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On 2/13/2013 11:29 AM, thumper wrote:
On 2/13/2013 6:30 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 3:28 AM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:31:11 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/12/2013 4:53 PM, BAR wrote:

When you trade security for liberty you soon have neither.

You have that backwards.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

Benjamin Franklin

Real wisdom doesn't fit so easily on a bumper sticker.

An asshole misquotes BF and you fall in line with the nonsense. Figures.

http://tinyurl.com/ykv9lbs

It seems that I was wrong about the quote.

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On 2/13/2013 11:59 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 11:29 AM, thumper wrote:
On 2/13/2013 6:30 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 3:28 AM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:31:11 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/12/2013 4:53 PM, BAR wrote:

When you trade security for liberty you soon have neither.

You have that backwards.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

Benjamin Franklin

Real wisdom doesn't fit so easily on a bumper sticker.

An asshole misquotes BF and you fall in line with the nonsense. Figures.

http://tinyurl.com/ykv9lbs

It seems that I was wrong about the quote.

Yeah, about as effective of an argument as a spelling error though... it
is, what it is.. It means what it means.

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In article ,
says...

On 2/13/2013 11:59 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 11:29 AM, thumper wrote:
On 2/13/2013 6:30 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 3:28 AM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:31:11 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/12/2013 4:53 PM, BAR wrote:

When you trade security for liberty you soon have neither.

You have that backwards.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

Benjamin Franklin

Real wisdom doesn't fit so easily on a bumper sticker.

An asshole misquotes BF and you fall in line with the nonsense. Figures.

http://tinyurl.com/ykv9lbs

It seems that I was wrong about the quote.

Yeah, about as effective of an argument as a spelling error though... it
is, what it is.. It means what it means.

Oh, you stupid fool!!! Are you really trying to say that a misquote
means exactly the same as the original always??

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On 2/13/2013 8:59 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 11:29 AM, thumper wrote:
On 2/13/2013 6:30 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 3:28 AM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:31:11 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/12/2013 4:53 PM, BAR wrote:

When you trade security for liberty you soon have neither.

You have that backwards.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

Benjamin Franklin

Real wisdom doesn't fit so easily on a bumper sticker.

An asshole misquotes BF and you fall in line with the nonsense. Figures.

http://tinyurl.com/ykv9lbs

It seems that I was wrong about the quote.

And that jps was falling in line, he was saying it *isn't* that simple.

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On 2/13/13 12:04 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute wrote:
On 2/13/2013 11:59 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 11:29 AM, thumper wrote:
On 2/13/2013 6:30 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 3:28 AM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:31:11 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/12/2013 4:53 PM, BAR wrote:

When you trade security for liberty you soon have neither.

You have that backwards.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

Benjamin Franklin

Real wisdom doesn't fit so easily on a bumper sticker.

An asshole misquotes BF and you fall in line with the nonsense.
Figures.

http://tinyurl.com/ykv9lbs

It seems that I was wrong about the quote.

Yeah, about as effective of an argument as a spelling error though... it
is, what it is.. It means what it means.


It's no surprise that a misquote to you is no more significant than a
spelling error. You're the poster boy of laziness, ignorance, and
stupidity. No wonder you are a "tea partying loonitarian."

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"ESAD" wrote in message
m...

On 2/11/13 1:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:31:45 -0800, jps wrote:


Wow! First shooting of the week. Guess the armed guards at the
entrance and the scanners didn't work.

What now, NRA? More guns and scanners?

How about a law that says 'no shootings unless authorized by TSA'?

What would be your solution, jps? Amend the Constitution, search out and
seize all individually
owned firearms?

Or pretend that pointing out shootings on rec.boats is an important thing
to do. Perhaps you should
add Canadian and Mexican shootings to your postings.


Salmonbait

What is your solution?


His solution is, of course, more guns.


--------------

Does not take guns to murder. Our friends daughter was kidnapped, tortured
and murdered 10 years ago. The make and female were captured and have been
on death row for years. No gun used by the perps. A gun carried by Vanessa
might have saved her life. The point is that there are lowlifes out there
who do not care if guns are outlawed, they will still find a way to harm and
kill. England has lots of not gun murders. And guns are not that hard to
obtain for the criminal element according to Scotland Yard studies. Our
murder rate would actually be pretty low if we discounted Thug on Thug
killings. The drug wars are a war, and mostly between competing drug
suppliers. Legalize most drugs, and the murder rate would drop
precipitously. As to the school shooters, etc. We have not real
psychological health system and most of that is not very good. Other than
administering more drugs, there does not seem to be cures. Also the Thug
and Thug culture, is a massive breakdown of family and societal mores.

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On 2/13/2013 2:05 PM, Califbill wrote:
"ESAD" wrote in message
m...

On 2/11/13 1:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:31:45 -0800, jps wrote:


Wow! First shooting of the week. Guess the armed guards at the
entrance and the scanners didn't work.

What now, NRA? More guns and scanners?

How about a law that says 'no shootings unless authorized by TSA'?

What would be your solution, jps? Amend the Constitution, search out
and seize all individually
owned firearms?

Or pretend that pointing out shootings on rec.boats is an important
thing to do. Perhaps you should
add Canadian and Mexican shootings to your postings.


Salmonbait

What is your solution?


His solution is, of course, more guns.


--------------

Does not take guns to murder. Our friends daughter was kidnapped,
tortured and murdered 10 years ago. The make and female were captured
and have been on death row for years. No gun used by the perps. A gun
carried by Vanessa might have saved her life. The point is that there
are lowlifes out there who do not care if guns are outlawed, they will
still find a way to harm and kill. England has lots of not gun
murders. And guns are not that hard to obtain for the criminal element
according to Scotland Yard studies. Our murder rate would actually be
pretty low if we discounted Thug on Thug killings. The drug wars are a
war, and mostly between competing drug suppliers. Legalize most drugs,
and the murder rate would drop precipitously. As to the school
shooters, etc. We have not real psychological health system and most of
that is not very good. Other than administering more drugs, there does
not seem to be cures. Also the Thug and Thug culture, is a massive
breakdown of family and societal mores.


Yeah, and you got guys dressing up like the joker and guys writing
twenty page manifestos on Facebook and the administration doesn't see
the connection between the entertainment media and murder... cause
entertainment media (ie zukerberg et al) gave them so much vacation money...

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On 2/13/2013 12:19 PM, thumper wrote:
On 2/13/2013 8:59 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 11:29 AM, thumper wrote:
On 2/13/2013 6:30 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 2/13/2013 3:28 AM, jps wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:31:11 -0800, thumper wrote:

On 2/12/2013 4:53 PM, BAR wrote:

When you trade security for liberty you soon have neither.

You have that backwards.

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little
Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"

Benjamin Franklin

Real wisdom doesn't fit so easily on a bumper sticker.

An asshole misquotes BF and you fall in line with the nonsense.
Figures.

http://tinyurl.com/ykv9lbs

It seems that I was wrong about the quote.

And that jps was falling in line, he was saying it *isn't* that simple.

OMG Are you Loogie?

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On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:59:57 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Feb 13, 2:28*am, jps wrote:


Evidently, it is to gun nazis. *Anything that would curtail their
rights to freely buy and sell infringe on their God-given rights.


Nazis hated the idea of an armed public.

****ing imbeciles.

Yes, we fought against them in WW2.

Really, you should get your thought process in order.

I called them gun nazis, not Nazis. Affixing behavioral tendencies to
a population of idiots who think owning a gun is a god given right but
safety and living without the threat of sudden death isn't.

We call that hypocritical in these parts.

You ought to get your thought process in order. Following Jesus and
standing up for the right to own a high capacity weapon don't seem
real copasetic.

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On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:24:46 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:43:54 -0800, jps wrote:

On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 05:13:50 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Feb 12, 7:06*am, ESAD wrote:
On 2/12/13 7:59 AM, Tim wrote:









On Feb 12, 6:46 am, ESAD wrote:
It seems perfectly appropriate to be really upset at the number of
gun-caused murders in this country. If you are not really upset, then
there is something wrong with you.

It's very upsetting, Harry. but not to the point of drama. People live
and people die.I''m aware of what *the murder rate is especially in my
state. *But John had a valid question, What would JPS suggest doing
about it. Instead of a *a comprehensive answer he gets cussed,
insulted and demeaned.

So...

"People live and people die." Wow.

Can you deny it?

Herring is a racist, and deserves all the cussing, insults and demeaning
comments he gets.

Over asking for a comprehensive answer to someones continual rant?

1. We can certainly do a lot more to try to cut down on the number of
fellow beings who are cut down by guns. By doing so, we are, in a way,
denying that sort of death.

No doubt.

2. Herring has no interest in "comprehensive answers" to gun deaths or
any of the other serious social ills that plague our society. It's
obvious from his never-ending, simple-minded and hate-filled posts and
comments.


I've asked JPS the same question and have never received any kind of a
a response worth having. More name-calling, more spewing, and more
brain-rattling dementia.

Do you have a solution, Harry? No. No you don't. You have some ideas
on how to help curb the gun murdder rate, the same as I .but that's
not a cure.

You can't even get that much from the OP.

So...

Close the gun show loopholes.

Make sales between private parties a legal process, just like buying a
car, and include a background check.

There is no single solution, there are incremental steps to managing
the otherwise out-of-control free-for-all that is the gun market
today.

Getting drunk driving automobile deaths under control took three
decades but by working all sides of the issue, the rate has declined
by 2/3 over those three decades.

You fruitcakes who think it's just daily business with people getting
shot and killed need to have a family member or close friend die of a
random act of gun mayhem to wake the **** up?

Spectacular ideas!

They should be put in a letter to your congresspeople immediately.


Salmonbait

That doesn't mean you won't ask the same ****ing question in 10
minutes and claim that I haven't given you an answer. Have you had a
test for Old Timers disease yet?