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Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/14, 6:49 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:31:39 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:17 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:07:28 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 10:54 AM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:55:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." That is what you get with the OEM support. Microsoft can give you the right answer if you have a retail key. Oh, right. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, that was my experience with my retail keyed Windozes. I did get more help when I was a Microsoft Windoze beta tester. You must have just been your same charming self you are here and they ****ed you. I'm quite charming. Rec.boats gets the version of me it deserves, though I admit it's difficult keeping up in nastiness with the right-wing snarkasses here. I think I have four or five right-wing snarkasses in my bozo bin, along with our terminally stupid Canadian "Scotty" friend, who may or may not be a right-winger, but definitely is a snarkass. Congratulations. I think you win the award for the most bragging about a filter. Thank you, I am sure. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/2014 4:17 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:07:28 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 10:54 AM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:55:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." That is what you get with the OEM support. Microsoft can give you the right answer if you have a retail key. Oh, right. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, that was my experience with my retail keyed Windozes. I did get more help when I was a Microsoft Windoze beta tester. You must have just been your same charming self you are here and they ****ed you. Yeah, we all remember when he got that beta version of windows weeks before all the other registered beta testers got theirs... snerk |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/14, 6:56 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/11/2014 4:17 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:07:28 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 10:54 AM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:55:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." That is what you get with the OEM support. Microsoft can give you the right answer if you have a retail key. Oh, right. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, that was my experience with my retail keyed Windozes. I did get more help when I was a Microsoft Windoze beta tester. You must have just been your same charming self you are here and they ****ed you. Yeah, we all remember when he got that beta version of windows weeks before all the other registered beta testers got theirs... snerk How would *you* know what categories of beta testers MS had at the time, and when they got their distros? Answer: you wouldn't know. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
Windows XP end of support
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:31:13 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:
On 2/11/14, 6:56 PM, KC wrote: On 2/11/2014 4:17 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:07:28 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 10:54 AM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:55:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." That is what you get with the OEM support. Microsoft can give you the right answer if you have a retail key. Oh, right. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, that was my experience with my retail keyed Windozes. I did get more help when I was a Microsoft Windoze beta tester. You must have just been your same charming self you are here and they ****ed you. Yeah, we all remember when he got that beta version of windows weeks before all the other registered beta testers got theirs... snerk How would *you* know what categories of beta testers MS had at the time, and when they got their distros? Answer: you wouldn't know. Harry, you bragged about it for quite some time, like you do your filters, if you know what I mean. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/14, 7:56 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:31:13 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 6:56 PM, KC wrote: On 2/11/2014 4:17 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:07:28 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 10:54 AM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:55:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." That is what you get with the OEM support. Microsoft can give you the right answer if you have a retail key. Oh, right. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, that was my experience with my retail keyed Windozes. I did get more help when I was a Microsoft Windoze beta tester. You must have just been your same charming self you are here and they ****ed you. Yeah, we all remember when he got that beta version of windows weeks before all the other registered beta testers got theirs... snerk How would *you* know what categories of beta testers MS had at the time, and when they got their distros? Answer: you wouldn't know. Harry, you bragged about it for quite some time, like you do your filters, if you know what I mean. As I stated, how would you know in what order beta testers received their distros. Answer: you wouldn't know. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/2014 8:16 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:22:36 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 PM, wrote: I finally gave up on the idea because you are going to be replacing all the capacitors before you start. I am using commercial in dash players now and they all suck, including the $1000 one in the Lincoln. You spent $1000 to get a music player in your car? Really? Gosh, I just use a $10 cable to plug an iPhone or iPod into the car stereo. I guess that Vega you have doesn't have a factory sound system with an MP3 player, 6 pack CD, Nav and blue tooth to your phone. Take a ride in your wife's car sometime. A grand is really not much for the entertainment system upgrade on a nice car. If I was an Apple guy I would say it was free since it was bundled in the price of a trim package in the Lincoln but that unit was $900 and change if you put it in your F150. Can you talk to your Ipod (and does it listen?). Does it mute and switch over to the phone on command or when you have an incoming call? Does it bluetooth to your smart phone so you can listen to web casts? Hold on for a bit there Gregg. He has to check with AppleCare. :-) |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/14, 8:16 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:22:36 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 PM, wrote: I finally gave up on the idea because you are going to be replacing all the capacitors before you start. I am using commercial in dash players now and they all suck, including the $1000 one in the Lincoln. You spent $1000 to get a music player in your car? Really? Gosh, I just use a $10 cable to plug an iPhone or iPod into the car stereo. I guess that Vega you have doesn't have a factory sound system with an MP3 player, 6 pack CD, Nav and blue tooth to your phone. Actually, my car has all of that, sans the 6 pack CD player. I prefer the separate garmin nav device, and I also have 3 nav apps on my iphone, including garmin usa. My iPhone also has 4000+ tunes on it, a tad more than you can squeeze onto six CDs. My wife's car has a similar package, but she also prefers the Garmin device even though she has similar capability on her iphone Take a ride in your wife's car sometime. A grand is really not much for the entertainment system upgrade on a nice car. If I was an Apple guy I would say it was free since it was bundled in the price of a trim package in the Lincoln but that unit was $900 and change if you put it in your F150. Can you talk to your Ipod (and does it listen?). Does it mute and switch over to the phone on command or when you have an incoming call? Does it bluetooth to your smart phone so you can listen to web casts? I can talk to my iphone and it talks back. I don't accept incoming calls when I am driving, unless it is my wife...and I don't listen to web casts. We don't drive long distances. The longest car trips lately have been to Virginia Beach and the OBX. Was in NYC for two days last month, took the train up and back. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/14, 8:41 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 18:56:32 -0500, KC wrote: On 2/11/2014 4:17 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:07:28 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 10:54 AM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:55:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." That is what you get with the OEM support. Microsoft can give you the right answer if you have a retail key. Oh, right. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, that was my experience with my retail keyed Windozes. I did get more help when I was a Microsoft Windoze beta tester. You must have just been your same charming self you are here and they ****ed you. Yeah, we all remember when he got that beta version of windows weeks before all the other registered beta testers got theirs... snerk Anyone who wants to be a beta tester is certainly a hobbyist. Productivity is definitely not their goal. In my years in the data processing business the most productive shops were always at least one release behind. I beta tested on a spare machine. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/14, 8:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 8:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:22:36 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 PM, wrote: I finally gave up on the idea because you are going to be replacing all the capacitors before you start. I am using commercial in dash players now and they all suck, including the $1000 one in the Lincoln. You spent $1000 to get a music player in your car? Really? Gosh, I just use a $10 cable to plug an iPhone or iPod into the car stereo. I guess that Vega you have doesn't have a factory sound system with an MP3 player, 6 pack CD, Nav and blue tooth to your phone. Take a ride in your wife's car sometime. A grand is really not much for the entertainment system upgrade on a nice car. If I was an Apple guy I would say it was free since it was bundled in the price of a trim package in the Lincoln but that unit was $900 and change if you put it in your F150. Can you talk to your Ipod (and does it listen?). Does it mute and switch over to the phone on command or when you have an incoming call? Does it bluetooth to your smart phone so you can listen to web casts? Hold on for a bit there Gregg. He has to check with AppleCare. :-) I'm not adverse to getting good quality tech support when I need it. I'm not, after all, a Luddite. :) -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/2014 9:53 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 8:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/11/2014 8:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:22:36 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 PM, wrote: I finally gave up on the idea because you are going to be replacing all the capacitors before you start. I am using commercial in dash players now and they all suck, including the $1000 one in the Lincoln. You spent $1000 to get a music player in your car? Really? Gosh, I just use a $10 cable to plug an iPhone or iPod into the car stereo. I guess that Vega you have doesn't have a factory sound system with an MP3 player, 6 pack CD, Nav and blue tooth to your phone. Take a ride in your wife's car sometime. A grand is really not much for the entertainment system upgrade on a nice car. If I was an Apple guy I would say it was free since it was bundled in the price of a trim package in the Lincoln but that unit was $900 and change if you put it in your F150. Can you talk to your Ipod (and does it listen?). Does it mute and switch over to the phone on command or when you have an incoming call? Does it bluetooth to your smart phone so you can listen to web casts? Hold on for a bit there Gregg. He has to check with AppleCare. :-) I'm not adverse to getting good quality tech support when I need it. I'm not, after all, a Luddite. :) At least you have a sense of humor, a quality that is becoming somewhat extinct now-a-days. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/14, 10:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 9:53 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/11/14, 8:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/11/2014 8:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:22:36 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 PM, wrote: I finally gave up on the idea because you are going to be replacing all the capacitors before you start. I am using commercial in dash players now and they all suck, including the $1000 one in the Lincoln. You spent $1000 to get a music player in your car? Really? Gosh, I just use a $10 cable to plug an iPhone or iPod into the car stereo. I guess that Vega you have doesn't have a factory sound system with an MP3 player, 6 pack CD, Nav and blue tooth to your phone. Take a ride in your wife's car sometime. A grand is really not much for the entertainment system upgrade on a nice car. If I was an Apple guy I would say it was free since it was bundled in the price of a trim package in the Lincoln but that unit was $900 and change if you put it in your F150. Can you talk to your Ipod (and does it listen?). Does it mute and switch over to the phone on command or when you have an incoming call? Does it bluetooth to your smart phone so you can listen to web casts? Hold on for a bit there Gregg. He has to check with AppleCare. :-) I'm not adverse to getting good quality tech support when I need it. I'm not, after all, a Luddite. :) At least you have a sense of humor, a quality that is becoming somewhat extinct now-a-days. It will serve me well if I get that new job on Chris Christie's staff. :) -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
Windows XP end of support
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:54:03 -0500, HanK wrote:
You are fortunate to have a personal team of experts to help with your issues. Computer issues that is. === We can only hope that he gets help for the "other" issues as well. It has been said however that time wounds all heals, and Harry's time is certainly drawing closer. |
Windows XP end of support
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:40:03 -0800, Bill McKee
wrote: I found out today the Spinning ball of death. Apple equivelent to Blue Screen of Death. Found out how to Force Quit a progam today because of that. Was a Pages problem. Lots of comments on the problem on the Apple Forums. === Why is a smart guy like you playing with a fruit computer? |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/14, 7:58 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:40:03 -0800, Bill McKee wrote: I found out today the Spinning ball of death. Apple equivelent to Blue Screen of Death. Found out how to Force Quit a progam today because of that. Was a Pages problem. Lots of comments on the problem on the Apple Forums. === Why is a smart guy like you playing with a fruit computer? Because my wife liked the compactness / neatness of an all in one. |
Windows XP end of support
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 08:15:29 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote: I'm not having problems. I had a minor, annoying glitch with a camera. It's been resolved. Good. Happy to hear Applecare fixed your camera. === Heh, I think we've got the picture. :-) |
Windows XP end of support
On Sunday, February 9, 2014 11:22:19 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
Who cares? Upgrade, or look like an idiot. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/2014 7:56 PM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:31:13 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 6:56 PM, KC wrote: On 2/11/2014 4:17 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:07:28 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 10:54 AM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:55:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." That is what you get with the OEM support. Microsoft can give you the right answer if you have a retail key. Oh, right. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, that was my experience with my retail keyed Windozes. I did get more help when I was a Microsoft Windoze beta tester. You must have just been your same charming self you are here and they ****ed you. Yeah, we all remember when he got that beta version of windows weeks before all the other registered beta testers got theirs... snerk How would *you* know what categories of beta testers MS had at the time, and when they got their distros? Answer: you wouldn't know. Harry, you bragged about it for quite some time, like you do your filters, if you know what I mean. Yes he did. I remember because a friend was at school getting his CNE and we were talking about it. He was a real Microsoft Beta tester which meant he went to a convention and paid the 300 bucks....:) |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/2014 11:38 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 21:52:46 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 8:41 PM, wrote: Anyone who wants to be a beta tester is certainly a hobbyist. Productivity is definitely not their goal. In my years in the data processing business the most productive shops were always at least one release behind. I beta tested on a spare machine. Like I said, hobbyist. It does make me wonder how much you contributed to the B test if you were not actually doing work on it. Well, I remember when he loaded windows in only a few months...:) |
Windows XP end of support
KC wrote:
On 2/11/2014 7:56 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:31:13 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 6:56 PM, KC wrote: On 2/11/2014 4:17 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:07:28 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 10:54 AM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:55:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." That is what you get with the OEM support. Microsoft can give you the right answer if you have a retail key. Oh, right. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, that was my experience with my retail keyed Windozes. I did get more help when I was a Microsoft Windoze beta tester. You must have just been your same charming self you are here and they ****ed you. Yeah, we all remember when he got that beta version of windows weeks before all the other registered beta testers got theirs... snerk How would *you* know what categories of beta testers MS had at the time, and when they got their distros? Answer: you wouldn't know. Harry, you bragged about it for quite some time, like you do your filters, if you know what I mean. Yes he did. I remember because a friend was at school getting his CNE and we were talking about it. He was a real Microsoft Beta tester which meant he went to a convention and paid the 300 bucks....:) The uninformed shall inherit the earth. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/14, 11:38 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 21:52:46 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 8:41 PM, wrote: Anyone who wants to be a beta tester is certainly a hobbyist. Productivity is definitely not their goal. In my years in the data processing business the most productive shops were always at least one release behind. I beta tested on a spare machine. Like I said, hobbyist. It does make me wonder how much you contributed to the B test if you were not actually doing work on it. Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/14, 11:35 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 21:51:39 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 8:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:22:36 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 PM, wrote: I finally gave up on the idea because you are going to be replacing all the capacitors before you start. I am using commercial in dash players now and they all suck, including the $1000 one in the Lincoln. You spent $1000 to get a music player in your car? Really? Gosh, I just use a $10 cable to plug an iPhone or iPod into the car stereo. I guess that Vega you have doesn't have a factory sound system with an MP3 player, 6 pack CD, Nav and blue tooth to your phone. Actually, my car has all of that, sans the 6 pack CD player. I prefer the separate garmin nav device, and I also have 3 nav apps on my iphone, including garmin usa. My iPhone also has 4000+ tunes on it, a tad more than you can squeeze onto six CDs. I don't think we have actually listened to a CD for 10 years but it is there. This thing has a USB port that will take a 32g thumb drive but you can get more on a 4g than we usually have in a typical play list. I can talk to my iphone and it talks back. I don't accept incoming calls when I am driving, unless it is my wife...and I don't listen to web casts. My wife listens to Bob and Tom on the way to work. It is not broadcast here so she pulls it off the web. It bluetooths from the phone. Everything is hands free on the phone if you do take a call. I think if we were interested in things to do entertainment-wise while in the car, I'd get an iPad Air and a dash mount. You can even make phone calls from an iPad using one of several apps, such as Skype. But we don't often spend more than an hour or two in the car. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
Windows XP end of support
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 20:31:27 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:22:24 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:45 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 11:53:09 -0800, Bill McKee wrote: On 2/11/14, 7:54 AM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:55:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." That is what you get with the OEM support. Microsoft can give you the right answer if you have a retail key. The only time I ever talked to them, they sounded "merican" to me. When I went to Dell (the OEM), I got "Bob from Bombay" who said I had to reload the system. The only reason I called in the first place was that was what the only message I had said to do (registration problems) I ended up figuring it out myself, like I have done for the rest of the 30 years I have been running Wintel products.. I used to talk to MS about problems at times. Both ours and theirs, but the equipment I designed and the test systems, were run on PC's so I was listed as a developer and got direct connection to engineers and not Bob of Bombay. Was not bad service. But we also paid money for the privilege. When I was still working, the best source of information was the old VM Forums. I never had a reason to talk to Microsoft about anything. How wonderful, eh? So therefore you are an expert on Microsoft tech support! I get it. If you keep making things up you can always be right. I clearly stated a couple of times, I only talked to MS support once and they bl;ew me off because my father in law didn't have a retail number ... but he did say he had the magic code I could type in to get past my registration problem if I paid him. It was Dell (the OEM) that said "reload the system" I managed to get it going myself without any of that. I would not have even called them but my FIL wanted me to. I do understand that doing a "slip" install is the easiest way to fix corrupted system files tho and if that is what MS told you to do, that is probably what you had. That install process only refreshes the files and leaves your configuration alone. I just did one a couple days ago because it triggers a complete update from SP3 (the version I used) and I wanted all of those files in one place from a clean load. I would still like to see SP4. I remember that ****! I called one of the support folks, don't remember where, and it was $25 and he would stay until the problem is fixed. I figured by the time they said that they already knew the answer and figured they'd get the money for 15 seconds of work. Never paid it. Figured I'd spend all day on the problem rather than pay someone $25 to fix it over the phone. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/12/2014 6:31 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 11:38 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 21:52:46 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 8:41 PM, wrote: Anyone who wants to be a beta tester is certainly a hobbyist. Productivity is definitely not their goal. In my years in the data processing business the most productive shops were always at least one release behind. I beta tested on a spare machine. Like I said, hobbyist. It does make me wonder how much you contributed to the B test if you were not actually doing work on it. Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates. How much did that job pay? |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/2014 9:53 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/11/14, 8:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/11/2014 8:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:22:36 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 PM, wrote: I finally gave up on the idea because you are going to be replacing all the capacitors before you start. I am using commercial in dash players now and they all suck, including the $1000 one in the Lincoln. You spent $1000 to get a music player in your car? Really? Gosh, I just use a $10 cable to plug an iPhone or iPod into the car stereo. I guess that Vega you have doesn't have a factory sound system with an MP3 player, 6 pack CD, Nav and blue tooth to your phone. Take a ride in your wife's car sometime. A grand is really not much for the entertainment system upgrade on a nice car. If I was an Apple guy I would say it was free since it was bundled in the price of a trim package in the Lincoln but that unit was $900 and change if you put it in your F150. Can you talk to your Ipod (and does it listen?). Does it mute and switch over to the phone on command or when you have an incoming call? Does it bluetooth to your smart phone so you can listen to web casts? Hold on for a bit there Gregg. He has to check with AppleCare. :-) I'm not adverse to getting good quality tech support when I need it. I'm not, after all, a Luddite. :) Real men don't ask for directions. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/2014 10:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/11/2014 9:53 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/11/14, 8:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/11/2014 8:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:22:36 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 PM, wrote: I finally gave up on the idea because you are going to be replacing all the capacitors before you start. I am using commercial in dash players now and they all suck, including the $1000 one in the Lincoln. You spent $1000 to get a music player in your car? Really? Gosh, I just use a $10 cable to plug an iPhone or iPod into the car stereo. I guess that Vega you have doesn't have a factory sound system with an MP3 player, 6 pack CD, Nav and blue tooth to your phone. Take a ride in your wife's car sometime. A grand is really not much for the entertainment system upgrade on a nice car. If I was an Apple guy I would say it was free since it was bundled in the price of a trim package in the Lincoln but that unit was $900 and change if you put it in your F150. Can you talk to your Ipod (and does it listen?). Does it mute and switch over to the phone on command or when you have an incoming call? Does it bluetooth to your smart phone so you can listen to web casts? Hold on for a bit there Gregg. He has to check with AppleCare. :-) I'm not adverse to getting good quality tech support when I need it. I'm not, after all, a Luddite. :) At least you have a sense of humor, a quality that is becoming somewhat extinct now-a-days. Really? I mean REALLY? |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/12/2014 6:12 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
KC wrote: On 2/11/2014 7:56 PM, Poco Loco wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 19:31:13 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 6:56 PM, KC wrote: On 2/11/2014 4:17 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 13:07:28 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 10:54 AM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 06:55:56 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: But, of course, Windows XP is sooooo much mo'betta, and so is the highly touted Microsoft support, so long as you want to deal with guys whose first and second languages ain't English and whose ultimate answer usually is, "Well, just reload windows." That is what you get with the OEM support. Microsoft can give you the right answer if you have a retail key. Oh, right. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, that was my experience with my retail keyed Windozes. I did get more help when I was a Microsoft Windoze beta tester. You must have just been your same charming self you are here and they ****ed you. Yeah, we all remember when he got that beta version of windows weeks before all the other registered beta testers got theirs... snerk How would *you* know what categories of beta testers MS had at the time, and when they got their distros? Answer: you wouldn't know. Harry, you bragged about it for quite some time, like you do your filters, if you know what I mean. Yes he did. I remember because a friend was at school getting his CNE and we were talking about it. He was a real Microsoft Beta tester which meant he went to a convention and paid the 300 bucks....:) The uninformed shall inherit the earth. Seems t be working out that way. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/12/2014 10:20 AM, HanK wrote:
On 2/12/2014 6:31 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/11/14, 11:38 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 21:52:46 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 8:41 PM, wrote: Anyone who wants to be a beta tester is certainly a hobbyist. Productivity is definitely not their goal. In my years in the data processing business the most productive shops were always at least one release behind. I beta tested on a spare machine. Like I said, hobbyist. It does make me wonder how much you contributed to the B test if you were not actually doing work on it. Wonder all you like...or not. I was enough of a "contributor" to be a Windoze beta tester for many years and iterations, starting with the crappy 20-diskette distros and the once a week updates. How much did that job pay? You can get that by going to a Windows Conference or Convention.. Cost my bud 300 bucks for the day and lectures, and he got software from them to "beta test". I remember the business package or net package I think it might have been win 2000 that our buddy here said he got about a month before my friend got it... weeks before it came out..:) |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/12/14, 11:25 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 06:50:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 11:35 PM, wrote: My wife listens to Bob and Tom on the way to work. It is not broadcast here so she pulls it off the web. It bluetooths from the phone. Everything is hands free on the phone if you do take a call. I think if we were interested in things to do entertainment-wise while in the car, I'd get an iPad Air and a dash mount. You can even make phone calls from an iPad using one of several apps, such as Skype. But we don't often spend more than an hour or two in the car. I don't think she was interested in duct taping some other piece of hardware to the dash and having cables running around. There is something to be said about a clean factory installed unit. I'm sure among the next iterations will be a blue tooth connect to the car speakers. And there are some nice looking mounts I've seen that help avoid the duct tape look. Not anything that concerns us, though, since we aren't much into in-car entertainment or calls to or from the driver. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/12/2014 11:31 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 2/12/14, 11:25 AM, wrote: On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 06:50:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 11:35 PM, wrote: My wife listens to Bob and Tom on the way to work. It is not broadcast here so she pulls it off the web. It bluetooths from the phone. Everything is hands free on the phone if you do take a call. I think if we were interested in things to do entertainment-wise while in the car, I'd get an iPad Air and a dash mount. You can even make phone calls from an iPad using one of several apps, such as Skype. But we don't often spend more than an hour or two in the car. I don't think she was interested in duct taping some other piece of hardware to the dash and having cables running around. There is something to be said about a clean factory installed unit. I'm sure among the next iterations will be a blue tooth connect to the car speakers. And there are some nice looking mounts I've seen that help avoid the duct tape look. Not anything that concerns us, though, since we aren't much into in-car entertainment or calls to or from the driver. I don't even listen to the radio when driving. I find it distracting. Someone in my family gave me a Sirius receiver back when I was making the long drives back and forth to Florida. I think I used it once for about an hour before shutting it off and never bothered with it again. The very rare times that I drive any distance I much prefer to watch the scenery or what's happening around the vehicle. Weird, but that's the way it is. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/12/2014 11:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/12/2014 11:31 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote: On 2/12/14, 11:25 AM, wrote: On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 06:50:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 11:35 PM, wrote: My wife listens to Bob and Tom on the way to work. It is not broadcast here so she pulls it off the web. It bluetooths from the phone. Everything is hands free on the phone if you do take a call. I think if we were interested in things to do entertainment-wise while in the car, I'd get an iPad Air and a dash mount. You can even make phone calls from an iPad using one of several apps, such as Skype. But we don't often spend more than an hour or two in the car. I don't think she was interested in duct taping some other piece of hardware to the dash and having cables running around. There is something to be said about a clean factory installed unit. I'm sure among the next iterations will be a blue tooth connect to the car speakers. And there are some nice looking mounts I've seen that help avoid the duct tape look. Not anything that concerns us, though, since we aren't much into in-car entertainment or calls to or from the driver. I don't even listen to the radio when driving. I find it distracting. Someone in my family gave me a Sirius receiver back when I was making the long drives back and forth to Florida. I think I used it once for about an hour before shutting it off and never bothered with it again. The very rare times that I drive any distance I much prefer to watch the scenery or what's happening around the vehicle. Weird, but that's the way it is. I just have a little box I plug into my mp3, or phone, or whatever device I have and it shoots a signal to my car system... I have about 90 hours of music on my mp3 player, I pretty much leave it on all the time. Great at races and stuff camping on weekends... No ads, no dud songs...:) |
Windows XP end of support
Sirius?
My first experience with that service was last spring when we bought the new Highlander. We were provided with 3 free months and I really liked listening to the 1960's music. I don't spend enough time in the vehicle most of the year but if I could get a deal on 5 months (June to October), I'd go for it. Up here it would be around $18. per month taxes in. |
Windows XP end of support
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:02:37 -0500, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:31:33 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/12/14, 11:25 AM, wrote: On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 06:50:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 11:35 PM, wrote: My wife listens to Bob and Tom on the way to work. It is not broadcast here so she pulls it off the web. It bluetooths from the phone. Everything is hands free on the phone if you do take a call. I think if we were interested in things to do entertainment-wise while in the car, I'd get an iPad Air and a dash mount. You can even make phone calls from an iPad using one of several apps, such as Skype. But we don't often spend more than an hour or two in the car. I don't think she was interested in duct taping some other piece of hardware to the dash and having cables running around. There is something to be said about a clean factory installed unit. I'm sure among the next iterations will be a blue tooth connect to the car speakers. And there are some nice looking mounts I've seen that help avoid the duct tape look. Not anything that concerns us, though, since we aren't much into in-car entertainment or calls to or from the driver. Next iteration of what? Bluetooth is established technology. Are you saying Apple can't bluetooth to your car system? Judy starts up her Bob and Tom on the phone and it comes out the car speakers as soon as she gets in the car. Once you have set up the connection (swap magic codes) it happens as soon as it sees the phone in range. That is actually about 20 feet away. If I am driving her car and she is walking up, the radio starts connecting before she gets there. (I see a prompt on the display) Same with my wife's new VW. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/11/14, 8:35 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 21:51:39 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 8:16 PM, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:22:36 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 PM, wrote: I finally gave up on the idea because you are going to be replacing all the capacitors before you start. I am using commercial in dash players now and they all suck, including the $1000 one in the Lincoln. You spent $1000 to get a music player in your car? Really? Gosh, I just use a $10 cable to plug an iPhone or iPod into the car stereo. I guess that Vega you have doesn't have a factory sound system with an MP3 player, 6 pack CD, Nav and blue tooth to your phone. Actually, my car has all of that, sans the 6 pack CD player. I prefer the separate garmin nav device, and I also have 3 nav apps on my iphone, including garmin usa. My iPhone also has 4000+ tunes on it, a tad more than you can squeeze onto six CDs. I don't think we have actually listened to a CD for 10 years but it is there. This thing has a USB port that will take a 32g thumb drive but you can get more on a 4g than we usually have in a typical play list. I can talk to my iphone and it talks back. I don't accept incoming calls when I am driving, unless it is my wife...and I don't listen to web casts. My wife listens to Bob and Tom on the way to work. It is not broadcast here so she pulls it off the web. It bluetooths from the phone. Everything is hands free on the phone if you do take a call. Problem, at least out west and likely in remote Florida, is the Nav App on the phones do not work if you do not have 3G or 4G connectivity. I installed an Alpine nav system in my truck when the CD changer went bad. Will take an Ipod or USB device also, besides CD's. we still play CD's as wife likes the books on CD and I do not have to put them on a flash drive for the times we listen to them. |
Windows XP end of support
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Windows XP end of support
On 2/12/2014 12:32 PM, True North wrote:
Sirius? My first experience with that service was last spring when we bought the new Highlander. We were provided with 3 free months and I really liked listening to the 1960's music. I don't spend enough time in the vehicle most of the year but if I could get a deal on 5 months (June to October), I'd go for it. Up here it would be around $18. per month taxes in. When I first subscribed (it was many years ago) they had an option to pay a one time charge of something like $50 or something for a lifetime subscription. I think they were trying to build a user base. I did that. I took the receiver and antenna out of the car or truck or whatever I had it in and put it in the house for a while, powered by a small 12 volt power supply. I hooked it up to my stereo system and used it occasionally that way. The black antenna thing is still sitting outside on a railing on a porch. I haven't seen the receiver in years. I guess if I could find it I technically should still be able to use it, but I don't have any interest in it. Didn't Sirius and some other satellite entertainment service merge not too long ago? |
Windows XP end of support
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:16:16 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:22:36 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 PM, wrote: I finally gave up on the idea because you are going to be replacing all the capacitors before you start. I am using commercial in dash players now and they all suck, including the $1000 one in the Lincoln. You spent $1000 to get a music player in your car? Really? Gosh, I just use a $10 cable to plug an iPhone or iPod into the car stereo. I guess that Vega you have doesn't have a factory sound system with an MP3 player, 6 pack CD, Nav and blue tooth to your phone. Take a ride in your wife's car sometime. A grand is really not much for the entertainment system upgrade on a nice car. If I was an Apple guy I would say it was free since it was bundled in the price of a trim package in the Lincoln but that unit was $900 and change if you put it in your F150. Can you talk to your Ipod (and does it listen?). Does it mute and switch over to the phone on command or when you have an incoming call? Does it bluetooth to your smart phone so you can listen to web casts? The wife's LS460 has the Mark Levinson sound system in it. Not cheap, but awesome. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/12/14, 9:32 AM, True North wrote:
Sirius? My first experience with that service was last spring when we bought the new Highlander. We were provided with 3 free months and I really liked listening to the 1960's music. I don't spend enough time in the vehicle most of the year but if I could get a deal on 5 months (June to October), I'd go for it. Up here it would be around $18. per month taxes in. After awhile, they will offer you a better deal. |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/12/2014 1:03 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:16:16 PM UTC-5, wrote: On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 16:22:36 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 4:11 PM, wrote: I finally gave up on the idea because you are going to be replacing all the capacitors before you start. I am using commercial in dash players now and they all suck, including the $1000 one in the Lincoln. You spent $1000 to get a music player in your car? Really? Gosh, I just use a $10 cable to plug an iPhone or iPod into the car stereo. I guess that Vega you have doesn't have a factory sound system with an MP3 player, 6 pack CD, Nav and blue tooth to your phone. Take a ride in your wife's car sometime. A grand is really not much for the entertainment system upgrade on a nice car. If I was an Apple guy I would say it was free since it was bundled in the price of a trim package in the Lincoln but that unit was $900 and change if you put it in your F150. Can you talk to your Ipod (and does it listen?). Does it mute and switch over to the phone on command or when you have an incoming call? Does it bluetooth to your smart phone so you can listen to web casts? The wife's LS460 has the Mark Levinson sound system in it. Not cheap, but awesome. Can it do this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc_LWWgPi0E |
Windows XP end of support
On 2/12/14, 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 11:31:33 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/12/14, 11:25 AM, wrote: On Wed, 12 Feb 2014 06:50:19 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 2/11/14, 11:35 PM, wrote: My wife listens to Bob and Tom on the way to work. It is not broadcast here so she pulls it off the web. It bluetooths from the phone. Everything is hands free on the phone if you do take a call. I think if we were interested in things to do entertainment-wise while in the car, I'd get an iPad Air and a dash mount. You can even make phone calls from an iPad using one of several apps, such as Skype. But we don't often spend more than an hour or two in the car. I don't think she was interested in duct taping some other piece of hardware to the dash and having cables running around. There is something to be said about a clean factory installed unit. I'm sure among the next iterations will be a blue tooth connect to the car speakers. And there are some nice looking mounts I've seen that help avoid the duct tape look. Not anything that concerns us, though, since we aren't much into in-car entertainment or calls to or from the driver. Next iteration of what? Bluetooth is established technology. Are you saying Apple can't bluetooth to your car system? Judy starts up her Bob and Tom on the phone and it comes out the car speakers as soon as she gets in the car. Once you have set up the connection (swap magic codes) it happens as soon as it sees the phone in range. That is actually about 20 feet away. If I am driving her car and she is walking up, the radio starts connecting before she gets there. (I see a prompt on the display) I dunno, because I've never tried that. As I said, we're not much into in-car entertainment. -- Sarah Palin is watching the Sochi Olympic Games from the front porch of her house. |
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