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ESAD wrote:
On 12/31/12 5:24 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/31/2012 1:23 PM, Califbill wrote:

See what the control advocates in Canada have accomplished. You can have
you petty dictator run roughshod all he wants.

If they tried that here you'd shoot him?



Bilious Bill thinks the army of NRA members, once it emerges from its
beer-induced stupor in the woods deer hunting expedition, will be able to
stage a successful insurrection against the forces of the United States.
More likely, they'll shoot each other.

Actually only takes one shooter to really change history. WW1 started with
one shooter. Biggest change in US history was probably Sirhan Sirhan. He
gave us Nixon, Carter, Reagan.

Sirhan had the ability to read and act into the future, altering what
happens? How?

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On 12/31/12 5:24 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/31/2012 1:23 PM, Califbill wrote:

See what the control advocates in Canada have accomplished. You can have
you petty dictator run roughshod all he wants.

If they tried that here you'd shoot him?



Bilious Bill thinks the army of NRA members, once it emerges from its
beer-induced stupor in the woods deer hunting expedition, will be able
to stage a successful insurrection against the forces of the United
States. More likely, they'll shoot each other.

Why does Harry Reid carry a concealed handgun?

Cite?

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ESAD wrote:
On 12/31/12 3:22 PM, Califbill wrote:
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On Monday, December 31, 2012 8:58:58 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
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Looks like things are getting crazier by the minute down there...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity...-shooting.html



What is YOUR solution?

Disarm the population...with an exception for shotguns and legitimate hunting rifles.

The founders did not include gun rights because of hunting. They wanted
the leaders to have a fear of the populace. The problem we have, and
seeing a few mass murders in Canada also, the problem includes canada, is
that we have both a general breakdown in society and a mental health system
that is mostly nonexistent and overly constrained by law.


Unless you have money or decent health insurance, the mental health
system is more nonexistent than overly constrained.

Even decent health insurance does not cover much mental health costs. The
public mental health budget is non existent and going lower as we wait.
Plus with all the lawyering up people that are nuts can just not get
treated if they so desire.

You are correct.

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On Monday, December 31, 2012 4:22:26 PM UTC-4, Califbill wrote:
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On Monday, December 31, 2012 8:58:58 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

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Looks like things are getting crazier by the minute down there...



http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity...-shooting.html







What is YOUR solution?



Disarm the population...with an exception for shotguns and legitimate hunting rifles.



The founders did not include gun rights because of hunting. They wanted

the leaders to have a fear of the populace. The problem we have, and

seeing a few mass murders in Canada also, the problem includes canada, is

that we have both a general breakdown in society and a mental health system

that is mostly nonexistent and overly constrained by law.

All the more reason to limit ownership of firearms.

Cars kill people, we need to limit cars, especially those evil SUVs.

Do you really, I mean really fall for that ignorant rhetoric?? Every
time I hear a far right wing NRA whack job spew that **** I always
think, I wonder if that individual is really that stupid....

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On 12/31/2012 4:43 PM, BAR wrote:
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On Monday, December 31, 2012 4:22:26 PM UTC-4, Califbill wrote:
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On Monday, December 31, 2012 8:58:58 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

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Looks like things are getting crazier by the minute down there...



http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity...-shooting.html







What is YOUR solution?



Disarm the population...with an exception for shotguns and legitimate hunting rifles.



The founders did not include gun rights because of hunting. They wanted

the leaders to have a fear of the populace. The problem we have, and

seeing a few mass murders in Canada also, the problem includes canada, is

that we have both a general breakdown in society and a mental health system

that is mostly nonexistent and overly constrained by law.

All the more reason to limit ownership of firearms.

Cars kill people, we need to limit cars, especially those evil SUVs.



Hey, what do you expect? Do you really want fat old men to have to sit
way down into a small economical car? Geeze, what's with you?

Oops, there's one we KNOW is that stupid....

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On 12/31/2012 4:43 PM, BAR wrote:
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On Monday, December 31, 2012 4:22:26 PM UTC-4, Califbill wrote:
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On Monday, December 31, 2012 8:58:58 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:

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Looks like things are getting crazier by the minute down there...



http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity...-shooting.html







What is YOUR solution?



Disarm the population...with an exception for shotguns and legitimate hunting rifles.



The founders did not include gun rights because of hunting. They wanted

the leaders to have a fear of the populace. The problem we have, and

seeing a few mass murders in Canada also, the problem includes canada, is

that we have both a general breakdown in society and a mental health system

that is mostly nonexistent and overly constrained by law.

All the more reason to limit ownership of firearms.

Cars kill people, we need to limit cars, especially those evil SUVs.



Lets start with the Rave 4 (AKA: the Saturday night special of SUVs)

Harmless, it's too little to do any damage, and the drivers don't want
to risk breaking a fingernail.

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On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 12:02:02 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:49:48 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:05:31 -0500, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:56:46 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:36:43 -0500, ESAD wrote:

On 12/30/12 6:52 PM, wrote:
Looks like things are getting crazier by the minute down there...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity...-shooting.html

It'll be interesting to see what happens when the first sort of trained
teacher ends up shooting a kid "by sccident."

Hey, this is the United States. Rather than deal with the issues, we arm
teacher.

We arm everybody that is truly expected to protect and defend. Now,
that responsibility falls to those people acting in loco parentis.

Deal with the issues? There is no squishy idealism debate of issues.
This is about crazy armed people looking for a soft underbelly and
finding it among unprotected children. This isn't necessarily about
guns, either. Other countries are having the same problem with crazies
employing knives, machetes, and hatchets to eviscerate and hack off
school children's body parts.

It is already legal for teachers in Utah to carry. I applaud them for
seeking further training in pursuit of protect the children and fellow
employees.

An interesting thing is I have not heard about any shootings in Utah.
I googled Utah Shooting and I got this story, one story about a drug
raid and a ****load of stories and ads for places to shoot.

Maybe those Mormons are too scary to start up any **** with.

So are you ASSuming that the teachers toting guns to school will be any
more mentally stable than the general population of the U.S. where the
shooters have come from?

So, you think the shooters are representative of the general
population? Interesting logic, that.

Who else comes from the general population?

Yes, the shooters came from the general population of the U.S. That's
where everyone else comes from, INCLUDING teachers.

So, you are drawing specifics from the widest possible generality?

You don't think that a teacher can go off like anyone else might be
capable of?

What if this teacher, who until this time was just fine, was allowed to
carry a gun??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODbAHqn_qmo

Or this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NLQkTfKosY

Or this one:

http://sitchnews.com/3774/teachers-g...s-during-math-
class

What if schools sent students that were making the teachers go crazy
to reform schools instead?

Oh, so all mental health problems of teachers comes from the students,
eh?

No. Mental health problems of teachers come from students, sorry-ass
parents that won't parent, and impotent administrators trying to be
politicians.

ALL teacher's mental health problems are because of someone else.....
interesting. Is that the way you think it is with the general public,
too, it's always someone else's fault?

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No. Mental health problems of teachers come from students, sorry-ass
parents that won't parent, and impotent administrators trying to be
politicians.


Gosh, and I thought your area of expertise was limited to assholish
snarky comments. Little did I know you were a ranking expert on our
education system, teachers, parenting, school administration and mental
health issues.

Actually no, unlike you, he's knowledgeable and has a lot of interesting
ideas.

On 1/1/2013 8:35 AM, BAR wrote:
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On 12/31/12 11:37 AM, JustWait wrote:

Quite frankly I think the training should be based on the training a
rookie Police Officer comes in with... This might mean a couple years of
night school, but if you are going to have armed anybody in the schools
I think they need all the tools of conflict resolution, physical
ability, tactical awareness, etc that a fully trained Police Officer has.


You're barely literate and you're coming with "plans" on educating and
putting armed guards in the public schools? Funny stuff.

You are a pedophile, we don't even want to know what your plans would be
for the kids...

You are fiscally irresponsible and you continue to tell us that we don't
spend our money correctly, the government can do it better for us.

On 1/1/2013 8:15 AM, BAR wrote:
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On 12/31/12 5:24 PM, thumper wrote:
On 12/31/2012 1:23 PM, Califbill wrote:

See what the control advocates in Canada have accomplished. You can have
you petty dictator run roughshod all he wants.

If they tried that here you'd shoot him?



Bilious Bill thinks the army of NRA members, once it emerges from its
beer-induced stupor in the woods deer hunting expedition, will be able
to stage a successful insurrection against the forces of the United
States. More likely, they'll shoot each other.

Why does Harry Reid carry a concealed handgun?


Uh, cause he's a democrat... er, uh, hypocrite...