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On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 12:25:33 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Tue, 8 Jan 2013 08:43:22 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 16:50:12 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 16:05:50 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

Can stuff be downloaded to a kindle from the e-book groups?

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Yes, indirectly, through your computer and a USB cable, or uploaded to
Amazon for a small fee.

Here are some links you might find useful:

http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/20/want-to-send-a-document-to-your-kindle-15-cents-please/

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200375630

http://nancyhendrickson.com/selling-your-work/preparing-your-book-or-article-for-kindle-part-ii/

Thanks, Wayne. Good to know in case the library runs out of e-books.

Um, how does a library "run out of e-books"???

They only have so many licenses for a book. You check out E-books just
like regular books as far as the copyright holder is concerned..

But they don't run out. Someone returns, another gets it. Just like a
real book.

Perhaps he wants a new book, not something he has already read or
something he has no interest in. I know the e-reader people I know
complain the library E book selection is limited and the "good" books
are on a waiting list. If you are one of those people who want to read
the best sellers, they really want you to buy it

That's not what he said. He said "Good to know in case the library runs
out of e-books". He said NOTHING about a NEW book.

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On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 21:02:12 -0500, ESAD wrote:

Perhaps he wants a new book, not something he has already read or
something he has no interest in. I know the e-reader people I know
complain the library E book selection is limited and the "good" books
are on a waiting list. If you are one of those people who want to read
the best sellers, they really want you to buy it



I'm not a fan of ebooks, but my wife is. She downloads a couple a week
from our local public library, and also downloads "freebies" via her
Amazon "prime" account. But she still visits the library to borrow
traditional books, too. So do I.

It seems like all of the "hot books are fiction and I don't read that
anymore. Real life is unbelievably interesting enough for me.

As some may have guessed I am a Thomas junkie, actually reading the
bills few of our representatives and none of the media ever read.

I found this gem in the first "Sandy bill" (H.R.1)

"For an additional amount for `Procurement of Ammunition, Army',
$1,310,000, to remain available until September 30, 2015, for
necessary expenses related to the consequences of Hurricane Sandy:"

Huh? Why does the Army need a million three of extra ammunition "for
necessary expenses related to the consequences of Hurricane Sandy:"?

How many of the survivors do they think they will need to shoot?

It is that **** that makes Boehner look correct in not taking the bill
seriously.

Excuses, excuses...... Gee, how come not one single politician on the
right said, "we are not going to allow voting on the bill because of the
pork in it"???

On 1/9/13 8:39 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 1/8/13 7:10 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/8/2013 6:50 PM, BAR wrote:
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says...

On 1/8/13 11:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 1/8/2013 8:03 AM, BAR wrote:
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says...

On 1/7/13 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 11:19:52 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/7/13 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:33:11 -0500, iBoaterer
wrote:



That's odd, Mr. Internet Guru.... I use the same reader as
you, and I
have no problems! And of course, name calling is what happens
when you
have been found, once again, to be a complete idiot. How
Harryesque.
Notice, if you will, the only ones to have trouble with the
links I
provide are you, Greg and Meyer.... Everyone else says it's
not a
problem!!! Hmmmmmm?

I know how to paste but I have to open a new browser instance,
paste
the url, delete the space and launch it instead of simply
clicking the
link.

It is really seldom worth the effort for the crap you link.



Well, perhaps if you weren't using a 19th Century news reader
like Forte
Agent...

There are a number of reasons for using a simpler news reader than
Outlook or some other bloatware.
For one thing, it runs off a thumb drive and will execute on any
windoze platform without actually being installed. That is handy if
you have more than one machine.



You must follow some usenet groups other than rec.boats, because
carrying a thumb drive to be able to read this one from any windoze
machine seems a waste of time and effort, considering the lack of
content here.

Facebook, interestingly, updates itself to its users no matter what
machine they are on. If I visit with my iMac and then the next
day visit
with my tablet, my stuff to read is just where I left it after I
logged
out with the iMac...the old stuff I've already read is way down
at the
bottom of the list. Of course, no one really gives a damn about
usenet
anymore, so development ceased ages ago.

Facebook is a marketing tool, data mining specifically. There is no
other value to anyone but its users than the data and their
interconnections.


Yup, FB is real hard looking to have every face tagged.. Even try
to get
your friends to put tags to your face in there. I am sure they already
have all the data they need for a full face recognition on most of the
county by now....

Insane Scotty thinking Facebook is going to take over the world..
Like a
guy I heard call in on the radio yesterday, claiming that he thinks
China has GPS coordinates for every American and are going to use them
to send bumblebee like drones to inject us with poison!!!! Just
about as
sane....



I don't give a **** what FB tracks. There are ways to stay "private" on
FB and there are apps available that help you customize it to your
liking, including the elimination of virtually all advertising.

You really don't have a clue do you. You can register an account on FB
using any alias you want. The facial recognition software will pick you
out of any picture and associate it to Harry Krause by the process of
eliminiation.

Through FB, I've been able to re-connect with dozens of people I've
known over the decades and meet some new people, too, including actual
boaters from all around the world, and I've hooked up with a couple of
SIGs that have some really funny stuff, travel info, food, et cetera,
and all this without any of the right-wing assholes who have destroyed
rec.boats.

You are willingly giving FB what they seek, relationships. They really
don't care about you playing Farmville and Mafia Wars they want to know
who you chat with about Farmvill and Mafia Wars.

What you don't understand is that the fact that you exist isn't
interesting to FB. The fact that you tell them that you know someone is
what they are looking for.



I think it's more of a charting of your lifestyle...

I don't play Farmville or Mafia Wars or any other FB games, nor do I
use any FB "apps," and I have only "liked" a couple of restaurants of
which I have personal knowledge. I've set up as much FB privacy as is
allowed, and I restrict those who can see my posts directly to a
relatively short list of friends, most of whom I have known personally
for decades.

Does it matter to me that FB knows that I know Judy from high school or
Joe from college? No.

You haven't got a clue about how FB and Google use information.

Or Apple.


Especially Amazon. Why those sneaky *******s keep track of what we buy
there and send us occasional messages about similar products we might
like. How awful!

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On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 14:41:21 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

Maybe we could use the Home Depot card, which is free, as a voter ID card?

If it has your picture on it, you can in Florida. I have used my Sam's
card before

Bull****! From:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/gen-faq.shtml#link1



What kind of identification do I need to bring to the polls?
When you go to the polling place to vote, you will be asked to provide a
current and valid picture identification with a signature. Approved
forms of picture identification a Florida driver's license; Florida
identification card issued by the Department of Highway Safety and Motor
Vehicles; United States passport; debit or credit card; military
identification; student identification; retirement center
identification; neighborhood association identification; and public
assistance identification. (Section 101.043, F.S.) If the picture
identification does not contain a signature, you will be asked to
provide an additional identification with your signature.

On 1/9/13 8:49 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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says...

On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 14:41:21 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

Maybe we could use the Home Depot card, which is free, as a voter ID card?

If it has your picture on it, you can in Florida. I have used my Sam's
card before

Bull****! From:
http://election.dos.state.fl.us/gen-faq.shtml#link1



What kind of identification do I need to bring to the polls?


None in Maryland.

On 1/9/2013 7:46 AM, BAR wrote:
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On 1/8/13 7:10 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/8/2013 6:50 PM, BAR wrote:
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says...

On 1/8/13 11:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 1/8/2013 8:03 AM, BAR wrote:
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says...

On 1/7/13 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 11:19:52 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/7/13 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:33:11 -0500, iBoaterer
wrote:



That's odd, Mr. Internet Guru.... I use the same reader as
you, and I
have no problems! And of course, name calling is what happens
when you
have been found, once again, to be a complete idiot. How
Harryesque.
Notice, if you will, the only ones to have trouble with the
links I
provide are you, Greg and Meyer.... Everyone else says it's
not a
problem!!! Hmmmmmm?

I know how to paste but I have to open a new browser instance,
paste
the url, delete the space and launch it instead of simply
clicking the
link.

It is really seldom worth the effort for the crap you link.



Well, perhaps if you weren't using a 19th Century news reader
like Forte
Agent...

There are a number of reasons for using a simpler news reader than
Outlook or some other bloatware.
For one thing, it runs off a thumb drive and will execute on any
windoze platform without actually being installed. That is handy if
you have more than one machine.



You must follow some usenet groups other than rec.boats, because
carrying a thumb drive to be able to read this one from any windoze
machine seems a waste of time and effort, considering the lack of
content here.

Facebook, interestingly, updates itself to its users no matter what
machine they are on. If I visit with my iMac and then the next
day visit
with my tablet, my stuff to read is just where I left it after I
logged
out with the iMac...the old stuff I've already read is way down
at the
bottom of the list. Of course, no one really gives a damn about
usenet
anymore, so development ceased ages ago.

Facebook is a marketing tool, data mining specifically. There is no
other value to anyone but its users than the data and their
interconnections.


Yup, FB is real hard looking to have every face tagged.. Even try
to get
your friends to put tags to your face in there. I am sure they already
have all the data they need for a full face recognition on most of the
county by now....

Insane Scotty thinking Facebook is going to take over the world..
Like a
guy I heard call in on the radio yesterday, claiming that he thinks
China has GPS coordinates for every American and are going to use them
to send bumblebee like drones to inject us with poison!!!! Just
about as
sane....



I don't give a **** what FB tracks. There are ways to stay "private" on
FB and there are apps available that help you customize it to your
liking, including the elimination of virtually all advertising.

You really don't have a clue do you. You can register an account on FB
using any alias you want. The facial recognition software will pick you
out of any picture and associate it to Harry Krause by the process of
eliminiation.

Through FB, I've been able to re-connect with dozens of people I've
known over the decades and meet some new people, too, including actual
boaters from all around the world, and I've hooked up with a couple of
SIGs that have some really funny stuff, travel info, food, et cetera,
and all this without any of the right-wing assholes who have destroyed
rec.boats.

You are willingly giving FB what they seek, relationships. They really
don't care about you playing Farmville and Mafia Wars they want to know
who you chat with about Farmvill and Mafia Wars.

What you don't understand is that the fact that you exist isn't
interesting to FB. The fact that you tell them that you know someone is
what they are looking for.



I think it's more of a charting of your lifestyle...

I don't play Farmville or Mafia Wars or any other FB games, nor do I
use any FB "apps," and I have only "liked" a couple of restaurants of
which I have personal knowledge. I've set up as much FB privacy as is
allowed, and I restrict those who can see my posts directly to a
relatively short list of friends, most of whom I have known personally
for decades.

Does it matter to me that FB knows that I know Judy from high school or
Joe from college? No.

You haven't got a clue about how FB and Google use information.


He really is clueless....

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 14:43:00 -0500, Salmonbait
wrote:

They only have so many licenses for a book. You check out E-books just
like regular books as far as the copyright holder is concerned..

Why waste the time?

... to get free books?
It is even online here in Lee County.
They download to your device and time out after a while or you can
"return" them.

Same here.

On 1/9/13 8:54 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/9/2013 7:46 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/8/13 7:10 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/8/2013 6:50 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/8/13 11:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/8/2013 8:03 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/7/13 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 11:19:52 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/7/13 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:33:11 -0500, iBoaterer
wrote:



That's odd, Mr. Internet Guru.... I use the same reader as
you, and I
have no problems! And of course, name calling is what happens
when you
have been found, once again, to be a complete idiot. How
Harryesque.
Notice, if you will, the only ones to have trouble with the
links I
provide are you, Greg and Meyer.... Everyone else says it's
not a
problem!!! Hmmmmmm?

I know how to paste but I have to open a new browser instance,
paste
the url, delete the space and launch it instead of simply
clicking the
link.

It is really seldom worth the effort for the crap you link.



Well, perhaps if you weren't using a 19th Century news reader
like Forte
Agent...

There are a number of reasons for using a simpler news reader
than
Outlook or some other bloatware.
For one thing, it runs off a thumb drive and will execute on any
windoze platform without actually being installed. That is
handy if
you have more than one machine.



You must follow some usenet groups other than rec.boats, because
carrying a thumb drive to be able to read this one from any
windoze
machine seems a waste of time and effort, considering the lack of
content here.

Facebook, interestingly, updates itself to its users no matter
what
machine they are on. If I visit with my iMac and then the next
day visit
with my tablet, my stuff to read is just where I left it after I
logged
out with the iMac...the old stuff I've already read is way down
at the
bottom of the list. Of course, no one really gives a damn about
usenet
anymore, so development ceased ages ago.

Facebook is a marketing tool, data mining specifically. There
is no
other value to anyone but its users than the data and their
interconnections.


Yup, FB is real hard looking to have every face tagged.. Even try
to get
your friends to put tags to your face in there. I am sure they
already
have all the data they need for a full face recognition on most
of the
county by now....

Insane Scotty thinking Facebook is going to take over the world..
Like a
guy I heard call in on the radio yesterday, claiming that he thinks
China has GPS coordinates for every American and are going to use
them
to send bumblebee like drones to inject us with poison!!!! Just
about as
sane....



I don't give a **** what FB tracks. There are ways to stay
"private" on
FB and there are apps available that help you customize it to your
liking, including the elimination of virtually all advertising.

You really don't have a clue do you. You can register an account on FB
using any alias you want. The facial recognition software will pick
you
out of any picture and associate it to Harry Krause by the process of
eliminiation.

Through FB, I've been able to re-connect with dozens of people I've
known over the decades and meet some new people, too, including
actual
boaters from all around the world, and I've hooked up with a
couple of
SIGs that have some really funny stuff, travel info, food, et cetera,
and all this without any of the right-wing assholes who have
destroyed
rec.boats.

You are willingly giving FB what they seek, relationships. They really
don't care about you playing Farmville and Mafia Wars they want to
know
who you chat with about Farmvill and Mafia Wars.

What you don't understand is that the fact that you exist isn't
interesting to FB. The fact that you tell them that you know
someone is
what they are looking for.



I think it's more of a charting of your lifestyle...

I don't play Farmville or Mafia Wars or any other FB games, nor do I
use any FB "apps," and I have only "liked" a couple of restaurants of
which I have personal knowledge. I've set up as much FB privacy as is
allowed, and I restrict those who can see my posts directly to a
relatively short list of friends, most of whom I have known personally
for decades.

Does it matter to me that FB knows that I know Judy from high school or
Joe from college? No.

You haven't got a clue about how FB and Google use information.


He really is clueless....


Enlighten us, oh gnome of the north. How, exactly, are FB and Google
using *my* information.

In article , says...

On 1/9/2013 7:46 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/8/13 7:10 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/8/2013 6:50 PM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/8/13 11:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 1/8/2013 8:03 AM, BAR wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 1/7/13 12:03 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 11:19:52 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 1/7/13 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 6 Jan 2013 09:33:11 -0500, iBoaterer
wrote:



That's odd, Mr. Internet Guru.... I use the same reader as
you, and I
have no problems! And of course, name calling is what happens
when you
have been found, once again, to be a complete idiot. How
Harryesque.
Notice, if you will, the only ones to have trouble with the
links I
provide are you, Greg and Meyer.... Everyone else says it's
not a
problem!!! Hmmmmmm?

I know how to paste but I have to open a new browser instance,
paste
the url, delete the space and launch it instead of simply
clicking the
link.

It is really seldom worth the effort for the crap you link.



Well, perhaps if you weren't using a 19th Century news reader
like Forte
Agent...

There are a number of reasons for using a simpler news reader than
Outlook or some other bloatware.
For one thing, it runs off a thumb drive and will execute on any
windoze platform without actually being installed. That is handy if
you have more than one machine.



You must follow some usenet groups other than rec.boats, because
carrying a thumb drive to be able to read this one from any windoze
machine seems a waste of time and effort, considering the lack of
content here.

Facebook, interestingly, updates itself to its users no matter what
machine they are on. If I visit with my iMac and then the next
day visit
with my tablet, my stuff to read is just where I left it after I
logged
out with the iMac...the old stuff I've already read is way down
at the
bottom of the list. Of course, no one really gives a damn about
usenet
anymore, so development ceased ages ago.

Facebook is a marketing tool, data mining specifically. There is no
other value to anyone but its users than the data and their
interconnections.


Yup, FB is real hard looking to have every face tagged.. Even try
to get
your friends to put tags to your face in there. I am sure they already
have all the data they need for a full face recognition on most of the
county by now....

Insane Scotty thinking Facebook is going to take over the world..
Like a
guy I heard call in on the radio yesterday, claiming that he thinks
China has GPS coordinates for every American and are going to use them
to send bumblebee like drones to inject us with poison!!!! Just
about as
sane....



I don't give a **** what FB tracks. There are ways to stay "private" on
FB and there are apps available that help you customize it to your
liking, including the elimination of virtually all advertising.

You really don't have a clue do you. You can register an account on FB
using any alias you want. The facial recognition software will pick you
out of any picture and associate it to Harry Krause by the process of
eliminiation.

Through FB, I've been able to re-connect with dozens of people I've
known over the decades and meet some new people, too, including actual
boaters from all around the world, and I've hooked up with a couple of
SIGs that have some really funny stuff, travel info, food, et cetera,
and all this without any of the right-wing assholes who have destroyed
rec.boats.

You are willingly giving FB what they seek, relationships. They really
don't care about you playing Farmville and Mafia Wars they want to know
who you chat with about Farmvill and Mafia Wars.

What you don't understand is that the fact that you exist isn't
interesting to FB. The fact that you tell them that you know someone is
what they are looking for.



I think it's more of a charting of your lifestyle...

I don't play Farmville or Mafia Wars or any other FB games, nor do I
use any FB "apps," and I have only "liked" a couple of restaurants of
which I have personal knowledge. I've set up as much FB privacy as is
allowed, and I restrict those who can see my posts directly to a
relatively short list of friends, most of whom I have known personally
for decades.

Does it matter to me that FB knows that I know Judy from high school or
Joe from college? No.

You haven't got a clue about how FB and Google use information.


He really is clueless....

Well, please, do enlighten those, oh wise one. Please give statistics,
software used, etc.

On 1/9/2013 12:13 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 09:03:52 -0500, ESAD wrote:

You haven't got a clue about how FB and Google use information.


He really is clueless....


Enlighten us, oh gnome of the north. How, exactly, are FB and Google
using *my* information.


They sell it to the highest bidder and who knows what that bidder
wants it for, but you can bet it is to try to sell you something.

On the other hand that is a target rich environment for hackers who
want to steal something. None of these places seem that secure to me.
Most have been hacked on some level.


You do realize the DOD has complete control of the data, right?