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What the 'ell??
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What the 'ell??
On 1/2/13 4:51 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:15:35 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/2/13 3:10 PM, wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:32:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: no possession of mags or clips that can hold more than 10 rounds, with a 180 day turn in period for such items. How much "just compensation" will the government be offering ... or are we tossing out the 5th amendment too? Something fair could be worked out. CDNN is selling hi-cap mags for rifle for around $20 to $30. That might be a reasonable idea. How many do you think would get turned in? If the street price was closer to $50 or $100, guess where most would end up? If you did have the feds registering all of the guns and certifying all of the shooters, do you think the anti gun people would get off our backs or would it just be a prelude to confiscation? For me it is not that big a deal. I own an NFA firearm so I have been vetted by BATF and I have a CCW so state knows I have had education and I carry a card. If possession after a date certain were a felony with serious consequences, such as, for example, a substantial fine and loss of one's legal ability to own a firearm, then I suspect a lot will be turned in. |
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What the 'ell??
On 1/2/13 8:15 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:15:03 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/2/13 4:51 PM, wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:15:35 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/2/13 3:10 PM, wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:32:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: no possession of mags or clips that can hold more than 10 rounds, with a 180 day turn in period for such items. How much "just compensation" will the government be offering ... or are we tossing out the 5th amendment too? Something fair could be worked out. CDNN is selling hi-cap mags for rifle for around $20 to $30. That might be a reasonable idea. How many do you think would get turned in? If the street price was closer to $50 or $100, guess where most would end up? If you did have the feds registering all of the guns and certifying all of the shooters, do you think the anti gun people would get off our backs or would it just be a prelude to confiscation? For me it is not that big a deal. I own an NFA firearm so I have been vetted by BATF and I have a CCW so state knows I have had education and I carry a card. If possession after a date certain were a felony with serious consequences, such as, for example, a substantial fine and loss of one's legal ability to own a firearm, then I suspect a lot will be turned in. The law abiding people might turn them in but that is not who poses the problem. I think you night even find a number of otherwise law abiding people who would stuff a few under the insulation in the attic or something, assuming the law would be repealed or simply ruled against in court. I think the public is tiring of the "Nothing will work, so let's do nothing" response. |
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#6
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What the 'ell??
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says... On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 17:15:03 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/2/13 4:51 PM, wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:15:35 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/2/13 3:10 PM, wrote: On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 13:32:30 -0500, ESAD wrote: no possession of mags or clips that can hold more than 10 rounds, with a 180 day turn in period for such items. How much "just compensation" will the government be offering ... or are we tossing out the 5th amendment too? Something fair could be worked out. CDNN is selling hi-cap mags for rifle for around $20 to $30. That might be a reasonable idea. How many do you think would get turned in? If the street price was closer to $50 or $100, guess where most would end up? If you did have the feds registering all of the guns and certifying all of the shooters, do you think the anti gun people would get off our backs or would it just be a prelude to confiscation? For me it is not that big a deal. I own an NFA firearm so I have been vetted by BATF and I have a CCW so state knows I have had education and I carry a card. If possession after a date certain were a felony with serious consequences, such as, for example, a substantial fine and loss of one's legal ability to own a firearm, then I suspect a lot will be turned in. The law abiding people might turn them in but that is not who poses the problem. I think you night even find a number of otherwise law abiding people who would stuff a few under the insulation in the attic or something, assuming the law would be repealed or simply ruled against in court. They would get the illegal ones off of the street after a fashion by attrition. |
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#7
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What the 'ell??
On 1/3/13 12:18 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 08:31:39 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... The law abiding people might turn them in but that is not who poses the problem. I think you night even find a number of otherwise law abiding people who would stuff a few under the insulation in the attic or something, assuming the law would be repealed or simply ruled against in court. They would get the illegal ones off of the street after a fashion by attrition. That assumes nobody ever smuggled any more in. Bear in mind drug gangs make their money on a smuggled product. Another in your never-ending barrage of "we can't do anything, so let's do nothing" posts. |
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#8
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What the 'ell??
In article ,
says... On 1/3/13 12:18 PM, wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 08:31:39 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... The law abiding people might turn them in but that is not who poses the problem. I think you night even find a number of otherwise law abiding people who would stuff a few under the insulation in the attic or something, assuming the law would be repealed or simply ruled against in court. They would get the illegal ones off of the street after a fashion by attrition. That assumes nobody ever smuggled any more in. Bear in mind drug gangs make their money on a smuggled product. Another in your never-ending barrage of "we can't do anything, so let's do nothing" posts. Banning things only increases their value which means a bigger payday for the smugglers. It is not a hard concept to understand unless you only look at it from a political points perspective. |
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#9
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What the 'ell??
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says... On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 12:24:49 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 1/3/13 12:18 PM, wrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 08:31:39 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... The law abiding people might turn them in but that is not who poses the problem. I think you night even find a number of otherwise law abiding people who would stuff a few under the insulation in the attic or something, assuming the law would be repealed or simply ruled against in court. They would get the illegal ones off of the street after a fashion by attrition. That assumes nobody ever smuggled any more in. Bear in mind drug gangs make their money on a smuggled product. Another in your never-ending barrage of "we can't do anything, so let's do nothing" posts. I started a thread suggesting that all of the Hi-caps and assault weapons be put into a modified NFA style registry ... and then leave the owners alone. I got nothing. And this is going to solve WHAT? |
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#10
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What the 'ell??
On 1/3/2013 12:18 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 08:31:39 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... The law abiding people might turn them in but that is not who poses the problem. I think you night even find a number of otherwise law abiding people who would stuff a few under the insulation in the attic or something, assuming the law would be repealed or simply ruled against in court. They would get the illegal ones off of the street after a fashion by attrition. That would take generations. That assumes nobody ever smuggled any more in. Bear in mind drug gangs make their money on a smuggled product. |
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