On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 11:19:50 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Heroin is actually not a really bad 'hard' drug.

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My oldest son once came home and said something like that. I told
him it was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard him say. The problem
with heroin is its extraordinarily addictive quality that never seems
to let go once a user is hooked.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 11:19:50 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Heroin is actually not a really bad 'hard' drug.

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My oldest son once came home and said something like that. I told
him it was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard him say. The problem
with heroin is its extraordinarily addictive quality that never seems
to let go once a user is hooked.

True on the addiction. But a heroin addict can lead a productive life.
Now we just have subsidized heroin addiction, free methadone. Meth an
those drugs, no productive life. Side effect of Meth is paranoia. How
many of these mass shooting perps were Meth abusers? My fishing partner is
a retired cop. Was an investigator for the state AG. He said they always
hated taking down a Meth Lab. Drug dealers are paranoid to start with, and
then add in lots of firearms and a drug induced paranoia and things can go
bad. He ended up retired before he wanted to, as broke a knee in a drug
raid.

On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 13:20:07 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 11:19:50 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Heroin is actually not a really bad 'hard' drug.

===

My oldest son once came home and said something like that. I told
him it was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard him say. The problem
with heroin is its extraordinarily addictive quality that never seems
to let go once a user is hooked.

True on the addiction. But a heroin addict can lead a productive life.
Now we just have subsidized heroin addiction, free methadone.

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Have you ever seen methadone users waiting outside a clinic for it to
open? I have. They look like walking dead, all zoned out with no
life to their eyes or expression. Not a good way to go through life.
It's basically trading one addiction for another and apparently heroin
is a much better high.

On 2/7/2014 2:01 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 11:19:50 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Heroin is actually not a really bad 'hard' drug.

===

My oldest son once came home and said something like that. I told
him it was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard him say. The problem
with heroin is its extraordinarily addictive quality that never seems
to let go once a user is hooked.


Jessi and I won't do any opiate, even for pain. She knows... She did one
from a doctor a year ago and still swears she thinks about how great it
felt, even now..... because of that and seeing so many of our friends in
Essex go down the tubes over it, she won't even do pain killers for
injury... me either...