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Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
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Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
On Thursday, 19 September 2013 22:40:18 UTC-3, Earl wrote:
iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/19/13 10:19 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/19/13 8:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/19/13 7:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... Perhaps the NRA doesn't give a **** one way or the other. Just don't seem right letting NRA members, and honest, upright gun- owners be treated like smokers. Just don't seem right. If the NRA won't stand up for the right for a legal and upright gun owner to have a cup of coffee with his legal gun on his hip, who will? Treating a gun-owner like you would a smoker! Disgraceful! It ain't right, I'm telling you, it just ain't right. What if somebody comes in to shoot the place up, and kill everybody? Hell, that just happened in that DC Navy yard. But I'm willing to give the NRA a chance here. It's still early. Private businesses have the right to deny service to anyone they want. Uh, no. Uh, yes, as long as it's not in violation of any specific Civil Rights law, i.e. racial discrimination, etc. Anyone can be determined to be persona non grata at the discretion of the business owner if he/she feels that person is or may be disruptive to the business. That's right...you can't legally discriminate and therefore private businesses do not have the right to deny service to anyone they want without a reason that doesn't violate the law. So, the answer remains, "Uh, no." As a business person, I can refuse to do business with a person no matter what. I don't have to take ANY job if I don't want to. You have to think a bit wider than your immediate surrounding or personal business. As one example, Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination based on race, color, religion or national origin in hotels, motels, restaurants, theaters, and all other public accommodations engaged in interstate commerce. So, if you ran a diner, you could not legally refuse to serve blacks, Jews, Armenians, et cetera, because they were black, Jewish, or Armenian. You might be able to refuse service to PsychoSnotty because he is an asshole, but I am not sure about that. I can refuse them service if I so choose. I can't however refuse service because of their ethnicity, etc. BUT, again, I can refuse them service, as can any business refuse anyone service. You don't own your business, Kevin. Do they let you choose who you can service? Harry's best buddy Donnie posted your personal information and tried to get people to call your firm so we know you have an employer. Liar..I never encouraged anyone to call another's employer, although I thought often about reporting your nasty antics to Margaret. |
Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
On Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:56:20 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Thursday, 19 September 2013 22:40:18 UTC-3, Earl wrote: iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/19/13 10:19 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 9/19/13 8:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/19/13 7:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... Perhaps the NRA doesn't give a **** one way or the other. Just don't seem right letting NRA members, and honest, upright gun- owners be treated like smokers. Just don't seem right. If the NRA won't stand up for the right for a legal and upright gun owner to have a cup of coffee with his legal gun on his hip, who will? Treating a gun-owner like you would a smoker! Disgraceful! It ain't right, I'm telling you, it just ain't right. What if somebody comes in to shoot the place up, and kill everybody? Hell, that just happened in that DC Navy yard. But I'm willing to give the NRA a chance here. It's still early. Private businesses have the right to deny service to anyone they want. Uh, no. Uh, yes, as long as it's not in violation of any specific Civil Rights law, i.e. racial discrimination, etc. Anyone can be determined to be persona non grata at the discretion of the business owner if he/she feels that person is or may be disruptive to the business. That's right...you can't legally discriminate and therefore private businesses do not have the right to deny service to anyone they want without a reason that doesn't violate the law. So, the answer remains, "Uh, no." As a business person, I can refuse to do business with a person no matter what. I don't have to take ANY job if I don't want to. You have to think a bit wider than your immediate surrounding or personal business. As one example, Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 prohibits discrimination based on race, color, religion or national origin in hotels, motels, restaurants, theaters, and all other public accommodations engaged in interstate commerce. So, if you ran a diner, you could not legally refuse to serve blacks, Jews, Armenians, et cetera, because they were black, Jewish, or Armenian. You might be able to refuse service to PsychoSnotty because he is an asshole, but I am not sure about that. I can refuse them service if I so choose. I can't however refuse service because of their ethnicity, etc. BUT, again, I can refuse them service, as can any business refuse anyone service. You don't own your business, Kevin. Do they let you choose who you can service? Harry's best buddy Donnie posted your personal information and tried to get people to call your firm so we know you have an employer. Liar..I never encouraged anyone to call another's employer, although I thought often about reporting your nasty antics to Margaret. You really should go back and read some of your posts, Don. I think you'd be surprised at the antics you've performed to keep Harry happy. -- John H. Hope you're having a great day! |
Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
On Friday, 20 September 2013 09:48:31 UTC-3, John H wrote:
snip.... You really should go back and read some of your posts, Don. I think you'd be surprised at the antics you've performed to keep Harry happy. -- John H. Wow, Johnny. Harry seems to dominate your every waking hour. You're starting to remind me of Skipper (RIP) as he slipped near the end. Read the following lyrics of a popular song and see if anything applies to you. "When I look up to the skies I see your eyes a funny kind of yellow I rush home to bed I soak my head I see your face underneath my pillow I wake next morning, tired, still yawning See your face come peeping through my window Pictures of matchstick men and you Mirages of matchstick men and you All I ever see is them and you Windows echo your reflection When I look in their direction now When will this haunting stop? Your face it just won't leave me alone Pictures of matchstick men and you Mirages of matchstick men and you All I ever see is them and you You're in the sky and with the sky You make men cry, you lie You're in the sky and with the sky You make men cry, you lie Pictures of matchstick men and Pictures of matchstick men and you Pictures of matchstick men ...." |
Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
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Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
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Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
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Luddite" says... "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/19/13 8:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/19/13 7:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... Perhaps the NRA doesn't give a **** one way or the other. Just don't seem right letting NRA members, and honest, upright gun- owners be treated like smokers. Just don't seem right. If the NRA won't stand up for the right for a legal and upright gun owner to have a cup of coffee with his legal gun on his hip, who will? Treating a gun-owner like you would a smoker! Disgraceful! It ain't right, I'm telling you, it just ain't right. What if somebody comes in to shoot the place up, and kill everybody? Hell, that just happened in that DC Navy yard. But I'm willing to give the NRA a chance here. It's still early. Private businesses have the right to deny service to anyone they want. Uh, no. Uh, yes, as long as it's not in violation of any specific Civil Rights law, i.e. racial discrimination, etc. Anyone can be determined to be persona non grata at the discretion of the business owner if he/she feels that person is or may be disruptive to the business. That's right...you can't legally discriminate and therefore private businesses do not have the right to deny service to anyone they want without a reason that doesn't violate the law. So, the answer remains, "Uh, no." Sorry Harry. You are wrong on this one. I've booted people out of the guitar shop who weren't violating any laws but were being total asses. Not many, but a handful over the 4 plus years I had the shop. After the first experience I checked the legality of my actions with a lawyer. Perfectly legal, and within my rights as the owner of the business. I've also seen professionals banned from places of business .... in this case not mine, but one I worked for. Again, perfectly legal and within the rights of the business owner. I've refused my business services just because I knew the person's reputation and didn't want to get involved. Simple as that! |
Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
In article ,
says... On 9/19/13 2:54 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message m... On 9/19/13 8:16 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 9/19/13 7:57 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... Perhaps the NRA doesn't give a **** one way or the other. Just don't seem right letting NRA members, and honest, upright gun- owners be treated like smokers. Just don't seem right. If the NRA won't stand up for the right for a legal and upright gun owner to have a cup of coffee with his legal gun on his hip, who will? Treating a gun-owner like you would a smoker! Disgraceful! It ain't right, I'm telling you, it just ain't right. What if somebody comes in to shoot the place up, and kill everybody? Hell, that just happened in that DC Navy yard. But I'm willing to give the NRA a chance here. It's still early. Private businesses have the right to deny service to anyone they want. Uh, no. Uh, yes, as long as it's not in violation of any specific Civil Rights law, i.e. racial discrimination, etc. Anyone can be determined to be persona non grata at the discretion of the business owner if he/she feels that person is or may be disruptive to the business. That's right...you can't legally discriminate and therefore private businesses do not have the right to deny service to anyone they want without a reason that doesn't violate the law. So, the answer remains, "Uh, no." Sorry Harry. You are wrong on this one. I've booted people out of the guitar shop who weren't violating any laws but were being total asses. Not many, but a handful over the 4 plus years I had the shop. After the first experience I checked the legality of my actions with a lawyer. Perfectly legal, and within my rights as the owner of the business. I've also seen professionals banned from places of business .... in this case not mine, but one I worked for. Again, perfectly legal and within the rights of the business owner. I said you couldn't discriminate for reasons that violated the law and, also, I doubt your guitar show came under the umbrella of a public accommodation. Words are important. I said that a business could refuse service to anybody they choose. That is the statement to which you replied "uh, no". |
Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
In article 1691729774401306250.609265bmckeenospam-
, says... iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... In article , says... Perhaps the NRA doesn't give a **** one way or the other. Just don't seem right letting NRA members, and honest, upright gun- owners be treated like smokers. Just don't seem right. If the NRA won't stand up for the right for a legal and upright gun owner to have a cup of coffee with his legal gun on his hip, who will? Treating a gun-owner like you would a smoker! Disgraceful! It ain't right, I'm telling you, it just ain't right. What if somebody comes in to shoot the place up, and kill everybody? Hell, that just happened in that DC Navy yard. But I'm willing to give the NRA a chance here. It's still early. Private businesses have the right to deny service to anyone they want. No they don't! You would still see Whites Only signs in Maryland. OH, ****. I didn't say that could discriminate based on race. But I can certainly refuse service to anyone I choose. |
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