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On Friday, February 15, 2013 2:16:32 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:03:44 -0800, jps wrote:





College is either fully or partially subsedized in a lot of countries.

Our higher ed system isn't supported as well by government (taxes) so

if you ain't got the coin or access to credit, you're **** out of luck

here in the states.



What does college have to do with the hard core poverty problem?



These people can't even graduate from a dumbed down high school and it

os not for a lack of money We spend more than just about any other

country in the world with results down around #26.



The biggest single issue might be lack of a decent family but I am not

sure how the government can fix that. Throwing more welfare money at

the problem certainly has not worked. It rewards single parents.

Exactly right, Greg. Those foreign students tend to come from families (not absent single parent situations), and have been taught to value hard work and an education. Seems that most American kids these days value a new cell phone and a high score on the PlayStation.

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On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:16:32 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:03:44 -0800, jps wrote:


College is either fully or partially subsedized in a lot of countries.
Our higher ed system isn't supported as well by government (taxes) so
if you ain't got the coin or access to credit, you're **** out of luck
here in the states.

What does college have to do with the hard core poverty problem?

Great question. The first problem is getting the kids through high school.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...TyS_story.html

or: http://tinyurl.com/73l8ytl

Thank God for the charter schools.

"The new numbers also revealed a widening gap between the city’s public charter schools and
traditional public high schools in the ability to graduate students on time. Eight in 10 charter
seniors received diplomas last year, compared with slightly more than half of those in traditional
schools."


These people can't even graduate from a dumbed down high school and it
os not for a lack of money We spend more than just about any other
country in the world with results down around #26.

The biggest single issue might be lack of a decent family but I am not
sure how the government can fix that. Throwing more welfare money at
the problem certainly has not worked. It rewards single parents.



Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

You know you live in a Country run by idiots if...

....hard work and success are rewarded with higher taxes
and government intrusion, while slothful, lazy
behavior is rewarded with EBT cards, WIC checks,
Medicaid, subsidized housing, and free cell phones.

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On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:16:32 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:03:44 -0800, jps wrote:


College is either fully or partially subsedized in a lot of countries.
Our higher ed system isn't supported as well by government (taxes) so
if you ain't got the coin or access to credit, you're **** out of luck
here in the states.

What does college have to do with the hard core poverty problem?

These people can't even graduate from a dumbed down high school and it
os not for a lack of money We spend more than just about any other
country in the world with results down around #26.

The biggest single issue might be lack of a decent family but I am not
sure how the government can fix that. Throwing more welfare money at
the problem certainly has not worked. It rewards single parents.

I'd like to see you crawl out of poverty with a ****ty family
structure, going to bad inner city schools and with the non-preferable
skin color.

Odds are odds for a reason. They reflect the truth of circumstance.

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 10:02:59 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:16:32 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:03:44 -0800, jps wrote:


College is either fully or partially subsedized in a lot of countries.
Our higher ed system isn't supported as well by government (taxes) so
if you ain't got the coin or access to credit, you're **** out of luck
here in the states.

What does college have to do with the hard core poverty problem?

These people can't even graduate from a dumbed down high school and it
os not for a lack of money We spend more than just about any other
country in the world with results down around #26.

The biggest single issue might be lack of a decent family but I am not
sure how the government can fix that. Throwing more welfare money at
the problem certainly has not worked. It rewards single parents.

I'd like to see you crawl out of poverty with a ****ty family
structure, going to bad inner city schools and with the non-preferable
skin color.

Odds are odds for a reason. They reflect the truth of circumstance.

About the only thing we can change are the 'bad inner city schools'. And, maybe we should pass a law
or two making drugs and their sale illegal. Oh, and maybe we should make welfare checks a little
more difficult to get. That way kids won't be growing up thinking life should be a free ride.


Salmonbait

--
'Name-calling'...the liberals' answer to a lost argument!

You know you live in a Country run by idiots if...
....the death penalty is a 'no-no', but death by Hellfire
*without* a trial is AOK!

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says...

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 10:02:59 -0800, jps wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:16:32 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 11:03:44 -0800, jps wrote:


College is either fully or partially subsedized in a lot of countries.
Our higher ed system isn't supported as well by government (taxes) so
if you ain't got the coin or access to credit, you're **** out of luck
here in the states.

What does college have to do with the hard core poverty problem?

These people can't even graduate from a dumbed down high school and it
os not for a lack of money We spend more than just about any other
country in the world with results down around #26.

The biggest single issue might be lack of a decent family but I am not
sure how the government can fix that. Throwing more welfare money at
the problem certainly has not worked. It rewards single parents.

I'd like to see you crawl out of poverty with a ****ty family
structure, going to bad inner city schools and with the non-preferable
skin color.

Odds are odds for a reason. They reflect the truth of circumstance.

About the only thing we can change are the 'bad inner city schools'. And, maybe we should pass a law
or two making drugs and their sale illegal. Oh, and maybe we should make welfare checks a little
more difficult to get. That way kids won't be growing up thinking life should be a free ride.


Salmonbait

Actually, studies show that drug use goes down when drugs are legalized.
But then again, someone as narrow minded as you wouldn't know that.
In the U.S. we tried Prohibition to curb alcohol use. The result? A lot
of alcoholics and death from illegally made alcohol. That would tell a
normal person something, but I'm sure it's lost on you.

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:10:31 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:16:41 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

t

Actually, studies show that drug use goes down when drugs are legalized.
But then again, someone as narrow minded as you wouldn't know that.
In the U.S. we tried Prohibition to curb alcohol use. The result? A lot
of alcoholics and death from illegally made alcohol. That would tell a
normal person something, but I'm sure it's lost on you.

I agree the drug war is stupid but it is a jobs program, not only for
the cops but for otherwise unemployable inner city kids.
In some neighborhoods the illegal drug trade is the main source of
money coming into the area.
Much like the runaway pentagon budget and cuts, there are lots of
people who depend on drugs being illegal.

Give me a ****in break. Everything that you don't like is a "jobs
program". As misguided as it is, it's not a ****in jobs program.
Jeesus what a bunch of bull****.

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On 2/17/2013 9:26 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:01:56 -0800, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:10:31 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:16:41 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

t

Actually, studies show that drug use goes down when drugs are legalized.
But then again, someone as narrow minded as you wouldn't know that.
In the U.S. we tried Prohibition to curb alcohol use. The result? A lot
of alcoholics and death from illegally made alcohol. That would tell a
normal person something, but I'm sure it's lost on you.

I agree the drug war is stupid but it is a jobs program, not only for
the cops but for otherwise unemployable inner city kids.
In some neighborhoods the illegal drug trade is the main source of
money coming into the area.
Much like the runaway pentagon budget and cuts, there are lots of
people who depend on drugs being illegal.

Give me a ****in break. Everything that you don't like is a "jobs
program". As misguided as it is, it's not a ****in jobs program.
Jeesus what a bunch of bull****.

Drug dealing is the biggest employer in parts of some cities,
particularly among the otherwise unemployable. You can't ignore a
million dollar enterprise in a place where the median income is less
than $20,000


Drug dealing? You think that's where the power is? Not any more man, you
all are missing it. The dealers are little fish, now that 90% of the pot
sold is domestic rather than imported, they want in on that. Do you
really think Cali legalized out of compassion? LOL! They took control of
the cultivation, that's where the taxes are. At the same time they have
diluted the quality and increased the price as most of the better
growers sell to private folks in smaller circles, and are not interested
in screwing with the tax man... or the crime/attention that surrounds
those clubs.

And while we are at it... whoever said legalization leads to less use,
is full of ****, period.

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On 2/17/13 9:58 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:

Drug dealing? You think that's where the power is? Not any more man, you
all are missing it. The dealers are little fish, now that 90% of the pot
sold is domestic rather than imported, they want in on that. Do you
really think Cali legalized out of compassion? LOL! They took control of
the cultivation, that's where the taxes are. At the same time they have
diluted the quality and increased the price as most of the better
growers sell to private folks in smaller circles, and are not interested
in screwing with the tax man... or the crime/attention that surrounds
those clubs.

And while we are at it... whoever said legalization leads to less use,
is full of ****, period.

L

Legalization leads to far fewer arrests for personal use of pot. Do you
roll your own joints, too?

--
I'm a *Liberal* because I knew the militant christian fundamentalist
racist militaristic xenophobic corporate oligarchy wasn't going to work
for me.

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 21:26:29 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:01:56 -0800, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:10:31 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:16:41 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

t

Actually, studies show that drug use goes down when drugs are legalized.
But then again, someone as narrow minded as you wouldn't know that.
In the U.S. we tried Prohibition to curb alcohol use. The result? A lot
of alcoholics and death from illegally made alcohol. That would tell a
normal person something, but I'm sure it's lost on you.

I agree the drug war is stupid but it is a jobs program, not only for
the cops but for otherwise unemployable inner city kids.
In some neighborhoods the illegal drug trade is the main source of
money coming into the area.
Much like the runaway pentagon budget and cuts, there are lots of
people who depend on drugs being illegal.

Give me a ****in break. Everything that you don't like is a "jobs
program". As misguided as it is, it's not a ****in jobs program.
Jeesus what a bunch of bull****.

Drug dealing is the biggest employer in parts of some cities,
particularly among the otherwise unemployable. You can't ignore a
million dollar enterprise in a place where the median income is less
than $20,000

So, it's free enterprise, not some gov't jobs program. As I said, give
me a break.

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On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 01:37:17 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:44:45 -0800, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 21:26:29 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:01:56 -0800, Urin Asshole
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:10:31 -0500, wrote:


Drug dealing is the biggest employer in parts of some cities,
particularly among the otherwise unemployable. You can't ignore a
million dollar enterprise in a place where the median income is less
than $20,000

So, it's free enterprise, not some gov't jobs program. As I said, give
me a break.

Where did I say "Federal" jobs program. I only said it was the biggest
part of the economy in those areas. Most of this money is in heroin,
crank and crack.

As for the pot, I know people in Colorado who say they have the best
pot in the country, far better than the ragweed that they used to get
from Mexico. It is also very expensive. The government tacks on a tax
of around $50 an oz. ($400 an oz is not uncommon). I did not partake
when I was there a couple years ago. (No RX card)
It is yet to see if competition brings down the price.

If it's free enterprise, then it isn't a "jobs" program. More
right-wing playbook wordplay. Give us a break.