On 11/22/13, 9:49 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:35 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 9:27 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 7:26 AM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 20:44:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 11/21/2013 7:39 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:51:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/21/2013 5:38 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:19:19 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:12:55 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 07:13:17 -0500, John H

wrote:

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:44:26 -0500, wrote:


A lot of IE is actually resident in Windoze.

That would help explain it. I've learned patience when it
comes
to Firefox.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


There must be something else going on. I get the browser window
in a
second or so every time. I wonder if there is some spyware
program
that is loading too. Look at your plug ins

Here they a

Adobe Acrobat
McAfee Site Advisor
Quick Time
Shockwave Flash
Silverlight
Windows Presentation Foundation

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


The only addons I see is Logitech Device Detection and my virus
scanner.



I am no expert but based on previous experience, if I were John
I'd
dump
McAfee and substitute it with AVG.

I used to have McAfee as a anti-virus program but it slowed the
computer
I had at the time down. Not as bad as Norton, but still
consumed a
lot
of resources. I've been using AVG now for over four years and
like it
a lot. Doesn't seem to affect the computer speed and works just
fine.


I don't use McAfee as an anti-virus program. The site advisor is a
separate plug-in.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



It's still a McAfee program running in the background checking the
websites you visit to see if there's a record of malware, viruses,
etc.

I had it. I got rid of it and my computer ran much faster and
smoother.
As Greg said, McAfee is a virus unto itself, much like Norton
used to
be.

It was on the XP laptop that I have but no longer use, BTW. Someone
recommended AVG and I've used it ever since. The only time it
has an
affect on computer speed is when you have initiated a full scan of
your
computer. What's nice about it however is that you can set a
priority
from "user sensitive" which allows you to continue to use the
computer
for other things while it scans with little to no affect on computer
speed to "Fast" which is good if you are not going to use the
computer
for a while.

I used the free version for two years and liked it so much that I
upgraded to the full version. Frankly, I think the free version was
sufficient for protection. AVG will also block or alert you to a
suspicious website also, like McAfee. It just doesn't bog your
computer
down doing so.



I'll give it a shot, thanks. Cox sent free McAfee to all its
subscribers. I've undone the McAfee
virus scan, but left the site advisor. Will shut it down and see what
happens.

An IT friend convinced me to can McAfee and go with the Microsoft
Security Essentials, which is what
I've done.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




John, again, I am far from being a computer expert but I know it is
generally *not* recommended to have two virus protection programs
running on your computer at the same time. You may have turned off
the
routine McAfee virus scan of the hard drive but if you left "site
adviser" running it means that McAfee is still installed and running.
It could possibly conflict with the Microsoft Security Essentials.
You
might want to read this:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/securitytipstalk/archive/2011/06/02/does-microsoft-security-essentials-work-with-other-antivirus-software.aspx








McAfee was the clown the Repubs brought in as their expert
consultant on
the ACA software. I thought that was hilarious...a possible murderer
and
perpetrator of virii and spyware who would love to insert a backdoor
into a federal government computer network.



John McAfee has nothing to do with the current McAfee, Inc. other than
sharing his name since he was the founder. He resigned from the company
in 1994 and McAfee, Inc. is currently a wholly owned subsidiary of
Intel.




Did I say he was still involved with McAfee? No, I did not.

Well, at least Peter Norton stayed intellectually honest after he sold
out to Symantec, which proceeded to ruin his products.



No, you did not however we were discussing the McAfee computer program,
not the antics of John McAfee who has nothing to do with the program
under discussion. *You* attempted to make the connection in another of
your politically biased jabs.



If I were Intel, I'd change the name of that program to something that
doesn't conjure up a possible murderer. They could call it...oh, "the OJ
Suite," or "the Zimmerman Solution."

BTW, I used to use a Windows music program called foobar2000. It's been
kept up to date and has what I consider a nice interface:

http://www.foobar2000.org/

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/22/2013 9:40 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:16 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 8:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 7:33 AM, John H wrote:


My wife convinced me to get iTunes. Biggest boo-boo I've made. She
even gave me iTunes gift cards.
But, iTunes gets to be all-consuming. Now it's gone. If I want new
music on my Ipod (or whatever the
little thing's called) I just ask her to sync it with her Bluegrass.
Mostly I just leave it alone.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




Yeah, I have a super duper iPad with all the bells and whistles and
maximum memory. I bought it back when I had the guitar shop and we'd
leave it out on a table so customers could check guitar prices, etc. by
having it display the shop's website. I'd also occasionally transfer
mp3 backing tracks from my PC to it (using iTunes) and plug the iPad
into the stage PA system for "jam" sessions. Now it sits unused in my
house, collecting dust.



iTunes is all-consuming? What kind of ignorant nonsense talk is that?

He's trying to say it will run your life if you submit to it,
which,apparently, you have.


Yeah, we have an ITunes user here in our home.. Sucks for her, none of
her music runs on the usual music delivery systems (mp3) we run in the
camp site....

On 11/22/13, 9:54 AM, KC wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:40 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:16 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 8:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 7:33 AM, John H wrote:


My wife convinced me to get iTunes. Biggest boo-boo I've made. She
even gave me iTunes gift cards.
But, iTunes gets to be all-consuming. Now it's gone. If I want new
music on my Ipod (or whatever the
little thing's called) I just ask her to sync it with her Bluegrass.
Mostly I just leave it alone.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




Yeah, I have a super duper iPad with all the bells and whistles and
maximum memory. I bought it back when I had the guitar shop and we'd
leave it out on a table so customers could check guitar prices, etc. by
having it display the shop's website. I'd also occasionally transfer
mp3 backing tracks from my PC to it (using iTunes) and plug the iPad
into the stage PA system for "jam" sessions. Now it sits unused in my
house, collecting dust.



iTunes is all-consuming? What kind of ignorant nonsense talk is that?

He's trying to say it will run your life if you submit to it,
which,apparently, you have.


Yeah, we have an ITunes user here in our home.. Sucks for her, none of
her music runs on the usual music delivery systems (mp3) we run in the
camp site....


Your ignorance is blissful.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/22/2013 9:32 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 7:26 AM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 20:44:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/21/2013 7:39 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:51:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/21/2013 5:38 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:19:19 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:12:55 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 07:13:17 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:44:26 -0500, wrote:


A lot of IE is actually resident in Windoze.

That would help explain it. I've learned patience when it comes
to Firefox.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


There must be something else going on. I get the browser window
in a
second or so every time. I wonder if there is some spyware
program
that is loading too. Look at your plug ins

Here they a

Adobe Acrobat
McAfee Site Advisor
Quick Time
Shockwave Flash
Silverlight
Windows Presentation Foundation

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


The only addons I see is Logitech Device Detection and my virus
scanner.



I am no expert but based on previous experience, if I were John I'd
dump
McAfee and substitute it with AVG.

I used to have McAfee as a anti-virus program but it slowed the
computer
I had at the time down. Not as bad as Norton, but still consumed a
lot
of resources. I've been using AVG now for over four years and
like it
a lot. Doesn't seem to affect the computer speed and works just
fine.


I don't use McAfee as an anti-virus program. The site advisor is a
separate plug-in.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



It's still a McAfee program running in the background checking the
websites you visit to see if there's a record of malware, viruses,
etc.

I had it. I got rid of it and my computer ran much faster and
smoother.
As Greg said, McAfee is a virus unto itself, much like Norton used to
be.

It was on the XP laptop that I have but no longer use, BTW. Someone
recommended AVG and I've used it ever since. The only time it has an
affect on computer speed is when you have initiated a full scan of
your
computer. What's nice about it however is that you can set a priority
from "user sensitive" which allows you to continue to use the computer
for other things while it scans with little to no affect on computer
speed to "Fast" which is good if you are not going to use the
computer
for a while.

I used the free version for two years and liked it so much that I
upgraded to the full version. Frankly, I think the free version was
sufficient for protection. AVG will also block or alert you to a
suspicious website also, like McAfee. It just doesn't bog your
computer
down doing so.



I'll give it a shot, thanks. Cox sent free McAfee to all its
subscribers. I've undone the McAfee
virus scan, but left the site advisor. Will shut it down and see what
happens.

An IT friend convinced me to can McAfee and go with the Microsoft
Security Essentials, which is what
I've done.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




John, again, I am far from being a computer expert but I know it is
generally *not* recommended to have two virus protection programs
running on your computer at the same time. You may have turned off the
routine McAfee virus scan of the hard drive but if you left "site
adviser" running it means that McAfee is still installed and running.
It could possibly conflict with the Microsoft Security Essentials. You
might want to read this:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/securitytipstalk/archive/2011/06/02/does-microsoft-security-essentials-work-with-other-antivirus-software.aspx






McAfee was the clown the Repubs brought in as their expert consultant on
the ACA software. I thought that was hilarious...a possible murderer and
perpetrator of virii and spyware who would love to insert a backdoor
into a federal government computer network.

Which antivirus software is your I-Etch-a-sketch running. Inquiring
minds really don't G A S. ;-)


Is harry really trying to bring up who the repubs brought in? We all
know who Michelle Obummer brought it, and that bitch failed to the tune
of a half billion dollars.... and we still don't have a website...

A group of programmers put up a site last week that will show you what
you will spend on Obummercare, they built it over a weekend, in three
days...

On 11/22/2013 9:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:16 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 8:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 7:33 AM, John H wrote:


My wife convinced me to get iTunes. Biggest boo-boo I've made. She
even gave me iTunes gift cards.
But, iTunes gets to be all-consuming. Now it's gone. If I want new
music on my Ipod (or whatever the
little thing's called) I just ask her to sync it with her Bluegrass.
Mostly I just leave it alone.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




Yeah, I have a super duper iPad with all the bells and whistles and
maximum memory. I bought it back when I had the guitar shop and we'd
leave it out on a table so customers could check guitar prices, etc. by
having it display the shop's website. I'd also occasionally transfer
mp3 backing tracks from my PC to it (using iTunes) and plug the iPad
into the stage PA system for "jam" sessions. Now it sits unused in my
house, collecting dust.



iTunes is all-consuming? What kind of ignorant nonsense talk is that?


I don't think it's "all consuming" but I think it's annoying that you
*have* to have it installed and use it to transfer stuff from your PC to
an Apple device like the iPad. If iTunes is installed on your computer
it regularly knocks on your door looking to be updated or offering other
services I am not interested in. That's why my iPad now sits, unused.

That's another thing ... Seems like every couple of weeks when I *did*
use it, it wanted to update it's OS, a process that seemed to take
forever.

Seems to me that Apple used to be a sorta cool, technology driven
company but has shifted to being totally marketing/sales driven in
recent years.


Apple updates its software from time to time. So does Microsoft. I can't
recall being "offered" other services from Apple other than by email.



The Microsoft Windows updates are mostly security related and don't
radically change how your computer looks, feels or acts. The iPad OS
updates are like starting all over again, similar to when you first
bought and used it. It also asks for you Apple ID and password each
time, which I can never remember because I rarely use anything Apple.

The last time I updated the OS on the iPad (about a month an a half
ago) I wasn't sure it was even going to run and the screen looked
totally different when it finally finished.

I guess I am just used to PCs and Window operating systems. Apple used
to have a reputation of being simple and intuitive in it's use. Not so
much anymore, IMO.

On 11/22/13, 9:57 AM, KC wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:32 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:15 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 7:26 AM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 20:44:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/21/2013 7:39 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:51:28 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/21/2013 5:38 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:19:19 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:12:55 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 07:13:17 -0500, John H

wrote:

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:44:26 -0500, wrote:


A lot of IE is actually resident in Windoze.

That would help explain it. I've learned patience when it comes
to Firefox.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


There must be something else going on. I get the browser window
in a
second or so every time. I wonder if there is some spyware
program
that is loading too. Look at your plug ins

Here they a

Adobe Acrobat
McAfee Site Advisor
Quick Time
Shockwave Flash
Silverlight
Windows Presentation Foundation

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


The only addons I see is Logitech Device Detection and my virus
scanner.



I am no expert but based on previous experience, if I were John I'd
dump
McAfee and substitute it with AVG.

I used to have McAfee as a anti-virus program but it slowed the
computer
I had at the time down. Not as bad as Norton, but still consumed a
lot
of resources. I've been using AVG now for over four years and
like it
a lot. Doesn't seem to affect the computer speed and works just
fine.


I don't use McAfee as an anti-virus program. The site advisor is a
separate plug-in.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!



It's still a McAfee program running in the background checking the
websites you visit to see if there's a record of malware, viruses,
etc.

I had it. I got rid of it and my computer ran much faster and
smoother.
As Greg said, McAfee is a virus unto itself, much like Norton used to
be.

It was on the XP laptop that I have but no longer use, BTW. Someone
recommended AVG and I've used it ever since. The only time it has an
affect on computer speed is when you have initiated a full scan of
your
computer. What's nice about it however is that you can set a
priority
from "user sensitive" which allows you to continue to use the
computer
for other things while it scans with little to no affect on computer
speed to "Fast" which is good if you are not going to use the
computer
for a while.

I used the free version for two years and liked it so much that I
upgraded to the full version. Frankly, I think the free version was
sufficient for protection. AVG will also block or alert you to a
suspicious website also, like McAfee. It just doesn't bog your
computer
down doing so.



I'll give it a shot, thanks. Cox sent free McAfee to all its
subscribers. I've undone the McAfee
virus scan, but left the site advisor. Will shut it down and see what
happens.

An IT friend convinced me to can McAfee and go with the Microsoft
Security Essentials, which is what
I've done.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




John, again, I am far from being a computer expert but I know it is
generally *not* recommended to have two virus protection programs
running on your computer at the same time. You may have turned off the
routine McAfee virus scan of the hard drive but if you left "site
adviser" running it means that McAfee is still installed and running.
It could possibly conflict with the Microsoft Security Essentials. You
might want to read this:

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/securitytipstalk/archive/2011/06/02/does-microsoft-security-essentials-work-with-other-antivirus-software.aspx







McAfee was the clown the Repubs brought in as their expert consultant on
the ACA software. I thought that was hilarious...a possible murderer and
perpetrator of virii and spyware who would love to insert a backdoor
into a federal government computer network.

Which antivirus software is your I-Etch-a-sketch running. Inquiring
minds really don't G A S. ;-)


Is harry really trying to bring up who the repubs brought in? We all
know who Michelle Obummer brought it, and that bitch failed to the tune
of a half billion dollars.... and we still don't have a website...

A group of programmers put up a site last week that will show you what
you will spend on Obummercare, they built it over a weekend, in three
days...

What site do you visit for your Connecticut Medicaid?

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 21:10:14 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Electronics and hard drive life are more affected by thermal cycles
generated by routinely turning them on and off, on and off. It's not
unlike an incandescent light bulb that will last a long time if it's
left on.

I am not sure how accurate it is these days but IBM determined in the
early 90s that a single power off/on cycle on a 3,5" drive had the
same impact on MTBF as running 8 hours. Basically, if you use it once
a shift, leave it on.


What I recall to have heard from some computer experts (based on tests
performed by independent test laboratories) several years ago were that
each power cycle on hard drives could equal up to 300 hours of normal
operation.

Back in the late 80's, the average MTBF for hard drives could be up to
50,000 hours of operations. At the and of the 90's, the average MTBF
for hard drives had increased to up to 300,000 hours of operation.
Nowadays, some manufacturers advertise hard drives (not SSHD's) with an
MTBF of up to 2,000,000 hours of operation, or roughly equal to about
230 years!


Oh, and just for the record:
I attended my first computer course back in 1978 - that's now 35 years
ago and before things like PCs and Microsoft Windows even existed on the
market...
And I bought my first "home computer" back in 1979...



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On 11/22/13, 10:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:16 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 8:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 7:33 AM, John H wrote:


My wife convinced me to get iTunes. Biggest boo-boo I've made. She
even gave me iTunes gift cards.
But, iTunes gets to be all-consuming. Now it's gone. If I want new
music on my Ipod (or whatever the
little thing's called) I just ask her to sync it with her Bluegrass.
Mostly I just leave it alone.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




Yeah, I have a super duper iPad with all the bells and whistles and
maximum memory. I bought it back when I had the guitar shop and we'd
leave it out on a table so customers could check guitar prices,
etc. by
having it display the shop's website. I'd also occasionally transfer
mp3 backing tracks from my PC to it (using iTunes) and plug the iPad
into the stage PA system for "jam" sessions. Now it sits unused in my
house, collecting dust.



iTunes is all-consuming? What kind of ignorant nonsense talk is that?


I don't think it's "all consuming" but I think it's annoying that you
*have* to have it installed and use it to transfer stuff from your PC to
an Apple device like the iPad. If iTunes is installed on your computer
it regularly knocks on your door looking to be updated or offering other
services I am not interested in. That's why my iPad now sits, unused.

That's another thing ... Seems like every couple of weeks when I *did*
use it, it wanted to update it's OS, a process that seemed to take
forever.

Seems to me that Apple used to be a sorta cool, technology driven
company but has shifted to being totally marketing/sales driven in
recent years.


Apple updates its software from time to time. So does Microsoft. I can't
recall being "offered" other services from Apple other than by email.



The Microsoft Windows updates are mostly security related and don't
radically change how your computer looks, feels or acts. The iPad OS
updates are like starting all over again, similar to when you first
bought and used it. It also asks for you Apple ID and password each
time, which I can never remember because I rarely use anything Apple.

The last time I updated the OS on the iPad (about a month an a half
ago) I wasn't sure it was even going to run and the screen looked
totally different when it finally finished.

I guess I am just used to PCs and Window operating systems. Apple used
to have a reputation of being simple and intuitive in it's use. Not so
much anymore, IMO.



The iPad updates take no longer to install, since it is the same OS,
than the iPhone updates. Just a couple of minutes. Apple releases a few
IOS updates a year to fix bugs and sometimes add features and update
apps. The update to IOS 7 you installed a month and a half ago was a
major update from Version 6 to Version 7 and had some significant
changes to the way the operating system looks. There's plenty of simple
documentation available on line from Apple and many other sources.

Asking for your ID and PW is just a security measure. I have mine set to
something simple.

What model iPad do you have?



--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/22/2013 10:11 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 10:01 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:46 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 9:37 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 9:16 AM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 11/22/13, 8:10 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/22/2013 7:33 AM, John H wrote:


My wife convinced me to get iTunes. Biggest boo-boo I've made. She
even gave me iTunes gift cards.
But, iTunes gets to be all-consuming. Now it's gone. If I want new
music on my Ipod (or whatever the
little thing's called) I just ask her to sync it with her Bluegrass.
Mostly I just leave it alone.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




Yeah, I have a super duper iPad with all the bells and whistles and
maximum memory. I bought it back when I had the guitar shop and we'd
leave it out on a table so customers could check guitar prices,
etc. by
having it display the shop's website. I'd also occasionally transfer
mp3 backing tracks from my PC to it (using iTunes) and plug the iPad
into the stage PA system for "jam" sessions. Now it sits unused
in my
house, collecting dust.



iTunes is all-consuming? What kind of ignorant nonsense talk is that?


I don't think it's "all consuming" but I think it's annoying that you
*have* to have it installed and use it to transfer stuff from your
PC to
an Apple device like the iPad. If iTunes is installed on your computer
it regularly knocks on your door looking to be updated or offering
other
services I am not interested in. That's why my iPad now sits, unused.

That's another thing ... Seems like every couple of weeks when I *did*
use it, it wanted to update it's OS, a process that seemed to take
forever.

Seems to me that Apple used to be a sorta cool, technology driven
company but has shifted to being totally marketing/sales driven in
recent years.


Apple updates its software from time to time. So does Microsoft. I can't
recall being "offered" other services from Apple other than by email.



The Microsoft Windows updates are mostly security related and don't
radically change how your computer looks, feels or acts. The iPad OS
updates are like starting all over again, similar to when you first
bought and used it. It also asks for you Apple ID and password each
time, which I can never remember because I rarely use anything Apple.

The last time I updated the OS on the iPad (about a month an a half
ago) I wasn't sure it was even going to run and the screen looked
totally different when it finally finished.

I guess I am just used to PCs and Window operating systems. Apple used
to have a reputation of being simple and intuitive in it's use. Not so
much anymore, IMO.



The iPad updates take no longer to install, since it is the same OS,
than the iPhone updates. Just a couple of minutes. Apple releases a few
IOS updates a year to fix bugs and sometimes add features and update
apps. The update to IOS 7 you installed a month and a half ago was a
major update from Version 6 to Version 7 and had some significant
changes to the way the operating system looks. There's plenty of simple
documentation available on line from Apple and many other sources.

Asking for your ID and PW is just a security measure. I have mine set to
something simple.

What model iPad do you have?




I don't know what model it is. I know it was the most expensive they
had at the time which was probably about three years ago. IIRC, it was
just under $900 from the local Apple store.

We got a little bit of a price break (not much though) because we
bought four of them at the same time. We bought them when there was a
shortage of them, so we grabbed them when we could.

My wife has one. She uses hers more than I do for playing Scrabble or
something with her friends and also for Skype when she wants to see and
talk to our son's family in South Carolina. I have one. The other two
went to people who worked at the guitar shop at the time.

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On 11/22/2013 7:33 AM, John H wrote:


My wife convinced me to get iTunes. Biggest boo-boo I've made. She
even gave me iTunes gift cards.
But, iTunes gets to be all-consuming. Now it's gone. If I want new
music on my Ipod (or whatever the
little thing's called) I just ask her to sync it with her
Bluegrass.
Mostly I just leave it alone.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!




Yeah, I have a super duper iPad with all the bells and whistles and
maximum memory. I bought it back when I had the guitar shop and we'd
leave it out on a table so customers could check guitar prices,
etc. by
having it display the shop's website. I'd also occasionally
transfer
mp3 backing tracks from my PC to it (using iTunes) and plug the iPad
into the stage PA system for "jam" sessions. Now it sits unused
in my
house, collecting dust.



iTunes is all-consuming? What kind of ignorant nonsense talk is that?


I don't think it's "all consuming" but I think it's annoying that you
*have* to have it installed and use it to transfer stuff from your
PC to
an Apple device like the iPad. If iTunes is installed on your
computer
it regularly knocks on your door looking to be updated or offering
other
services I am not interested in. That's why my iPad now sits, unused.

That's another thing ... Seems like every couple of weeks when I *did*
use it, it wanted to update it's OS, a process that seemed to take
forever.

Seems to me that Apple used to be a sorta cool, technology driven
company but has shifted to being totally marketing/sales driven in
recent years.


Apple updates its software from time to time. So does Microsoft. I
can't
recall being "offered" other services from Apple other than by email.



The Microsoft Windows updates are mostly security related and don't
radically change how your computer looks, feels or acts. The iPad OS
updates are like starting all over again, similar to when you first
bought and used it. It also asks for you Apple ID and password each
time, which I can never remember because I rarely use anything Apple.

The last time I updated the OS on the iPad (about a month an a half
ago) I wasn't sure it was even going to run and the screen looked
totally different when it finally finished.

I guess I am just used to PCs and Window operating systems. Apple used
to have a reputation of being simple and intuitive in it's use. Not so
much anymore, IMO.



The iPad updates take no longer to install, since it is the same OS,
than the iPhone updates. Just a couple of minutes. Apple releases a few
IOS updates a year to fix bugs and sometimes add features and update
apps. The update to IOS 7 you installed a month and a half ago was a
major update from Version 6 to Version 7 and had some significant
changes to the way the operating system looks. There's plenty of simple
documentation available on line from Apple and many other sources.

Asking for your ID and PW is just a security measure. I have mine set to
something simple.

What model iPad do you have?




I don't know what model it is. I know it was the most expensive they
had at the time which was probably about three years ago. IIRC, it was
just under $900 from the local Apple store.

We got a little bit of a price break (not much though) because we
bought four of them at the same time. We bought them when there was a
shortage of them, so we grabbed them when we could.

My wife has one. She uses hers more than I do for playing Scrabble or
something with her friends and also for Skype when she wants to see and
talk to our son's family in South Carolina. I have one. The other two
went to people who worked at the guitar shop at the time.



Ah. You must have purchased the one with built in data abilities, in
addition to WiFi.

I sold my iPad and went back to a laptop for on the road computing.

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