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On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:19:00 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:24:46 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:43:54 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 05:13:50 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Feb 12, 7:06*am, ESAD wrote:
On 2/12/13 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:









On Feb 12, 6:46 am, ESAD wrote:
It seems perfectly appropriate to be really upset at the number of
gun-caused murders in this country. If you are not really upset, then
there is something wrong with you.

It's very upsetting, Harry. but not to the point of drama. People live
and people die.I''m aware of what *the murder rate is especially in my
state. *But John had a valid question, What would JPS suggest doing
about it. Instead of a *a comprehensive answer he gets cussed,
insulted and demeaned.

So...

"People live and people die." Wow.

Can you deny it?

Herring is a racist, and deserves all the cussing, insults and demeaning
comments he gets.

Over asking for a comprehensive answer to someones continual rant?

1. We can certainly do a lot more to try to cut down on the number of
fellow beings who are cut down by guns. By doing so, we are, in a way,
denying that sort of death.

No doubt.

2. Herring has no interest in "comprehensive answers" to gun deaths or
any of the other serious social ills that plague our society. It's
obvious from his never-ending, simple-minded and hate-filled posts and
comments.


I've asked JPS the same question and have never received any kind of a
a response worth having. More name-calling, more spewing, and more
brain-rattling dementia.

Do you have a solution, Harry? No. No you don't. You have some ideas
on how to help curb the gun murdder rate, the same as I .but that's
not a cure.

You can't even get that much from the OP.

So...

Close the gun show loopholes.

Make sales between private parties a legal process, just like buying a
car, and include a background check.

There is no single solution, there are incremental steps to managing
the otherwise out-of-control free-for-all that is the gun market
today.

Getting drunk driving automobile deaths under control took three
decades but by working all sides of the issue, the rate has declined
by 2/3 over those three decades.

You fruitcakes who think it's just daily business with people getting
shot and killed need to have a family member or close friend die of a
random act of gun mayhem to wake the **** up?

Spectacular ideas!

They should be put in a letter to your congresspeople immediately.


Salmonbait

That doesn't mean you won't ask the same ****ing question in 10
minutes and claim that I haven't given you an answer. Have you had a
test for Old Timers disease yet?

Then don't make another 'gun's are bad' post for a while. Have you mailed the letters yet? What did
they say?


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

You know you live in a Country run by idiots if... You have to have your
parents signature to go on a school field trip but not to get an abortion.

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"Meyer" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 2/13/2013 11:29 AM, thumper wrote:
On 2/13/2013 6:30 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 3:28 AM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:31:11 -0800, thumper
wrote:

On 2/12/2013 4:53 PM, BAR wrote:

When you trade security for liberty you soon have neither.

You have that backwards.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

Benjamin Franklin

Real wisdom doesn't fit so easily on a bumper sticker.

An asshole misquotes BF and you fall in line with the nonsense.
Figures.

http://tinyurl.com/ykv9lbs

It seems that I was wrong about the quote.

----------------------------------

Before some get carried away with hero worship regarding Ben Franklin
quotes, here's another one of his to consider:


“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing
good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or
driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions
were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of
course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for
them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.�

― Benjamin Franklin

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On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:19:04 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:



"Meyer" wrote in message
web.com...

On 2/13/2013 11:29 AM, thumper wrote:
On 2/13/2013 6:30 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 3:28 AM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:31:11 -0800, thumper
wrote:

On 2/12/2013 4:53 PM, BAR wrote:

When you trade security for liberty you soon have neither.

You have that backwards.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

Benjamin Franklin

Real wisdom doesn't fit so easily on a bumper sticker.

An asshole misquotes BF and you fall in line with the nonsense.
Figures.

http://tinyurl.com/ykv9lbs

It seems that I was wrong about the quote.

----------------------------------

Before some get carried away with hero worship regarding Ben Franklin
quotes, here's another one of his to consider:


“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing
good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or
driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions
were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of
course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for
them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”

? Benjamin Franklin

Sounds like another reason to 'hero worship' Mr. Franklin.

But, his attitude wouldn't win him many votes from those on welfare and not paying taxes - although
plenty able to work.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

You know you live in a Country run by idiots if... You have to have your
parents signature to go on a school field trip but not to get an abortion.

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On 2/13/2013 5:19 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Meyer" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 2/13/2013 11:29 AM, thumper wrote:
On 2/13/2013 6:30 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 3:28 AM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:31:11 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/12/2013 4:53 PM, BAR wrote:

When you trade security for liberty you soon have neither.

You have that backwards.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

Benjamin Franklin

Real wisdom doesn't fit so easily on a bumper sticker.

An asshole misquotes BF and you fall in line with the nonsense. Figures.

http://tinyurl.com/ykv9lbs

It seems that I was wrong about the quote.

----------------------------------

Before some get carried away with hero worship regarding Ben Franklin
quotes, here's another one of his to consider:


“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing
good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or
driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions
were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of
course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them,
the more they did for themselves, and became richer.�

― Benjamin Franklin

That won't resonate well with our liberal and progressive friends.

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On Feb 13, 2:28*am, jps wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:31:11 -0800, thumper wrote:
On 2/12/2013 4:53 PM, BAR wrote:

When you trade security for liberty you soon have neither.

You have that backwards.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

Benjamin Franklin

Real wisdom doesn't fit so easily on a bumper sticker.

http://i1.cpcache.com/product/160745...=240&width=240

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On Feb 13, 2:15*pm, jps wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:59:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Feb 13, 2:28*am, jps wrote:

Evidently, it is to gun nazis. *Anything that would curtail their
rights to freely buy and sell infringe on their God-given rights.

Nazis hated the idea of an armed public.

****ing imbeciles.

Yes, we fought against them in WW2.

Really, you should get your thought process in order.

I called them gun nazis, not Nazis. *Affixing behavioral tendencies to
a population of idiots who think owning a gun is a god given right but
safety and living without the threat of sudden death isn't.

Ask the people in l1930's Europe what they thought of 'gun nazis'
especially after they had nothing to defend themselves with.

We call that hypocritical in these parts.

Of course you would.

You ought to get your thought process in order. *Following Jesus and
standing up for the right to own a high capacity weapon don't seem
real copasetic.

My, how I admire your interpretation of theology!

BtW, the word is 'copacetic' oh Mr. "get a thesaurus"

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On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:57:13 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Feb 13, 2:15*pm, jps wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:59:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Feb 13, 2:28*am, jps wrote:

Evidently, it is to gun nazis. *Anything that would curtail their
rights to freely buy and sell infringe on their God-given rights.

Nazis hated the idea of an armed public.

****ing imbeciles.

Yes, we fought against them in WW2.

Really, you should get your thought process in order.

I called them gun nazis, not Nazis. *Affixing behavioral tendencies to
a population of idiots who think owning a gun is a god given right but
safety and living without the threat of sudden death isn't.

Ask the people in l1930's Europe what they thought of 'gun nazis'
especially after they had nothing to defend themselves with.

That's not really a valid argument. France had plenty of weapons...
where did it get them? Even the ghetto uprising in Poland was very
short-lived. The nazis pulverized the place.

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On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:43:34 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 2/13/2013 5:19 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Meyer" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 2/13/2013 11:29 AM, thumper wrote:
On 2/13/2013 6:30 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 3:28 AM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:31:11 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/12/2013 4:53 PM, BAR wrote:

When you trade security for liberty you soon have neither.

You have that backwards.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

Benjamin Franklin

Real wisdom doesn't fit so easily on a bumper sticker.

An asshole misquotes BF and you fall in line with the nonsense. Figures.

http://tinyurl.com/ykv9lbs

It seems that I was wrong about the quote.

----------------------------------

Before some get carried away with hero worship regarding Ben Franklin
quotes, here's another one of his to consider:


“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing
good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or
driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions
were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of
course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them,
the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”

? Benjamin Franklin

That won't resonate well with our liberal and progressive friends.

You misquoted him, and you don't know much about Franklin, clearly...

Franklin was hardly insensitive to the travails of the
overty-stricken: "But poverty often deprives a man of all spirit and
virtue: 'tis hard for an empty bag to stand upright." Additionally, he
seemed fairly unimpressed with the trappings of wealth: "The Poor have
little, Beggars none; the Rich too much, enough not one." And heck,
you give Franklin enough quote, and he can sound like a welfare-queen:
"The church the state, and the poor, are 3 daughters which we should
maintain, but not portion off."

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On 2/13/13 7:27 PM, Urin Asshole wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:43:34 -0500, Meyer wrote:

On 2/13/2013 5:19 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Meyer" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 2/13/2013 11:29 AM, thumper wrote:
On 2/13/2013 6:30 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 3:28 AM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:31:11 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/12/2013 4:53 PM, BAR wrote:

When you trade security for liberty you soon have neither.

You have that backwards.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

Benjamin Franklin

Real wisdom doesn't fit so easily on a bumper sticker.

An asshole misquotes BF and you fall in line with the nonsense. Figures.

http://tinyurl.com/ykv9lbs

It seems that I was wrong about the quote.

----------------------------------

Before some get carried away with hero worship regarding Ben Franklin
quotes, here's another one of his to consider:


“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing
good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or
driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions
were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of
course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them,
the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”

? Benjamin Franklin

That won't resonate well with our liberal and progressive friends.

You misquoted him, and you don't know much about Franklin, clearly...

Franklin was hardly insensitive to the travails of the
overty-stricken: "But poverty often deprives a man of all spirit and
virtue: 'tis hard for an empty bag to stand upright." Additionally, he
seemed fairly unimpressed with the trappings of wealth: "The Poor have
little, Beggars none; the Rich too much, enough not one." And heck,
you give Franklin enough quote, and he can sound like a welfare-queen:
"The church the state, and the poor, are 3 daughters which we should
maintain, but not portion off."


Franklin was a libertine, and certainly no conservative. He liked women
and therefore would have nothing to do with most of today's political
conservatives, who seem to hate women.

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On 2/13/2013 6:43 PM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 5:19 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"Meyer" wrote in message
eb.com...

On 2/13/2013 11:29 AM, thumper wrote:
On 2/13/2013 6:30 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 3:28 AM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:31:11 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/12/2013 4:53 PM, BAR wrote:

When you trade security for liberty you soon have neither.

You have that backwards.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

Benjamin Franklin

Real wisdom doesn't fit so easily on a bumper sticker.

An asshole misquotes BF and you fall in line with the nonsense.
Figures.

http://tinyurl.com/ykv9lbs

It seems that I was wrong about the quote.

----------------------------------

Before some get carried away with hero worship regarding Ben Franklin
quotes, here's another one of his to consider:


“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing
good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or
driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions
were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of
course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them,
the more they did for themselves, and became richer.�

― Benjamin Franklin

That won't resonate well with our liberal and progressive friends.

As long as Dick didn't leave a spelling error in there, all they can do
is call names:)