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Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
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says... On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:24:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:40:55 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm That is what I thought. No cite to the "study" described, just raw data from the CDC. At least you can look at the raw data and interpret it yourself. Maybe you can even find the rise in the data. The data does not address the original premise of the thread. They talk about the weapons used in the homicides/suicides but they do not link it to firearm ownership overall. Wait, if a person didn't "own" a firearm, how would he use it to commit the crime? But it doesn's say anything about the majority who do own a gun and never commit a crime with it and that is the point. A lot of those people may not admit owning a gun to an anonymous person on the phone. You understand that. You won't even tell us your first name because of your paranoia.. I won't tell someone my first name on usenet because it's just plain stupid to do so. Please show me ONE cite that says that it's an intelligent and prudent thing to do so, and no one should worry about doing so. |
Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
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says... On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:32:40 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:24:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:40:55 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm That is what I thought. No cite to the "study" described, just raw data from the CDC. At least you can look at the raw data and interpret it yourself. Maybe you can even find the rise in the data. The data does not address the original premise of the thread. They talk about the weapons used in the homicides/suicides but they do not link it to firearm ownership overall. Wait, if a person didn't "own" a firearm, how would he use it to commit the crime? But it doesn's say anything about the majority who do own a gun and never commit a crime with it and that is the point. A lot of those people may not admit owning a gun to an anonymous person on the phone. You understand that. You won't even tell us your first name because of your paranoia.. It's Kevin. Oh, so YOU'RE kevin, got it.... |
Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
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says... On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:44:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:24:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:40:55 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm That is what I thought. No cite to the "study" described, just raw data from the CDC. At least you can look at the raw data and interpret it yourself. Maybe you can even find the rise in the data. The data does not address the original premise of the thread. They talk about the weapons used in the homicides/suicides but they do not link it to firearm ownership overall. Wait, if a person didn't "own" a firearm, how would he use it to commit the crime? But it doesn's say anything about the majority who do own a gun and never commit a crime with it and that is the point. A lot of those people may not admit owning a gun to an anonymous person on the phone. You understand that. You won't even tell us your first name because of your paranoia.. I won't tell someone my first name on usenet because it's just plain stupid to do so. Please show me ONE cite that says that it's an intelligent and prudent thing to do so, and no one should worry about doing so. Yet you think you can trust what someone would tell a stranger on the phone about a prime theft item they might have when they probably have your name and address. Nobody has a clue about how many people own guns and any phone survey is simply bogus information gathered by people who usually have an agenda anyway. Right...... Prove the information wrong then. |
Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
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says... On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 11:47:07 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:44:06 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:24:29 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 22 Sep 2013 21:40:55 -0400, BAR wrote: In article , says... http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm That is what I thought. No cite to the "study" described, just raw data from the CDC. At least you can look at the raw data and interpret it yourself. Maybe you can even find the rise in the data. The data does not address the original premise of the thread. They talk about the weapons used in the homicides/suicides but they do not link it to firearm ownership overall. Wait, if a person didn't "own" a firearm, how would he use it to commit the crime? But it doesn's say anything about the majority who do own a gun and never commit a crime with it and that is the point. A lot of those people may not admit owning a gun to an anonymous person on the phone. You understand that. You won't even tell us your first name because of your paranoia.. I won't tell someone my first name on usenet because it's just plain stupid to do so. Please show me ONE cite that says that it's an intelligent and prudent thing to do so, and no one should worry about doing so. Yet you think you can trust what someone would tell a stranger on the phone about a prime theft item they might have when they probably have your name and address. Nobody has a clue about how many people own guns and any phone survey is simply bogus information gathered by people who usually have an agenda anyway. Right...... Prove the information wrong then. Impossible to "prove" anything if the only data you have is what someone might tell a pollster on the phone GIGO. You are taking a CDC data set and trying to use it to justify a study done with garbage data generated by a bunch of grad students trying to bull**** a professor into a degree Got it, you have nothing to base your position on that the data is wrong, you just don't like the data. |
Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
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Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
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Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 15:30:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 14:19:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 13:03:31 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Impossible to "prove" anything if the only data you have is what someone might tell a pollster on the phone GIGO. You are taking a CDC data set and trying to use it to justify a study done with garbage data generated by a bunch of grad students trying to bull**** a professor into a degree Got it, you have nothing to base your position on that the data is wrong, you just don't like the data. The data does not reflect reality. They sold almost 17 million new guns last year and your data says gun ownership has gone down. Yes, I don't like the data You don't like it, but that doesn't make it wrong. You wishing it was so doesn't make it right either. I've asked before, if it's wrong, that's fine, prove to me that it is, and I'll believe it. Wouldn't it make more sense to prove yours is correct? Or, is it correct because you found it on the internet. -- John H. Hope you're having a great day! |
Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
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Higher gun ownership equals higher rate of homicide
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