On 11/21/2013 3:16 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


On 11/21/13, 3:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 11/21/2013 11:18 AM, Hank© wrote:



Just stopwatched the laptop ...12 seconds from hitting the power on key
on my laptop until it completes the boot process. And I was wrong...it
does make a call to the server for its backup folder and my documents
folder and my connected SDXC card. It's the SSD drive that makes it
that
fast.


In windows land we call what you described, waking up from sleep mode.


I just timed sleep mode to ready to go (including connecting to router
and Internet) on the Vista laptop. About 3-4 seconds.


I shut my laptop completely off when I am not using it. Desktop after 15
minutes the screen goes black and the hard drive spools down. I believe,
though, the net connection stays active unless I change that setting.



If your computer maintains a connection to the router, it's not
completely shut off.

You are probably familiar with the Windows "sleep" mode, but for
clarification, it's not the "hibernate mode".

In sleep mode, the display is blanked (video circuit shut down), the
audio circuits are shut off, the hard drive is shut down and the
internal WiFi system is turned off. All that remains running are some
of the CPU circuits that draw very little power because nothing is being
processed.

To exit sleep mode any key is depressed (or the display lid is opened,
depending on how you set it up), the disk drive starts spinning, the
video circuits are turned on, audio turned on and the WiFi has to turn
on and sync to the router. On this computer this whole process takes
less than 4 seconds and you're ready to open an application or browser.

On 11/21/13, 3:30 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/21/2013 3:16 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:


On 11/21/13, 3:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

On 11/21/2013 11:18 AM, Hank© wrote:



Just stopwatched the laptop ...12 seconds from hitting the power on
key
on my laptop until it completes the boot process. And I was wrong...it
does make a call to the server for its backup folder and my documents
folder and my connected SDXC card. It's the SSD drive that makes it
that
fast.


In windows land we call what you described, waking up from sleep mode.


I just timed sleep mode to ready to go (including connecting to router
and Internet) on the Vista laptop. About 3-4 seconds.


I shut my laptop completely off when I am not using it. Desktop after 15
minutes the screen goes black and the hard drive spools down. I believe,
though, the net connection stays active unless I change that setting.



If your computer maintains a connection to the router, it's not
completely shut off.

You are probably familiar with the Windows "sleep" mode, but for
clarification, it's not the "hibernate mode".

In sleep mode, the display is blanked (video circuit shut down), the
audio circuits are shut off, the hard drive is shut down and the
internal WiFi system is turned off. All that remains running are some
of the CPU circuits that draw very little power because nothing is being
processed.

To exit sleep mode any key is depressed (or the display lid is opened,
depending on how you set it up), the disk drive starts spinning, the
video circuits are turned on, audio turned on and the WiFi has to turn
on and sync to the router. On this computer this whole process takes
less than 4 seconds and you're ready to open an application or browser.





I realize that. I leave the desktop on, but have the screen and hard
drive shut down. The connection to the router remains on.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:12:55 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 07:13:17 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:44:26 -0500, wrote:


A lot of IE is actually resident in Windoze.

That would help explain it. I've learned patience when it comes to Firefox.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


There must be something else going on. I get the browser window in a
second or so every time. I wonder if there is some spyware program
that is loading too. Look at your plug ins

Here they a

Adobe Acrobat
McAfee Site Advisor
Quick Time
Shockwave Flash
Silverlight
Windows Presentation Foundation

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!

On 11/21/2013 4:59 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 15:16:14 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


I just timed sleep mode to ready to go (including connecting to router
and Internet) on the Vista laptop. About 3-4 seconds.


I shut my laptop completely off when I am not using it. Desktop after 15
minutes the screen goes black and the hard drive spools down. I believe,
though, the net connection stays active unless I change that setting.

There are a couple of ways a computer can be off. Sleep means they
keep the memory active and turn off everything else. That is the
fastest way to get going again, basically just the time it takes to
POST and spin up the drives.
In Hibernate they write out everything in memory to the hard drive
along with all of the status registers and turn the machine off. That
comes back as fast as they can get the hardware up and restore memory
(with an SSD that is really fast since you don't have any spin up
time).
A warm boot does not run POST and hardware reset all the adapters, the
drives keep spinning but it goes through the whole boot process
(the three finger salute)
A cold boot is when they don't save anything and you start from zero
with the machine off That is actually the safest way to boot if you
think you had a software or hardware issue.
I have seen hard drive problems that wouldn't even let you turn off
the machine without using the forced power off (holding the button for
10 seconds) or pulling the plug.


Sometimes when I am in a hurry I just push and hold the power button
down.. It asks me if I want to start in safe mode when I turn it back
on... Toshiba laptops been workhorses for me, for over a decade...

On 11/21/13, 5:32 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 15:36:39 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I realize that. I leave the desktop on, but have the screen and hard
drive shut down. The connection to the router remains on.

The computer is still basically on then
Those are just energy saving settings that you could do since W/95.


Yes, I know. I said I leave the desktop on and shut down the screen and
hard drive. I didn't say it was anything unique.


--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/21/13, 5:38 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:19:19 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:12:55 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 07:13:17 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:44:26 -0500, wrote:


A lot of IE is actually resident in Windoze.

That would help explain it. I've learned patience when it comes to Firefox.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


There must be something else going on. I get the browser window in a
second or so every time. I wonder if there is some spyware program
that is loading too. Look at your plug ins

Here they a

Adobe Acrobat
McAfee Site Advisor
Quick Time
Shockwave Flash
Silverlight
Windows Presentation Foundation

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


The only addons I see is Logitech Device Detection and my virus
scanner.


I have a whole slew of add-ons I use with Firefox and it starts up
almost instantaneously. About 20 add-ons/extensions, and even more
plug-ins. Usually two seconds to my home page, which is the Google
advanced search page.

It helps to have a fast CPU and an OS without the avoirdupois of Windows.





--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/21/2013 5:38 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:19:19 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:12:55 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 07:13:17 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:44:26 -0500, wrote:


A lot of IE is actually resident in Windoze.

That would help explain it. I've learned patience when it comes to Firefox.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


There must be something else going on. I get the browser window in a
second or so every time. I wonder if there is some spyware program
that is loading too. Look at your plug ins

Here they a

Adobe Acrobat
McAfee Site Advisor
Quick Time
Shockwave Flash
Silverlight
Windows Presentation Foundation

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


The only addons I see is Logitech Device Detection and my virus
scanner.



I am no expert but based on previous experience, if I were John I'd dump
McAfee and substitute it with AVG.

I used to have McAfee as a anti-virus program but it slowed the computer
I had at the time down. Not as bad as Norton, but still consumed a lot
of resources. I've been using AVG now for over four years and like it
a lot. Doesn't seem to affect the computer speed and works just fine.

On 11/21/13, 5:51 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/21/2013 5:38 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:19:19 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:12:55 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 07:13:17 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:44:26 -0500, wrote:


A lot of IE is actually resident in Windoze.

That would help explain it. I've learned patience when it comes to
Firefox.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


There must be something else going on. I get the browser window in a
second or so every time. I wonder if there is some spyware program
that is loading too. Look at your plug ins

Here they a

Adobe Acrobat
McAfee Site Advisor
Quick Time
Shockwave Flash
Silverlight
Windows Presentation Foundation

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


The only addons I see is Logitech Device Detection and my virus
scanner.



I am no expert but based on previous experience, if I were John I'd dump
McAfee and substitute it with AVG.

I used to have McAfee as a anti-virus program but it slowed the computer
I had at the time down. Not as bad as Norton, but still consumed a lot
of resources. I've been using AVG now for over four years and like it
a lot. Doesn't seem to affect the computer speed and works just fine.



Or get an Apple and . . .

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On 11/21/13, 6:16 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:56:31 -0500, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

Or get an Apple and . .


... not own a computer, just an appliance.


I enjoy having computers that are as reliably solid as my refrigerator.

--
Religion: together we can find the cure.

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:38:12 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:19:19 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:12:55 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 07:13:17 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:44:26 -0500, wrote:


A lot of IE is actually resident in Windoze.

That would help explain it. I've learned patience when it comes to Firefox.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


There must be something else going on. I get the browser window in a
second or so every time. I wonder if there is some spyware program
that is loading too. Look at your plug ins

Here they a

Adobe Acrobat
McAfee Site Advisor
Quick Time
Shockwave Flash
Silverlight
Windows Presentation Foundation

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!


The only addons I see is Logitech Device Detection and my virus
scanner.

Actually, the list I gave was plug-ins, not add-ons. I don't have any add-ons enabled.

John H. -- Hope you're having a great day!