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On 9/18/13 2:02 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:49:08 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 01:35:36 -0700, jps wrote: Good thing Virginia has plenty of AR-15s for ready sale. This is really starting to look like a massive government **** up. Alexis was nuts but the VA never told anyone He had 8 run ins with military justice but got an Honorable Discharge The DoD gave him a secret clearance without even finding the things the CNN found with minimal effort The list goes on. One thing that is interesting. The background check everyone sees as the panacea, did not stop this guy from buying his SHOTGUN (No AR 15 involved) Nothing popped on the background check. Most of the damage was actually done with guns he took from the guards tho. He could have done that with a pocket knife or a blunt object if he needed a weapon at all to subdue a 60 year old civil service guard who was sleepwalking through his day. He first got a General Discharge, which usually indicates a behavior problem He appealed it and got it made Honorable. A secret clearance is no big deal. He probably got that soon after he enlisted, before any problems developed, and it was never revoked. Damn, that makes me wonder how many crazed whackos there are in the military........ You wonder that after reading the posts from some of those in rec.boats? |
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On Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:02:00 UTC-3, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:49:08 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 01:35:36 -0700, jps wrote: Good thing Virginia has plenty of AR-15s for ready sale. This is really starting to look like a massive government **** up. Alexis was nuts but the VA never told anyone He had 8 run ins with military justice but got an Honorable Discharge The DoD gave him a secret clearance without even finding the things the CNN found with minimal effort The list goes on. One thing that is interesting. The background check everyone sees as the panacea, did not stop this guy from buying his SHOTGUN (No AR 15 involved) Nothing popped on the background check. Most of the damage was actually done with guns he took from the guards tho. He could have done that with a pocket knife or a blunt object if he needed a weapon at all to subdue a 60 year old civil service guard who was sleepwalking through his day. He first got a General Discharge, which usually indicates a behavior problem He appealed it and got it made Honorable. A secret clearance is no big deal. He probably got that soon after he enlisted, before any problems developed, and it was never revoked. Damn, that makes me wonder how many crazed whackos there are in the military........ Looks like there were a lot of unsociable ones that thankfully got drummed out. |
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On 9/18/13 6:38 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:02:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:49:08 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 01:35:36 -0700, jps wrote: Good thing Virginia has plenty of AR-15s for ready sale. This is really starting to look like a massive government **** up. Alexis was nuts but the VA never told anyone He had 8 run ins with military justice but got an Honorable Discharge The DoD gave him a secret clearance without even finding the things the CNN found with minimal effort The list goes on. One thing that is interesting. The background check everyone sees as the panacea, did not stop this guy from buying his SHOTGUN (No AR 15 involved) Nothing popped on the background check. Most of the damage was actually done with guns he took from the guards tho. He could have done that with a pocket knife or a blunt object if he needed a weapon at all to subdue a 60 year old civil service guard who was sleepwalking through his day. He first got a General Discharge, which usually indicates a behavior problem He appealed it and got it made Honorable. A secret clearance is no big deal. He probably got that soon after he enlisted, before any problems developed, and it was never revoked. Damn, that makes me wonder how many crazed whackos there are in the military........ There is no shortage of bi-polar gun nuts among those hard hat union guys Harry loves so much. Your "wags" are getting more wild. :) There's a lot more stigma to "coming out" with a mental illness if you are in the military, as has been reported increasingly of late. http://tinyurl.com/lbt6m4r |
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"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/18/13 6:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:02:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:49:08 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 01:35:36 -0700, jps wrote: Good thing Virginia has plenty of AR-15s for ready sale. This is really starting to look like a massive government **** up. Alexis was nuts but the VA never told anyone He had 8 run ins with military justice but got an Honorable Discharge The DoD gave him a secret clearance without even finding the things the CNN found with minimal effort The list goes on. One thing that is interesting. The background check everyone sees as the panacea, did not stop this guy from buying his SHOTGUN (No AR 15 involved) Nothing popped on the background check. Most of the damage was actually done with guns he took from the guards tho. He could have done that with a pocket knife or a blunt object if he needed a weapon at all to subdue a 60 year old civil service guard who was sleepwalking through his day. He first got a General Discharge, which usually indicates a behavior problem He appealed it and got it made Honorable. A secret clearance is no big deal. He probably got that soon after he enlisted, before any problems developed, and it was never revoked. Damn, that makes me wonder how many crazed whackos there are in the military........ There is no shortage of bi-polar gun nuts among those hard hat union guys Harry loves so much. Your "wags" are getting more wild. :) There's a lot more stigma to "coming out" with a mental illness if you are in the military, as has been reported increasingly of late. http://tinyurl.com/lbt6m4r ------------------------------ If the screening done before joining worked, people with mental illnesses or potential mental instability wouldn't be in the military in the first place. Problem is, diagnosing mental issues is not as straightforward as looking for flat feet. I remember my pre-enlistment physical in Boston. They spent all day doing all kinds of physical tests. Then you go into a room and sit down with a shrink. He asks you five or six questions, then yells, "Next". Took about 5 minutes, if that. |
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On 9/18/13 8:35 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
"F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/18/13 6:38 PM, wrote: On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:02:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:49:08 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 01:35:36 -0700, jps wrote: Good thing Virginia has plenty of AR-15s for ready sale. This is really starting to look like a massive government **** up. Alexis was nuts but the VA never told anyone He had 8 run ins with military justice but got an Honorable Discharge The DoD gave him a secret clearance without even finding the things the CNN found with minimal effort The list goes on. One thing that is interesting. The background check everyone sees as the panacea, did not stop this guy from buying his SHOTGUN (No AR 15 involved) Nothing popped on the background check. Most of the damage was actually done with guns he took from the guards tho. He could have done that with a pocket knife or a blunt object if he needed a weapon at all to subdue a 60 year old civil service guard who was sleepwalking through his day. He first got a General Discharge, which usually indicates a behavior problem He appealed it and got it made Honorable. A secret clearance is no big deal. He probably got that soon after he enlisted, before any problems developed, and it was never revoked. Damn, that makes me wonder how many crazed whackos there are in the military........ There is no shortage of bi-polar gun nuts among those hard hat union guys Harry loves so much. Your "wags" are getting more wild. :) There's a lot more stigma to "coming out" with a mental illness if you are in the military, as has been reported increasingly of late. http://tinyurl.com/lbt6m4r ------------------------------ If the screening done before joining worked, people with mental illnesses or potential mental instability wouldn't be in the military in the first place. I wouldn't bet the baby or the bathwater on that. Problem is, diagnosing mental issues is not as straightforward as looking for flat feet. Expert diagnosticians pick up on many of the mentally ill who might pass a simple screen, especially one conducted like an assembly line. |
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In article ,
says... On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 14:02:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:49:08 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 01:35:36 -0700, jps wrote: Good thing Virginia has plenty of AR-15s for ready sale. This is really starting to look like a massive government **** up. Alexis was nuts but the VA never told anyone He had 8 run ins with military justice but got an Honorable Discharge The DoD gave him a secret clearance without even finding the things the CNN found with minimal effort The list goes on. One thing that is interesting. The background check everyone sees as the panacea, did not stop this guy from buying his SHOTGUN (No AR 15 involved) Nothing popped on the background check. Most of the damage was actually done with guns he took from the guards tho. He could have done that with a pocket knife or a blunt object if he needed a weapon at all to subdue a 60 year old civil service guard who was sleepwalking through his day. He first got a General Discharge, which usually indicates a behavior problem He appealed it and got it made Honorable. A secret clearance is no big deal. He probably got that soon after he enlisted, before any problems developed, and it was never revoked. Damn, that makes me wonder how many crazed whackos there are in the military........ There is no shortage of bi-polar gun nuts among those hard hat union guys Harry loves so much. What does that have to do with how many whack jobs are in the military?? |
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In article , says...
On 9/17/13 11:05 AM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 01:35:36 -0700, jps wrote: Good thing Virginia has plenty of AR-15s for ready sale. There was no AR 15 there. It was just a runaway media that does not believe a person can do anything bad without an assault weapon. NBC was even using a graphic of a M-16 that had the M203 grenade launcher under it. He had a Joe Biden shotgun and they believe the 2 pistols he had were taken from cops on site. A shotgun he apparently bought in Virginia a short time ago, because, even though he apparently was mentally ill, that didn't prevent him from buying a firearm. That is the government's fault. |
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