"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 11:52:03 -0400, iBoaterer
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On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:49:34 -0400, iBoaterer
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What you don't realize is that many bridges carrying interstate
traffic
were never engineered for that weight and frequency of traffic
loads.
That is but one problem.

Why not? They were originally designed for trucks carrying tanks.

Now where on earth do you get THAT idea from???

The original purpose of the interstate highway system and the
original
design guidelines

In many cities, the interstate highways are being added and have been
added. The original guidelines no longer stand, and the fact is that
city bridges have been re-purposed to use for interstate traffic that
they were never intended nor designed to hold.

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An example would be .......... ??

On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 15:39:45 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 12:50:13 -0400, Wayne.B
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On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 11:36:00 -0400, John H
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Been on I-95 lately?

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NY to Jacksonville just a week ago, other than traffic issues south of
Baltimore, not all that bad in my opinion.

Are they still adding a lane to the DC Beltway?

They always seem to be adding another one.

They added an EZ Pass lane that goes roughly from Braddock Rd to Tysons corner. I've not used it,
and have seen very little traffic on it. But, I don't get on the beltway during rush hour.

John (Gun Nut) H.
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On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 16:08:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:



"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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In article ,
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On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 11:52:03 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:49:34 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

What you don't realize is that many bridges carrying interstate
traffic
were never engineered for that weight and frequency of traffic
loads.
That is but one problem.

Why not? They were originally designed for trucks carrying tanks.

Now where on earth do you get THAT idea from???

The original purpose of the interstate highway system and the
original
design guidelines

In many cities, the interstate highways are being added and have been
added. The original guidelines no longer stand, and the fact is that
city bridges have been re-purposed to use for interstate traffic that
they were never intended nor designed to hold.

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An example would be .......... ??

Shame on you. We know you're asking for a 'cite'.

John (Gun Nut) H.
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On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 15:59:12 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 13:18:09 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 07:39:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 21:41:57 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:


When we take the train to Jax, it usually works out to be a 13 hour
train trip. We leave in the evening and arrive the next morining, after
a good night's sleep aboard the train. No long waits to clear security
at the origin, no long wait for luggage at the termination. Compartment
includes private toilet, two bunk beds and two pretty decent meals.
Takes about the same time as driving, if I felt like driving without an
overnight stop, which I don't like doing. Would take much less time if
trackage and equipment were a lot better, but the trackage south of DC
is mostly CSX, and it doesn't give a **** about high speed passenger rail.

No worries about all the crap that accompanies airline travel.

That "crap" is coming TSA is already eyeing trains as the next place
to expand their empire. All it would take is one "terrorist gesture"
to lock the train stations down as tight as an airport.


About $700 round trip for two adults. Much more comfy than even first
class on a plane. Takes longer, sure, but it's overnight and you have to
sleep. Oh, and two first class airline tickets would be about $1000.

But we can't improve passenger rail transportation because this is
America and we can't things like that anymore. I get it.

It is something most people do not want.
It is simple, just put it to a vote.
In Florida High Speed Rail went down about two to one in the 2004
vote.

Kill the bullet train

Yes 4,519,423 63.72%
No 2,573,280 36.28%

Bunch of old retirees that are afraid of change!

Cite? :)

John (Gun Nut) H.

Wow, must you be shown everything? He

http://bit.ly/18Auhqn

You really should learn how to do a little research yourself.

Nowhere says the 4,519,423 pollsters who said 'kill it' were old, retirees, or afraid of change.

Perhaps you should read some of your 'cites'.

John (Gun Nut) H.

You stupid fool, are you incapable of extrapolating data now? Hint: what
percentage of Floridians are retirees......... think now, it may do some
good.

Somewhere around 17%. Now, what percent of those are afraid of change and old?

Cite, please.

Does name-calling lend credibility to your argument?

John (Gun Nut) H.
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On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 16:08:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
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"iBoaterer" wrote in message

In many cities, the interstate highways are being added and have been
added. The original guidelines no longer stand, and the fact is that
city bridges have been re-purposed to use for interstate traffic that
they were never intended nor designed to hold.

-----------------------------------

An example would be .......... ??

Shame on you. We know you're asking for a 'cite'.

John (Gun Nut) H.

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I was trying to be original.

I don't know much about building bridges or "re-purposing" them, but
it seems to me that any existing highway or bridge that is taken over
by the state and made part of the federal interstate highway system
would have to meet current construction requirements and criteria
established by the Federal Highway Administration (under the
Department of Transportation).

I also suspect that the design criteria and requirements today are
superior to those used in the 1950s.

On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 12:33:28 -0400, John H
wrote:

Our cabinet doors were opened, crap all over the floor, and shelves broken.
What a mess.

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Been there, done that, but we were in 8 to 10 foot waves at the time.
All of our galley cabinets have heavy duty latches now.

On 9/3/2013 2:03 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 13:21:23 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 9/3/2013 12:33 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:57:34 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

On 9/3/2013 7:51 AM, Hank© wrote:
On 9/2/2013 11:24 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:42:08 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

I'll betcha if a national poll was taken the majority of people would
prefer spending money on fixing roads and airports in lieu of
building a
rail system network and trains capable of travelling 200+ mph.

The power grid isn't as big of a problem as you may think. Demand has
basically flat lined in the past several years and has actually dropped
in some. Smart grids and energy efficient devices have helped.



Not to worry. Nothing much is happening in refurbishing roads,
bridges, dams, infrastructure.

That must be a North East problem. Florida maintains it's roads
..

BTW who was talking about dams?
The environmentalists want all of them blown up anyway

Roads don't freeze in Florida. Northerners haven't figured out how to
build roads to survive the harsh winters they experience.

The "infrastructure" is not crumbling... I drive all over the place with
a trailer. The roads are fine... the bridges are fine....

You've obviously not been on I-95 around Boston with a trailer.

I drive around there all the time, half of our tracks are north of there
but I do avoid the Boston Loop as much as possible...

Still, 30-40 miles of interstate around one city doesn't prove the Libs
point about the country infrastructure being crumbling...
The asphalt dips three to five
inches just before the concrete overpasses. When the wheels hit the concrete overpass, the trailer
seems to bounce a foot. Our cabinet doors were opened, crap all over the floor, and shelves broken.
What a mess.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Most certainly not. I was complaining about one stretch of road - which sucks.

John (Gun Nut) H.


Yeah, I do admit to avoiding Boston all together...

On 9/3/2013 10:20 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 09:26:21 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

You didn't go far enough up into NY to see the serious infrastructure
rust and decay.

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We got as far as Watertown, Syracuse, Binghamton and the Finger Lakes
region. How much farther did we need to go?

You went far enough. Did you notice the serious rusting under bridges
and tressles?

On Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:55:43 UTC-3, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On 9/3/2013 2:03 PM, John H wrote:

On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 13:21:23 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:



On 9/3/2013 12:33 PM, John H wrote:

On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 08:57:34 -0400, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:



On 9/3/2013 7:51 AM, Hank� wrote:

On 9/2/2013 11:24 PM, wrote:

On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:42:08 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



I'll betcha if a national poll was taken the majority of people would

prefer spending money on fixing roads and airports in lieu of

building a

rail system network and trains capable of travelling 200+ mph.



The power grid isn't as big of a problem as you may think. Demand has

basically flat lined in the past several years and has actually dropped

in some. Smart grids and energy efficient devices have helped.







Not to worry. Nothing much is happening in refurbishing roads,

bridges, dams, infrastructure.



That must be a North East problem. Florida maintains it's roads

..



BTW who was talking about dams?

The environmentalists want all of them blown up anyway



Roads don't freeze in Florida. Northerners haven't figured out how to

build roads to survive the harsh winters they experience.



The "infrastructure" is not crumbling... I drive all over the place with

a trailer. The roads are fine... the bridges are fine....



You've obviously not been on I-95 around Boston with a trailer.



I drive around there all the time, half of our tracks are north of there

but I do avoid the Boston Loop as much as possible...



Still, 30-40 miles of interstate around one city doesn't prove the Libs

point about the country infrastructure being crumbling...

The asphalt dips three to five

inches just before the concrete overpasses. When the wheels hit the concrete overpass, the trailer

seems to bounce a foot. Our cabinet doors were opened, crap all over the floor, and shelves broken.

What a mess.



John (Gun Nut) H.





Most certainly not. I was complaining about one stretch of road - which sucks.



John (Gun Nut) H.





Yeah, I do admit to avoiding Boston all together...


Boston must be devastated.
How can they survive without you buying happy meals and camping under the Freeway bridges?

On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 22:48:47 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

On 9/3/2013 10:20 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 09:26:21 -0400, Hank©
wrote:

You didn't go far enough up into NY to see the serious infrastructure
rust and decay.

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We got as far as Watertown, Syracuse, Binghamton and the Finger Lakes
region. How much farther did we need to go?

You went far enough. Did you notice the serious rusting under bridges
and tressles?

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Yes, I commented on that earlier. It looks bad in places and should
certainly be sand blasted, inspected and re-painted at the very least.
The Thruway Authority should have the money for that sort of thing
with all the tolls they collect.