -150 soon and Tiger is not usually even the best place to look. === Win7 Pro by itself is worth $80 or more. That is not a retail version it is the OEM so it is really not worth that much. They usually call that "logo only" (has a valid 25 digit code sticker) You are probably going to have to reload it. Since there were originally sold as "enterprise" machines, they don't come with the disks a retail customer gets. You may have to buy the disk (~$10). I bought one for my first off lease HP XP machine. It is good because it comes with all the HP drivers. A few years ago, I saw some allegedly new, legit XP CDs at a computer swap meeting. They were $5 to $10. Wouldn't Win 7 be available at the same sales outlets soon at similar prices? I don't keep up with the Windoze OS anymore, but I was going to install Win 7 on my Mac until I saw the OS was fetching $100+ from mail order dealers. If I happen to notice a swap meet in the area, I might stop by and pay up to $10 for a 64-bit Win 7 CD/DVD. I realize my application is somewhat in the minority but I am beginning to wish I had *not* installed Mavericks in my iMac. I am having all kinds of problems making a midi controller work properly for recording purposes. The midi "events" simply instruct the program used to play certain instruments, what note, velocity, etc. I am having problems with the system "hanging", missing event inputs and generally operating in an unstable way. I thought it was me. After a month of trying to make it work properly I have discovered that their are many, many other long term Mac users who are experiencing the same problems, most of whom used previous versions of the Mac OSX with no problems at all. I've scoured the Apple Support forums and, to date, no one has found the "secret" to making Mavericks work with midi in the same, reliable manner that Mountain Lion and previous versions worked. My friend (the recording engineer) has none of these problems with Mountain Lion and is using basically the same type of equipment I have. He was about to upgrade to Mavericks but I suggested to him that he may want to hold off for a while. I tried temporarily hooking everything up to my Win 7 computer. Works fine. I wonder if I can remove Mavericks and re-install Mountain Lion. Have you contacted Apple directly via Apple Care? I had a problem getting the built-in wifi on my new little Canon camera to link up consistently with my new iMac. I contacted Apple care last week, an engineer called me, he had a solution that partially worked and said he would escalate the problem to a development team. He called me on Saturday to let me know the "team" sent him an email saying it was working on the problem and might get back to him this week. -- There’s no point crying over spilled 4-Methylcyclohexanemethanol. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/10/2014 7:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 7:45 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 5:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 2:31 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:08:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:58:43 -0500, wrote: For $200 it comes with a fairly fast processor and Win 7 professional. I suspect it will sell out quickly at that price. I bet off lease W7 machines will be more like $125 -150 soon and Tiger is not usually even the best place to look. === Win7 Pro by itself is worth $80 or more. That is not a retail version it is the OEM so it is really not worth that much. They usually call that "logo only" (has a valid 25 digit code sticker) You are probably going to have to reload it. Since there were originally sold as "enterprise" machines, they don't come with the disks a retail customer gets. You may have to buy the disk (~$10). I bought one for my first off lease HP XP machine. It is good because it comes with all the HP drivers. A few years ago, I saw some allegedly new, legit XP CDs at a computer swap meeting. They were $5 to $10. Wouldn't Win 7 be available at the same sales outlets soon at similar prices? I don't keep up with the Windoze OS anymore, but I was going to install Win 7 on my Mac until I saw the OS was fetching $100+ from mail order dealers. If I happen to notice a swap meet in the area, I might stop by and pay up to $10 for a 64-bit Win 7 CD/DVD. I realize my application is somewhat in the minority but I am beginning to wish I had *not* installed Mavericks in my iMac. I am having all kinds of problems making a midi controller work properly for recording purposes. The midi "events" simply instruct the program used to play certain instruments, what note, velocity, etc. I am having problems with the system "hanging", missing event inputs and generally operating in an unstable way. I thought it was me. After a month of trying to make it work properly I have discovered that their are many, many other long term Mac users who are experiencing the same problems, most of whom used previous versions of the Mac OSX with no problems at all. I've scoured the Apple Support forums and, to date, no one has found the "secret" to making Mavericks work with midi in the same, reliable manner that Mountain Lion and previous versions worked. My friend (the recording engineer) has none of these problems with Mountain Lion and is using basically the same type of equipment I have. He was about to upgrade to Mavericks but I suggested to him that he may want to hold off for a while. I tried temporarily hooking everything up to my Win 7 computer. Works fine. I wonder if I can remove Mavericks and re-install Mountain Lion. Have you contacted Apple directly via Apple Care? I had a problem getting the built-in wifi on my new little Canon camera to link up consistently with my new iMac. I contacted Apple care last week, an engineer called me, he had a solution that partially worked and said he would escalate the problem to a development team. He called me on Saturday to let me know the "team" sent him an email saying it was working on the problem and might get back to him this week. I have not personally called Apple Care but a number of Mac users on the forums who are experiencing the same problems have indicated that they have. To date, there appears to be no resolution. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/10/14, 8:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/10/2014 7:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 7:45 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 5:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 2:31 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:08:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:58:43 -0500, wrote: For $200 it comes with a fairly fast processor and Win 7 professional. I suspect it will sell out quickly at that price. I bet off lease W7 machines will be more like $125 -150 soon and Tiger is not usually even the best place to look. === Win7 Pro by itself is worth $80 or more. That is not a retail version it is the OEM so it is really not worth that much. They usually call that "logo only" (has a valid 25 digit code sticker) You are probably going to have to reload it. Since there were originally sold as "enterprise" machines, they don't come with the disks a retail customer gets. You may have to buy the disk (~$10). I bought one for my first off lease HP XP machine. It is good because it comes with all the HP drivers. A few years ago, I saw some allegedly new, legit XP CDs at a computer swap meeting. They were $5 to $10. Wouldn't Win 7 be available at the same sales outlets soon at similar prices? I don't keep up with the Windoze OS anymore, but I was going to install Win 7 on my Mac until I saw the OS was fetching $100+ from mail order dealers. If I happen to notice a swap meet in the area, I might stop by and pay up to $10 for a 64-bit Win 7 CD/DVD. I realize my application is somewhat in the minority but I am beginning to wish I had *not* installed Mavericks in my iMac. I am having all kinds of problems making a midi controller work properly for recording purposes. The midi "events" simply instruct the program used to play certain instruments, what note, velocity, etc. I am having problems with the system "hanging", missing event inputs and generally operating in an unstable way. I thought it was me. After a month of trying to make it work properly I have discovered that their are many, many other long term Mac users who are experiencing the same problems, most of whom used previous versions of the Mac OSX with no problems at all. I've scoured the Apple Support forums and, to date, no one has found the "secret" to making Mavericks work with midi in the same, reliable manner that Mountain Lion and previous versions worked. My friend (the recording engineer) has none of these problems with Mountain Lion and is using basically the same type of equipment I have. He was about to upgrade to Mavericks but I suggested to him that he may want to hold off for a while. I tried temporarily hooking everything up to my Win 7 computer. Works fine. I wonder if I can remove Mavericks and re-install Mountain Lion. Have you contacted Apple directly via Apple Care? I had a problem getting the built-in wifi on my new little Canon camera to link up consistently with my new iMac. I contacted Apple care last week, an engineer called me, he had a solution that partially worked and said he would escalate the problem to a development team. He called me on Saturday to let me know the "team" sent him an email saying it was working on the problem and might get back to him this week. I have not personally called Apple Care but a number of Mac users on the forums who are experiencing the same problems have indicated that they have. To date, there appears to be no resolution. How about the midi software vendor? If it expects its product to survive, it obvious has to make an update available. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/10/2014 9:05 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 8:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 7:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 7:45 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 5:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 2:31 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:08:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:58:43 -0500, wrote: For $200 it comes with a fairly fast processor and Win 7 professional. I suspect it will sell out quickly at that price. I bet off lease W7 machines will be more like $125 -150 soon and Tiger is not usually even the best place to look. === Win7 Pro by itself is worth $80 or more. That is not a retail version it is the OEM so it is really not worth that much. They usually call that "logo only" (has a valid 25 digit code sticker) You are probably going to have to reload it. Since there were originally sold as "enterprise" machines, they don't come with the disks a retail customer gets. You may have to buy the disk (~$10). I bought one for my first off lease HP XP machine. It is good because it comes with all the HP drivers. A few years ago, I saw some allegedly new, legit XP CDs at a computer swap meeting. They were $5 to $10. Wouldn't Win 7 be available at the same sales outlets soon at similar prices? I don't keep up with the Windoze OS anymore, but I was going to install Win 7 on my Mac until I saw the OS was fetching $100+ from mail order dealers. If I happen to notice a swap meet in the area, I might stop by and pay up to $10 for a 64-bit Win 7 CD/DVD. I realize my application is somewhat in the minority but I am beginning to wish I had *not* installed Mavericks in my iMac. I am having all kinds of problems making a midi controller work properly for recording purposes. The midi "events" simply instruct the program used to play certain instruments, what note, velocity, etc. I am having problems with the system "hanging", missing event inputs and generally operating in an unstable way. I thought it was me. After a month of trying to make it work properly I have discovered that their are many, many other long term Mac users who are experiencing the same problems, most of whom used previous versions of the Mac OSX with no problems at all. I've scoured the Apple Support forums and, to date, no one has found the "secret" to making Mavericks work with midi in the same, reliable manner that Mountain Lion and previous versions worked. My friend (the recording engineer) has none of these problems with Mountain Lion and is using basically the same type of equipment I have. He was about to upgrade to Mavericks but I suggested to him that he may want to hold off for a while. I tried temporarily hooking everything up to my Win 7 computer. Works fine. I wonder if I can remove Mavericks and re-install Mountain Lion. Have you contacted Apple directly via Apple Care? I had a problem getting the built-in wifi on my new little Canon camera to link up consistently with my new iMac. I contacted Apple care last week, an engineer called me, he had a solution that partially worked and said he would escalate the problem to a development team. He called me on Saturday to let me know the "team" sent him an email saying it was working on the problem and might get back to him this week. I have not personally called Apple Care but a number of Mac users on the forums who are experiencing the same problems have indicated that they have. To date, there appears to be no resolution. How about the midi software vendor? If it expects its product to survive, it obvious has to make an update available. The software I am currently using is Apple's Garage Band (full version). So, if an update is needed to run on Mavericks, I would think they would be aware of it. According to the forum users, the problem exists in other recording, editing and mixing applications besides Garage Band. Same issues of hanging and missing input events. As previously mentioned, the recording engineer I know is using essentially the same midi devices that I am using but does not have a problem with Mountain Lion. It's not going to go over well if the only resolution is to purchase new software. Pro-Tools is $700 and is probably the most popular among users, both amateur and professional. I think I mentioned that I have a brand new copy of an earlier version of Pro-Tools but I already know it won't run in Mavericks. It *does* run in Mountain Lion and also on a Windows PC. I'd be willing to go back to Mountain Lion if I knew how. Need to check into that. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/10/14, 9:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/10/2014 9:05 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 8:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 7:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 7:45 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 5:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 2:31 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:08:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:58:43 -0500, wrote: For $200 it comes with a fairly fast processor and Win 7 professional. I suspect it will sell out quickly at that price. I bet off lease W7 machines will be more like $125 -150 soon and Tiger is not usually even the best place to look. === Win7 Pro by itself is worth $80 or more. That is not a retail version it is the OEM so it is really not worth that much. They usually call that "logo only" (has a valid 25 digit code sticker) You are probably going to have to reload it. Since there were originally sold as "enterprise" machines, they don't come with the disks a retail customer gets. You may have to buy the disk (~$10). I bought one for my first off lease HP XP machine. It is good because it comes with all the HP drivers. A few years ago, I saw some allegedly new, legit XP CDs at a computer swap meeting. They were $5 to $10. Wouldn't Win 7 be available at the same sales outlets soon at similar prices? I don't keep up with the Windoze OS anymore, but I was going to install Win 7 on my Mac until I saw the OS was fetching $100+ from mail order dealers. If I happen to notice a swap meet in the area, I might stop by and pay up to $10 for a 64-bit Win 7 CD/DVD. I realize my application is somewhat in the minority but I am beginning to wish I had *not* installed Mavericks in my iMac. I am having all kinds of problems making a midi controller work properly for recording purposes. The midi "events" simply instruct the program used to play certain instruments, what note, velocity, etc. I am having problems with the system "hanging", missing event inputs and generally operating in an unstable way. I thought it was me. After a month of trying to make it work properly I have discovered that their are many, many other long term Mac users who are experiencing the same problems, most of whom used previous versions of the Mac OSX with no problems at all. I've scoured the Apple Support forums and, to date, no one has found the "secret" to making Mavericks work with midi in the same, reliable manner that Mountain Lion and previous versions worked. My friend (the recording engineer) has none of these problems with Mountain Lion and is using basically the same type of equipment I have. He was about to upgrade to Mavericks but I suggested to him that he may want to hold off for a while. I tried temporarily hooking everything up to my Win 7 computer. Works fine. I wonder if I can remove Mavericks and re-install Mountain Lion. Have you contacted Apple directly via Apple Care? I had a problem getting the built-in wifi on my new little Canon camera to link up consistently with my new iMac. I contacted Apple care last week, an engineer called me, he had a solution that partially worked and said he would escalate the problem to a development team. He called me on Saturday to let me know the "team" sent him an email saying it was working on the problem and might get back to him this week. I have not personally called Apple Care but a number of Mac users on the forums who are experiencing the same problems have indicated that they have. To date, there appears to be no resolution. How about the midi software vendor? If it expects its product to survive, it obvious has to make an update available. The software I am currently using is Apple's Garage Band (full version). So, if an update is needed to run on Mavericks, I would think they would be aware of it. According to the forum users, the problem exists in other recording, editing and mixing applications besides Garage Band. Same issues of hanging and missing input events. As previously mentioned, the recording engineer I know is using essentially the same midi devices that I am using but does not have a problem with Mountain Lion. It's not going to go over well if the only resolution is to purchase new software. Pro-Tools is $700 and is probably the most popular among users, both amateur and professional. I think I mentioned that I have a brand new copy of an earlier version of Pro-Tools but I already know it won't run in Mavericks. It *does* run in Mountain Lion and also on a Windows PC. I'd be willing to go back to Mountain Lion if I knew how. Need to check into that. My understand is that Garage Band is a very popular Mac app. If I were you, I would contact Apple Care and complain and get a case number and get followups. They will fix it. As for going back to ML, I dunno. I never tried that. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/10/2014 9:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/10/2014 9:05 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 8:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 7:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 7:45 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 5:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 2:31 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:08:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:58:43 -0500, wrote: For $200 it comes with a fairly fast processor and Win 7 professional. I suspect it will sell out quickly at that price. I bet off lease W7 machines will be more like $125 -150 soon and Tiger is not usually even the best place to look. === Win7 Pro by itself is worth $80 or more. That is not a retail version it is the OEM so it is really not worth that much. They usually call that "logo only" (has a valid 25 digit code sticker) You are probably going to have to reload it. Since there were originally sold as "enterprise" machines, they don't come with the disks a retail customer gets. You may have to buy the disk (~$10). I bought one for my first off lease HP XP machine. It is good because it comes with all the HP drivers. A few years ago, I saw some allegedly new, legit XP CDs at a computer swap meeting. They were $5 to $10. Wouldn't Win 7 be available at the same sales outlets soon at similar prices? I don't keep up with the Windoze OS anymore, but I was going to install Win 7 on my Mac until I saw the OS was fetching $100+ from mail order dealers. If I happen to notice a swap meet in the area, I might stop by and pay up to $10 for a 64-bit Win 7 CD/DVD. I realize my application is somewhat in the minority but I am beginning to wish I had *not* installed Mavericks in my iMac. I am having all kinds of problems making a midi controller work properly for recording purposes. The midi "events" simply instruct the program used to play certain instruments, what note, velocity, etc. I am having problems with the system "hanging", missing event inputs and generally operating in an unstable way. I thought it was me. After a month of trying to make it work properly I have discovered that their are many, many other long term Mac users who are experiencing the same problems, most of whom used previous versions of the Mac OSX with no problems at all. I've scoured the Apple Support forums and, to date, no one has found the "secret" to making Mavericks work with midi in the same, reliable manner that Mountain Lion and previous versions worked. My friend (the recording engineer) has none of these problems with Mountain Lion and is using basically the same type of equipment I have. He was about to upgrade to Mavericks but I suggested to him that he may want to hold off for a while. I tried temporarily hooking everything up to my Win 7 computer. Works fine. I wonder if I can remove Mavericks and re-install Mountain Lion. Have you contacted Apple directly via Apple Care? I had a problem getting the built-in wifi on my new little Canon camera to link up consistently with my new iMac. I contacted Apple care last week, an engineer called me, he had a solution that partially worked and said he would escalate the problem to a development team. He called me on Saturday to let me know the "team" sent him an email saying it was working on the problem and might get back to him this week. I have not personally called Apple Care but a number of Mac users on the forums who are experiencing the same problems have indicated that they have. To date, there appears to be no resolution. How about the midi software vendor? If it expects its product to survive, it obvious has to make an update available. The software I am currently using is Apple's Garage Band (full version). So, if an update is needed to run on Mavericks, I would think they would be aware of it. According to the forum users, the problem exists in other recording, editing and mixing applications besides Garage Band. Same issues of hanging and missing input events. As previously mentioned, the recording engineer I know is using essentially the same midi devices that I am using but does not have a problem with Mountain Lion. It's not going to go over well if the only resolution is to purchase new software. Pro-Tools is $700 and is probably the most popular among users, both amateur and professional. I think I mentioned that I have a brand new copy of an earlier version of Pro-Tools but I already know it won't run in Mavericks. It *does* run in Mountain Lion and also on a Windows PC. I'd be willing to go back to Mountain Lion if I knew how. Need to check into that. Is there something wrong with Windows? |
Windows XP end of support
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:08:24 -0500, HanK wrote:
Is there something wrong with Windows? === It's too complicated for Harry's simple tastes. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/10/14, 11:34 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:08:24 -0500, HanK wrote: Is there something wrong with Windows? === It's too complicated for Harry's simple tastes. Can not be, when you are all knowing. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/10/2014 2:08 PM, HanK wrote:
On 2/10/2014 9:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 9:05 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 8:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 7:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 7:45 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 5:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 2:31 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:08:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:58:43 -0500, wrote: For $200 it comes with a fairly fast processor and Win 7 professional. I suspect it will sell out quickly at that price. I bet off lease W7 machines will be more like $125 -150 soon and Tiger is not usually even the best place to look. === Win7 Pro by itself is worth $80 or more. That is not a retail version it is the OEM so it is really not worth that much. They usually call that "logo only" (has a valid 25 digit code sticker) You are probably going to have to reload it. Since there were originally sold as "enterprise" machines, they don't come with the disks a retail customer gets. You may have to buy the disk (~$10). I bought one for my first off lease HP XP machine. It is good because it comes with all the HP drivers. A few years ago, I saw some allegedly new, legit XP CDs at a computer swap meeting. They were $5 to $10. Wouldn't Win 7 be available at the same sales outlets soon at similar prices? I don't keep up with the Windoze OS anymore, but I was going to install Win 7 on my Mac until I saw the OS was fetching $100+ from mail order dealers. If I happen to notice a swap meet in the area, I might stop by and pay up to $10 for a 64-bit Win 7 CD/DVD. I realize my application is somewhat in the minority but I am beginning to wish I had *not* installed Mavericks in my iMac. I am having all kinds of problems making a midi controller work properly for recording purposes. The midi "events" simply instruct the program used to play certain instruments, what note, velocity, etc. I am having problems with the system "hanging", missing event inputs and generally operating in an unstable way. I thought it was me. After a month of trying to make it work properly I have discovered that their are many, many other long term Mac users who are experiencing the same problems, most of whom used previous versions of the Mac OSX with no problems at all. I've scoured the Apple Support forums and, to date, no one has found the "secret" to making Mavericks work with midi in the same, reliable manner that Mountain Lion and previous versions worked. My friend (the recording engineer) has none of these problems with Mountain Lion and is using basically the same type of equipment I have. He was about to upgrade to Mavericks but I suggested to him that he may want to hold off for a while. I tried temporarily hooking everything up to my Win 7 computer. Works fine. I wonder if I can remove Mavericks and re-install Mountain Lion. Have you contacted Apple directly via Apple Care? I had a problem getting the built-in wifi on my new little Canon camera to link up consistently with my new iMac. I contacted Apple care last week, an engineer called me, he had a solution that partially worked and said he would escalate the problem to a development team. He called me on Saturday to let me know the "team" sent him an email saying it was working on the problem and might get back to him this week. I have not personally called Apple Care but a number of Mac users on the forums who are experiencing the same problems have indicated that they have. To date, there appears to be no resolution. How about the midi software vendor? If it expects its product to survive, it obvious has to make an update available. The software I am currently using is Apple's Garage Band (full version). So, if an update is needed to run on Mavericks, I would think they would be aware of it. According to the forum users, the problem exists in other recording, editing and mixing applications besides Garage Band. Same issues of hanging and missing input events. As previously mentioned, the recording engineer I know is using essentially the same midi devices that I am using but does not have a problem with Mountain Lion. It's not going to go over well if the only resolution is to purchase new software. Pro-Tools is $700 and is probably the most popular among users, both amateur and professional. I think I mentioned that I have a brand new copy of an earlier version of Pro-Tools but I already know it won't run in Mavericks. It *does* run in Mountain Lion and also on a Windows PC. I'd be willing to go back to Mountain Lion if I knew how. Need to check into that. Is there something wrong with Windows? Nothing wrong with Windows in my experience. It's just that the iMac has a much nicer, easier to read display and came with more RAM and a faster hard drive so it seems to handle more demanding applications better. For what I am messing around with, the iMac is definitely faster. I really haven't got into much more of it yet, so I can't really comment on other applications. I suspect less demanding applications such as word processing, etc. won't be noticeably from Mac to Windows. What I do with the recording/editing/mixing and mastering tasks a computer fairly hard. I suspect that's why most pros who do it use Macs. I've noticed a few things that may or may not be a fair comparison. For example, if I watch a long video on one of the Windows laptops, the fan starts running faster and the housing gets noticeably warm to the touch, meaning the CPU and other electronic components are working harder. The iMac is dead silent. The housing never feels warm at all, even after some extensive hard use like watching a full length movie in full screen. The only time I've ever heard the disk drive run is when I was downloading and installing the Mavericks OSX upgrade. Other than that, I've never heard it. Not the same on the Windows machines. |
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On 2/10/2014 2:34 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:08:24 -0500, HanK wrote: Is there something wrong with Windows? === It's too complicated for Harry's simple tastes. It must be. Even with the uncomplicated Apple box he uses, he seems to be needing an ever expanding team of experts to show him how to run it. But in Harry's defense, even some of the brighter individuals here are having issues with Apple stuff. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/10/2014 2:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/10/2014 2:08 PM, HanK wrote: On 2/10/2014 9:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 9:05 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 8:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 7:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 7:45 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 5:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 2:31 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:08:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:58:43 -0500, wrote: For $200 it comes with a fairly fast processor and Win 7 professional. I suspect it will sell out quickly at that price. I bet off lease W7 machines will be more like $125 -150 soon and Tiger is not usually even the best place to look. === Win7 Pro by itself is worth $80 or more. That is not a retail version it is the OEM so it is really not worth that much. They usually call that "logo only" (has a valid 25 digit code sticker) You are probably going to have to reload it. Since there were originally sold as "enterprise" machines, they don't come with the disks a retail customer gets. You may have to buy the disk (~$10). I bought one for my first off lease HP XP machine. It is good because it comes with all the HP drivers. A few years ago, I saw some allegedly new, legit XP CDs at a computer swap meeting. They were $5 to $10. Wouldn't Win 7 be available at the same sales outlets soon at similar prices? I don't keep up with the Windoze OS anymore, but I was going to install Win 7 on my Mac until I saw the OS was fetching $100+ from mail order dealers. If I happen to notice a swap meet in the area, I might stop by and pay up to $10 for a 64-bit Win 7 CD/DVD. I realize my application is somewhat in the minority but I am beginning to wish I had *not* installed Mavericks in my iMac. I am having all kinds of problems making a midi controller work properly for recording purposes. The midi "events" simply instruct the program used to play certain instruments, what note, velocity, etc. I am having problems with the system "hanging", missing event inputs and generally operating in an unstable way. I thought it was me. After a month of trying to make it work properly I have discovered that their are many, many other long term Mac users who are experiencing the same problems, most of whom used previous versions of the Mac OSX with no problems at all. I've scoured the Apple Support forums and, to date, no one has found the "secret" to making Mavericks work with midi in the same, reliable manner that Mountain Lion and previous versions worked. My friend (the recording engineer) has none of these problems with Mountain Lion and is using basically the same type of equipment I have. He was about to upgrade to Mavericks but I suggested to him that he may want to hold off for a while. I tried temporarily hooking everything up to my Win 7 computer. Works fine. I wonder if I can remove Mavericks and re-install Mountain Lion. Have you contacted Apple directly via Apple Care? I had a problem getting the built-in wifi on my new little Canon camera to link up consistently with my new iMac. I contacted Apple care last week, an engineer called me, he had a solution that partially worked and said he would escalate the problem to a development team. He called me on Saturday to let me know the "team" sent him an email saying it was working on the problem and might get back to him this week. I have not personally called Apple Care but a number of Mac users on the forums who are experiencing the same problems have indicated that they have. To date, there appears to be no resolution. How about the midi software vendor? If it expects its product to survive, it obvious has to make an update available. The software I am currently using is Apple's Garage Band (full version). So, if an update is needed to run on Mavericks, I would think they would be aware of it. According to the forum users, the problem exists in other recording, editing and mixing applications besides Garage Band. Same issues of hanging and missing input events. As previously mentioned, the recording engineer I know is using essentially the same midi devices that I am using but does not have a problem with Mountain Lion. It's not going to go over well if the only resolution is to purchase new software. Pro-Tools is $700 and is probably the most popular among users, both amateur and professional. I think I mentioned that I have a brand new copy of an earlier version of Pro-Tools but I already know it won't run in Mavericks. It *does* run in Mountain Lion and also on a Windows PC. I'd be willing to go back to Mountain Lion if I knew how. Need to check into that. Is there something wrong with Windows? Nothing wrong with Windows in my experience. It's just that the iMac has a much nicer, easier to read display and came with more RAM and a faster hard drive so it seems to handle more demanding applications better. For what I am messing around with, the iMac is definitely faster. I really haven't got into much more of it yet, so I can't really comment on other applications. I suspect less demanding applications such as word processing, etc. won't be noticeably from Mac to Windows. What I do with the recording/editing/mixing and mastering tasks a computer fairly hard. I suspect that's why most pros who do it use Macs. I've noticed a few things that may or may not be a fair comparison. For example, if I watch a long video on one of the Windows laptops, the fan starts running faster and the housing gets noticeably warm to the touch, meaning the CPU and other electronic components are working harder. The iMac is dead silent. The housing never feels warm at all, even after some extensive hard use like watching a full length movie in full screen. The only time I've ever heard the disk drive run is when I was downloading and installing the Mavericks OSX upgrade. Other than that, I've never heard it. Not the same on the Windows machines. Are you comparing your new Apple to a new Windows machine with equal or better resources? I suspect most pros are more into their art than computers. |
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On 2/10/2014 3:08 PM, HanK wrote:
On 2/10/2014 2:44 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 2:08 PM, HanK wrote: On 2/10/2014 9:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 9:05 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 8:58 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 7:57 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 7:45 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/10/2014 5:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/10/14, 2:31 AM, wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 01:08:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 00:58:43 -0500, wrote: For $200 it comes with a fairly fast processor and Win 7 professional. I suspect it will sell out quickly at that price. I bet off lease W7 machines will be more like $125 -150 soon and Tiger is not usually even the best place to look. === Win7 Pro by itself is worth $80 or more. That is not a retail version it is the OEM so it is really not worth that much. They usually call that "logo only" (has a valid 25 digit code sticker) You are probably going to have to reload it. Since there were originally sold as "enterprise" machines, they don't come with the disks a retail customer gets. You may have to buy the disk (~$10). I bought one for my first off lease HP XP machine. It is good because it comes with all the HP drivers. A few years ago, I saw some allegedly new, legit XP CDs at a computer swap meeting. They were $5 to $10. Wouldn't Win 7 be available at the same sales outlets soon at similar prices? I don't keep up with the Windoze OS anymore, but I was going to install Win 7 on my Mac until I saw the OS was fetching $100+ from mail order dealers. If I happen to notice a swap meet in the area, I might stop by and pay up to $10 for a 64-bit Win 7 CD/DVD. I realize my application is somewhat in the minority but I am beginning to wish I had *not* installed Mavericks in my iMac. I am having all kinds of problems making a midi controller work properly for recording purposes. The midi "events" simply instruct the program used to play certain instruments, what note, velocity, etc. I am having problems with the system "hanging", missing event inputs and generally operating in an unstable way. I thought it was me. After a month of trying to make it work properly I have discovered that their are many, many other long term Mac users who are experiencing the same problems, most of whom used previous versions of the Mac OSX with no problems at all. I've scoured the Apple Support forums and, to date, no one has found the "secret" to making Mavericks work with midi in the same, reliable manner that Mountain Lion and previous versions worked. My friend (the recording engineer) has none of these problems with Mountain Lion and is using basically the same type of equipment I have. He was about to upgrade to Mavericks but I suggested to him that he may want to hold off for a while. I tried temporarily hooking everything up to my Win 7 computer. Works fine. I wonder if I can remove Mavericks and re-install Mountain Lion. Have you contacted Apple directly via Apple Care? I had a problem getting the built-in wifi on my new little Canon camera to link up consistently with my new iMac. I contacted Apple care last week, an engineer called me, he had a solution that partially worked and said he would escalate the problem to a development team. He called me on Saturday to let me know the "team" sent him an email saying it was working on the problem and might get back to him this week. I have not personally called Apple Care but a number of Mac users on the forums who are experiencing the same problems have indicated that they have. To date, there appears to be no resolution. How about the midi software vendor? If it expects its product to survive, it obvious has to make an update available. The software I am currently using is Apple's Garage Band (full version). So, if an update is needed to run on Mavericks, I would think they would be aware of it. According to the forum users, the problem exists in other recording, editing and mixing applications besides Garage Band. Same issues of hanging and missing input events. As previously mentioned, the recording engineer I know is using essentially the same midi devices that I am using but does not have a problem with Mountain Lion. It's not going to go over well if the only resolution is to purchase new software. Pro-Tools is $700 and is probably the most popular among users, both amateur and professional. I think I mentioned that I have a brand new copy of an earlier version of Pro-Tools but I already know it won't run in Mavericks. It *does* run in Mountain Lion and also on a Windows PC. I'd be willing to go back to Mountain Lion if I knew how. Need to check into that. Is there something wrong with Windows? Nothing wrong with Windows in my experience. It's just that the iMac has a much nicer, easier to read display and came with more RAM and a faster hard drive so it seems to handle more demanding applications better. For what I am messing around with, the iMac is definitely faster. I really haven't got into much more of it yet, so I can't really comment on other applications. I suspect less demanding applications such as word processing, etc. won't be noticeably from Mac to Windows. What I do with the recording/editing/mixing and mastering tasks a computer fairly hard. I suspect that's why most pros who do it use Macs. I've noticed a few things that may or may not be a fair comparison. For example, if I watch a long video on one of the Windows laptops, the fan starts running faster and the housing gets noticeably warm to the touch, meaning the CPU and other electronic components are working harder. The iMac is dead silent. The housing never feels warm at all, even after some extensive hard use like watching a full length movie in full screen. The only time I've ever heard the disk drive run is when I was downloading and installing the Mavericks OSX upgrade. Other than that, I've never heard it. Not the same on the Windows machines. Are you comparing your new Apple to a new Windows machine with equal or better resources? I suspect most pros are more into their art than computers. Both of my Windows laptops are 64 bit machines with a similar CPU clock speed of the iMac. I think the iMac has a slightly faster CPU than the Vista laptop but is near identical to the Win7 laptop. The major difference is RAM. The laptops each have 4Gb whereas the iMac has 8Gb. I don't know how that would affect how hot they run however. Maybe it does. I just don't know. All I know is that the iMac is dead silent, even when performing a lot of computing and I can't feel any "warm" spots on it anywhere. I've felt for it, mainy because I am curious like that. |
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On 2/10/2014 6:31 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... Have you contacted Apple directly via Apple Care? I had a problem getting the built-in wifi on my new little Canon camera to link up consistently with my new iMac. I contacted Apple care last week, an engineer called me, he had a solution that partially worked and said he would escalate the problem to a development team. He called me on Saturday to let me know the "team" sent him an email saying it was working on the problem and might get back to him this week. I'm beginning to see why the computer-illiterate prefer Apple. Hand-holding. I wonder how many people here with Win systems have talked to or exchanged e-mails with Window tech support. Not me. Me either and I've been using Windows since it came out. Before that I used DOS and "Geo-Works". I am still exploring the Mac world. There are things I like and there are things I either don't like or maybe don't understand yet. One thing is for sure however. The "Mac" world is not as intuitive or problem-free as many of the Apple acolytes would like us all to believe. Other than the issue I am having with recording midi stuff I really haven't had an issue that I couldn't figure out, but it sometimes takes some hunting on the 'net to find the answers. The "help" sections and tutorials built into the Mac are not very specific or helpful. I get the impression sometimes that those who never used a computer or Windows would have an easier time becoming accustom to the Mac world which is maybe why I get tangle footed sometimes. Here's an example. I was trying to set up the 16 channels for midi event inputs last night. There's a window I found that represents the channels as boxes, numbered 1-16. I discovered if you click on the individual boxes, they change color from white to blue but nowhere does it indicate if blue represents "on" or "off". I guess you are just supposed to know this stuff. Wouldn't a check mark for "on" and blank for "off" make more sense? Why white and blue? Beats me. This is after spending an hour even finding the setup window with the boxes for these channels. Nowhere can I find any references to it in the help sections or setup instructions. |
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On 2/10/14, 6:31 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... Have you contacted Apple directly via Apple Care? I had a problem getting the built-in wifi on my new little Canon camera to link up consistently with my new iMac. I contacted Apple care last week, an engineer called me, he had a solution that partially worked and said he would escalate the problem to a development team. He called me on Saturday to let me know the "team" sent him an email saying it was working on the problem and might get back to him this week. I'm beginning to see why the computer-illiterate prefer Apple. Hand-holding. I wonder how many people here with Win systems have talked to or exchanged e-mails with Window tech support. Not me. Yeah, right, because Windoze users are all able to code their own device drivers and wifi hooks and so there's no reason to contact Microsoft. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
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On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:44:23 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Not the same on the Windows machines. === Not all Windows machines are created equal. The Intel quad core i7 machines with processors like the 4770K are just blazing fast. It is also important to have a 64 bit operating system and substantial memory (8 to 16 Gig). |
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On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 17:31:49 -0600, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... Have you contacted Apple directly via Apple Care? I had a problem getting the built-in wifi on my new little Canon camera to link up consistently with my new iMac. I contacted Apple care last week, an engineer called me, he had a solution that partially worked and said he would escalate the problem to a development team. He called me on Saturday to let me know the "team" sent him an email saying it was working on the problem and might get back to him this week. I'm beginning to see why the computer-illiterate prefer Apple. Hand-holding. I wonder how many people here with Win systems have talked to or exchanged e-mails with Window tech support. Not me. I'll admit to looking at the MS support site on the web. |
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On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:23:55 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/10/2014 6:31 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... Have you contacted Apple directly via Apple Care? I had a problem getting the built-in wifi on my new little Canon camera to link up consistently with my new iMac. I contacted Apple care last week, an engineer called me, he had a solution that partially worked and said he would escalate the problem to a development team. He called me on Saturday to let me know the "team" sent him an email saying it was working on the problem and might get back to him this week. I'm beginning to see why the computer-illiterate prefer Apple. Hand-holding. I wonder how many people here with Win systems have talked to or exchanged e-mails with Window tech support. Not me. Me either and I've been using Windows since it came out. Before that I used DOS and "Geo-Works". I am still exploring the Mac world. There are things I like and there are things I either don't like or maybe don't understand yet. One thing is for sure however. The "Mac" world is not as intuitive or problem-free as many of the Apple acolytes would like us all to believe. Other than the issue I am having with recording midi stuff I really haven't had an issue that I couldn't figure out, but it sometimes takes some hunting on the 'net to find the answers. The "help" sections and tutorials built into the Mac are not very specific or helpful. I get the impression sometimes that those who never used a computer or Windows would have an easier time becoming accustom to the Mac world which is maybe why I get tangle footed sometimes. Here's an example. I was trying to set up the 16 channels for midi event inputs last night. There's a window I found that represents the channels as boxes, numbered 1-16. I discovered if you click on the individual boxes, they change color from white to blue but nowhere does it indicate if blue represents "on" or "off". I guess you are just supposed to know this stuff. Wouldn't a check mark for "on" and blank for "off" make more sense? Why white and blue? Beats me. This is after spending an hour even finding the setup window with the boxes for these channels. Nowhere can I find any references to it in the help sections or setup instructions. I would try making them all the same color and see what happens. Then change all the colors. Seems like that should work, although I have no idea what you're talking about. |
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On 2/10/2014 7:33 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/10/14, 6:31 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... Have you contacted Apple directly via Apple Care? I had a problem getting the built-in wifi on my new little Canon camera to link up consistently with my new iMac. I contacted Apple care last week, an engineer called me, he had a solution that partially worked and said he would escalate the problem to a development team. He called me on Saturday to let me know the "team" sent him an email saying it was working on the problem and might get back to him this week. I'm beginning to see why the computer-illiterate prefer Apple. Hand-holding. I wonder how many people here with Win systems have talked to or exchanged e-mails with Window tech support. Not me. Yeah, right, because Windoze users are all able to code their own device drivers and wifi hooks and so there's no reason to contact Microsoft. Who "codes" their own device drivers? The driver typically comes with the device, is already installed in Windows or can be easily found on-line. I've noticed that more often than not (especially on the Win7 machine) that when I hook up a new device ... like the flatbed scanner .... Windows automatically detects and loads the driver if it happens to exist in the device ... or automatically finds the appropriate one (I assume on the 'net) and installs it. I haven't used a CD supplied with a device for a long time to load a driver. Plug and Play and it works. Wi-Fi is duck soup (assuming the recycled equipment from Comcast works). Even if it doesn't, it's not very difficult to figure out where the problem resides. That all said, I've found the same to be true with the iMac ... with the annoying exception that I've previously bitched about regarding midi input events. I talked again today to my recording engineer friend to make sure I am not missing something somewhere. It appears I am doing everything correctly as far as the midi device, cabling and midi to USB conversion. It's exactly what he is doing in his recording studio. Only difference is that his iMac is the older version and he is running Mountain Lion. He also is aware of reported problems with Mavericks in the application important to his livelihood and is holding off upgrading until the issues are resolved. |
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On 2/10/2014 2:35 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
On 2/10/14, 11:34 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:08:24 -0500, HanK wrote: Is there something wrong with Windows? === It's too complicated for Harry's simple tastes. Can not be, when you are all knowing. He's into video and pictures of his cats.. Mac is all he needs... I just finished a huge website for a customer today, glad I had my PC with Dreamweaver, Flash, Jasc, etc... |
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On 2/11/14, 4:11 AM, KC wrote:
Sigh. Yet more problems for Windozes users. Meanwhile, an Apple software developer called me this morning to let me know he'd be emailing me a small test program which he thinks will take care of a minor glitch I had with a bit of hardware. Oh, he was in North Carolina and spoke "Americanese." And what did I pay for my copy of Apple Mavericks OS that I installed on my laptop? Why...nothing. Thank you, Microsoft. This get's funnier and funnier every time.. Now you have a personal tech guy just to fix a "minor glitch" (aka, lobsta boat) on your "hardware" (also lobsta boat)... I have been running my machine for years. Got a video card changed a couple years back, still doing fine. Today I was at a client running Paint shop Pro, Dreamweaver, Macromedia Flash Maker, Any video converter, Firefox, Chrome, a text editor, and downloading movies from the customer computer.... all at the same time while hooked up to a verison wireless router and doing live edits to his website adding video and photos... .. No crashes.. I just don't see what the big deal is with you guys... Ahh, but you see, Apple products come with first-rate customer care. When I couldn't get my Canon camera to link up properly over WiFi with my new iMac, no matter what I did, I called AppleCare and the case was assigned to one of its contract developers, who made some suggestions and when they didn't work, he escalated it to a workgroup, a member of whom called me and emailed a utility to me that Apple has to download and transmit certain files from my machine. It took two days for the tech to get back to me with a file he emailed and I loaded. Solved the problem. But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." Have a nice day. Now, I know the great Windoze gurus here could have solved the problem as easily as a roomful of monkeys sitting at typewriters could write Joyce's Ulysses, right, because the gurus here are so up to date and experienced in coding contemporary software that interfaces with Apple's OS. Right? -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
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On 2/11/2014 6:55 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
Now, I know the great Windoze gurus here could have solved the problem as easily as a roomful of monkeys sitting at typewriters could write Joyce's Ulysses, right, because the gurus here are so up to date and experienced in coding contemporary software that interfaces with Apple's OS. Right? -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. You are such an asshat. Remember that name given to you by the moderator of Maryland Shooters forum. Did you ever get reinstated after they so hastily booted you off? Moderated forums, gotta love em. |
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On 2/11/14, 7:27 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... Ahh, but you see, Apple products come with first-rate customer care. When I couldn't get my Canon camera to link up properly over WiFi with my new iMac, no matter what I did, I called AppleCare and the case was assigned to one of its contract developers, who made some suggestions and when they didn't work, he escalated it to a workgroup, a member of whom called me and emailed a utility to me that Apple has to download and transmit certain files from my machine. It took two days for the tech to get back to me with a file he emailed and I loaded. Solved the problem. But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." Have a nice day. Now, I know the great Windoze gurus here could have solved the problem as easily as a roomful of monkeys sitting at typewriters could write Joyce's Ulysses, right, because the gurus here are so up to date and experienced in coding contemporary software that interfaces with Apple's OS. Right? Sounds like a real cluster**** - tech support emailing a "fix" for a problem. You're missing the point being made. Most likely Canon provided Microsoft with drivers that work. Those driver are included in Win 7. Or the drivers that came with the camera work on Win 7. XP is old. Hell, Win 7 is about 5 years old. I don't know why it should take a phone tech and then a "workgroup" to make your camera properly work with your iMac. The more you talk about "Applecare," the less attractive Apple seems to me. All I'm hearing is "Applecare." That's tech support. Most people don't enjoy calling tech support, under any names. Ahh, thank you for your snarky contribution to the wrecked.bloats body of useful knowledge. The "drivers" on my Mac worked properly but sporadically with the camera. No other devices I connect with Wi Fi were having problems. There are limited numbers of settings to try from this end. So, I called Mac and they came up with a solution that worked. Have a nice day. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
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On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:02:46 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
The "drivers" on my Mac worked properly but sporadically with the camera. No other devices I connect with Wi Fi were having problems. There are limited numbers of settings to try from this end. So, I called Mac and they came up with a solution that worked. Might want to re-read that first sentence. The fact that it worked "sporadically" means, by definition, it did *not* work "properly". And the fact that Apple (not Canon) had to come up with a fix means it was buggy Apple software. Have a nice day. I will. :-) |
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On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:04:58 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/11/14, 7:50 AM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 02:22:55 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 19:59:49 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Who "codes" their own device drivers? The driver typically comes with the device, is already installed in Windows or can be easily found on-line. I've noticed that more often than not (especially on the Win7 machine) that when I hook up a new device ... like the flatbed scanner ... Windows automatically detects and loads the driver if it happens to exist in the device ... or automatically finds the appropriate one (I assume on the 'net) and installs it. I haven't used a CD supplied with a device for a long time to load a driver. Plug and Play and it works. Being a "hobbyist" I have a lot of experience with drivers, like starting with a box of junk parts and trying to find the drivers to get it going on DOS 6.3 or W/98. Sometimes I am working backward from the numbers on the chips trying to figure out if someone beside the maker of the board or card I have wrote a driver for that chip set. I have had fairly good luck. As long as it is XP, the drivers are easy to get. One disturbing thing is those old "free" driver sites like driver guide make you jump through hoops now and they usually try to get you to download some spyware laden spam generator ... or worse. I am getting to the point that I just don't use them and stick with manufacturer sites, even if it is not the one that made the part I have. Dell is a fairly good resource because they incorporated so many different chip sets in their stuff but figuring out which product to use can be tough if you don't actually have the Dell "magic code number" in question. It can be quite the detective job sometimes and I end up with a lot of the wrong drivers,. A good trick is to image your drive at the first good boot before you start loading strange drivers. Find the ones that work, then set the wayback machine to when you did that boot so you don't have the remnants of weird drivers out there. I always build a good disk with all the drivers for every machine I build, then copy it to the D: drive on that machine so next time, it goes easy. I also started putting a listing of everything I know about the drivers in the disk box (chip set etc) . I hate looking twice for the same driver. Maybe I've been lucky. I've not searched for a driver for at least ten years. Where would you look? Under the couch? In the past at the manufacturer's web sites. Now - probably the same place, if Windows XP couldn't find them. Do you store software under your couch? |
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On 2/11/14, 9:01 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... Sounds like a real cluster**** - tech support emailing a "fix" for a problem. You're missing the point being made. Most likely Canon provided Microsoft with drivers that work. Those driver are included in Win 7. Or the drivers that came with the camera work on Win 7. XP is old. Hell, Win 7 is about 5 years old. I don't know why it should take a phone tech and then a "workgroup" to make your camera properly work with your iMac. The more you talk about "Applecare," the less attractive Apple seems to me. All I'm hearing is "Applecare." That's tech support. Most people don't enjoy calling tech support, under any names. Ahh, thank you for your snarky contribution to the wrecked.bloats body of useful knowledge. Nothing "snarky" at all there. Sorry you're having problems with your iMac. I'm not having problems. I had a minor, annoying glitch with a camera. It's been resolved. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
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In article , says...
On 2/11/14, 9:01 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... Sounds like a real cluster**** - tech support emailing a "fix" for a problem. You're missing the point being made. Most likely Canon provided Microsoft with drivers that work. Those driver are included in Win 7. Or the drivers that came with the camera work on Win 7. XP is old. Hell, Win 7 is about 5 years old. I don't know why it should take a phone tech and then a "workgroup" to make your camera properly work with your iMac. The more you talk about "Applecare," the less attractive Apple seems to me. All I'm hearing is "Applecare." That's tech support. Most people don't enjoy calling tech support, under any names. Ahh, thank you for your snarky contribution to the wrecked.bloats body of useful knowledge. Nothing "snarky" at all there. Sorry you're having problems with your iMac. I'm not having problems. I had a minor, annoying glitch with a camera. It's been resolved. Good. Happy to hear Applecare fixed your camera. |
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On 2/11/2014 6:55 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 4:11 AM, KC wrote: Sigh. Yet more problems for Windozes users. Meanwhile, an Apple software developer called me this morning to let me know he'd be emailing me a small test program which he thinks will take care of a minor glitch I had with a bit of hardware. Oh, he was in North Carolina and spoke "Americanese." And what did I pay for my copy of Apple Mavericks OS that I installed on my laptop? Why...nothing. Thank you, Microsoft. This get's funnier and funnier every time.. Now you have a personal tech guy just to fix a "minor glitch" (aka, lobsta boat) on your "hardware" (also lobsta boat)... I have been running my machine for years. Got a video card changed a couple years back, still doing fine. Today I was at a client running Paint shop Pro, Dreamweaver, Macromedia Flash Maker, Any video converter, Firefox, Chrome, a text editor, and downloading movies from the customer computer.... all at the same time while hooked up to a verison wireless router and doing live edits to his website adding video and photos... .. No crashes.. I just don't see what the big deal is with you guys... Ahh, but you see, Apple products come with first-rate customer care. When I couldn't get my Canon camera to link up properly over WiFi with my new iMac, no matter what I did, I called AppleCare and the case was assigned to one of its contract developers, who made some suggestions and when they didn't work, he escalated it to a workgroup, a member of whom called me and emailed a utility to me that Apple has to download and transmit certain files from my machine. It took two days for the tech to get back to me with a file he emailed and I loaded. Solved the problem. But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." Have a nice day. Now, I know the great Windoze gurus here could have solved the problem as easily as a roomful of monkeys sitting at typewriters could write Joyce's Ulysses, right, because the gurus here are so up to date and experienced in coding contemporary software that interfaces with Apple's OS. Right? The last time I tried coding software was in the late 1980s. Oh .. I also html coded the original "boats of rec boats" website because canned website building software was just starting to be developed. Since then, I've had no reason or requirement (as a computer user) to "code" anything. Any issues with using an external device with Windows either works fine or has had minor configuration issues to resolve. They don't require writing code or calling Microsoft for a custom written software update. Geeze. You're starting to make me concerned about my iMac. For the price she paid, the damn thing should perform as advertised without having to resort to calling Apple Care or installing custom software patches. |
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