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What the 'ell??
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On 12/31/2012 9:31 AM, wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:05:31 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:56:46 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:36:43 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/30/12 6:52 PM, wrote: Looks like things are getting crazier by the minute down there... http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity...-shooting.html It'll be interesting to see what happens when the first sort of trained teacher ends up shooting a kid "by sccident." Hey, this is the United States. Rather than deal with the issues, we arm teacher. We arm everybody that is truly expected to protect and defend. Now, that responsibility falls to those people acting in loco parentis. Deal with the issues? There is no squishy idealism debate of issues. This is about crazy armed people looking for a soft underbelly and finding it among unprotected children. This isn't necessarily about guns, either. Other countries are having the same problem with crazies employing knives, machetes, and hatchets to eviscerate and hack off school children's body parts. It is already legal for teachers in Utah to carry. I applaud them for seeking further training in pursuit of protect the children and fellow employees. An interesting thing is I have not heard about any shootings in Utah. I googled Utah Shooting and I got this story, one story about a drug raid and a ****load of stories and ads for places to shoot. Maybe those Mormons are too scary to start up any **** with. So are you ASSuming that the teachers toting guns to school will be any more mentally stable than the general population of the U.S. where the shooters have come from? No, you are ASSuming that these teachers wouldn't get more scrutiny and training than "the general population"? Stupid, or dishonest? Neither, they don't get any more "scrutiny" than anyone else applying for a job these days. A background check? That's stupid, just because someone hasn't done anything YET doesn't mean they wont. Anyway, just like pilots who carry, they are trained and watched more carefully. And as the poster below noted, most of these shooters are not "part of the general society". Like alcoholics or heroin addicts almost across the board these folks are withdrawn and basically non-functional in society. Cite? Fired from jobs, living in some fantasy world somewhere... not working at teachers and continuing training in firearms use and safety... Safety has NOTHING to do with it, dumb ass. Just because someone is trained in use of a firearm and safety doesn't mean that they are mentally stable. So, you think the shooters are representative of the general population? Interesting logic, that. He hasn't thought it that far ahead... to do so may mean he changes his opinion and progressives are opposed to that, afraid they won't be welcome at the parties anymore  Where the **** do they come from then? Are you saying that the shooters come from some underground fantasy world? They don't, they come from, get this... the general population of the U.S. |
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#23
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What the 'ell??
On Monday, December 31, 2012 10:59:40 AM UTC-4, Meyer wrote:
On 12/31/2012 8:32 AM, wrote: On Monday, December 31, 2012 8:58:58 AM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... Looks like things are getting crazier by the minute down there... http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity...-shooting.html What is YOUR solution? Disarm the population...with an exception for shotguns and legitimate hunting rifles. You think like Harold. Ain't gonna happen. That so? Seems to me it wasn't so long ago that y'all Southern Boys were saying the same thing about blacks attending 'white' schools. Trust me...times will change and your politicians will grow a backbone and make America safer. |
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#24
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What the 'ell??
On 12/31/2012 10:58 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:49:48 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:05:31 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:56:46 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:36:43 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/30/12 6:52 PM, wrote: Looks like things are getting crazier by the minute down there... http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity...-shooting.html It'll be interesting to see what happens when the first sort of trained teacher ends up shooting a kid "by sccident." Hey, this is the United States. Rather than deal with the issues, we arm teacher. We arm everybody that is truly expected to protect and defend. Now, that responsibility falls to those people acting in loco parentis. Deal with the issues? There is no squishy idealism debate of issues. This is about crazy armed people looking for a soft underbelly and finding it among unprotected children. This isn't necessarily about guns, either. Other countries are having the same problem with crazies employing knives, machetes, and hatchets to eviscerate and hack off school children's body parts. It is already legal for teachers in Utah to carry. I applaud them for seeking further training in pursuit of protect the children and fellow employees. An interesting thing is I have not heard about any shootings in Utah. I googled Utah Shooting and I got this story, one story about a drug raid and a ****load of stories and ads for places to shoot. Maybe those Mormons are too scary to start up any **** with. So are you ASSuming that the teachers toting guns to school will be any more mentally stable than the general population of the U.S. where the shooters have come from? So, you think the shooters are representative of the general population? Interesting logic, that. Who else comes from the general population? Yes, the shooters came from the general population of the U.S. That's where everyone else comes from, INCLUDING teachers. So, you are drawing specifics from the widest possible generality? Like I said, if you look at what we know about most of these guys are non-functional in society long before they go off. More than likely couldn't hold a teaching job, especially if they were trained and regularly monitored as being an armed teacher should be, just like trained airline pilots. The biggest problem is the teachers union will use this to give some sort of "carry pay" or "privelages" to the top seniority teachers with no regard to physical and mental ability. If it ever happens we have to keep the training, choosing, and monitoring away from the Unions who will not do the right thing for the kids... we already know that.... If it stays with the unions, it will turn into another nepotism situation like most extraneous jobs in the teachers union... |
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#25
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What the 'ell??
On 12/31/12 11:12 AM, JustWait wrote:
Like I said, if you look at what we know about most of these guys are non-functional in society long before they go off. No, actually "we don't" know that. The biggest problem is the teachers union will use this to give some sort of "carry pay" or "privelages" to the top seniority teachers with no regard to physical and mental ability. The biggest problem here is that your general ignorance and hatred of those with actual educations trips you up every time. If it ever happens we have to keep the training, choosing, and monitoring away from the Unions who will not do the right thing for the kids... we already know that.... If it stays with the unions, it will turn into another nepotism situation like most extraneous jobs in the teachers union... Right, we should hire guys like you who have never held or kept a responsible job in your entire frippin' lifetime. |
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#26
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What the 'ell??
On 12/31/2012 11:12 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 12/31/2012 10:58 AM, wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:49:48 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:05:31 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:56:46 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:36:43 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/30/12 6:52 PM, wrote: Looks like things are getting crazier by the minute down there... http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity...-shooting.html It'll be interesting to see what happens when the first sort of trained teacher ends up shooting a kid "by sccident." Hey, this is the United States. Rather than deal with the issues, we arm teacher. We arm everybody that is truly expected to protect and defend. Now, that responsibility falls to those people acting in loco parentis. Deal with the issues? There is no squishy idealism debate of issues. This is about crazy armed people looking for a soft underbelly and finding it among unprotected children. This isn't necessarily about guns, either. Other countries are having the same problem with crazies employing knives, machetes, and hatchets to eviscerate and hack off school children's body parts. It is already legal for teachers in Utah to carry. I applaud them for seeking further training in pursuit of protect the children and fellow employees. An interesting thing is I have not heard about any shootings in Utah. I googled Utah Shooting and I got this story, one story about a drug raid and a ****load of stories and ads for places to shoot. Maybe those Mormons are too scary to start up any **** with. So are you ASSuming that the teachers toting guns to school will be any more mentally stable than the general population of the U.S. where the shooters have come from? So, you think the shooters are representative of the general population? Interesting logic, that. Who else comes from the general population? Yes, the shooters came from the general population of the U.S. That's where everyone else comes from, INCLUDING teachers. So, you are drawing specifics from the widest possible generality? Like I said, if you look at what we know about most of these guys are non-functional in society long before they go off. More than likely couldn't hold a teaching job, especially if they were trained and regularly monitored as being an armed teacher should be, just like trained airline pilots. The biggest problem is the teachers union will use this to give some sort of "carry pay" or "privelages" to the top seniority teachers with no regard to physical and mental ability. If it ever happens we have to keep the training, choosing, and monitoring away from the Unions who will not do the right thing for the kids... we already know that.... If it stays with the unions, it will turn into another nepotism situation like most extraneous jobs in the teachers union... Quite frankly I think the training should be based on the training a rookie Police Officer comes in with... This might mean a couple years of night school, but if you are going to have armed anybody in the schools I think they need all the tools of conflict resolution, physical ability, tactical awareness, etc that a fully trained Police Officer has. |
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#27
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What the 'ell??
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says... On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:49:48 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:05:31 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:56:46 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:36:43 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/30/12 6:52 PM, wrote: Looks like things are getting crazier by the minute down there... http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity...-shooting.html It'll be interesting to see what happens when the first sort of trained teacher ends up shooting a kid "by sccident." Hey, this is the United States. Rather than deal with the issues, we arm teacher. We arm everybody that is truly expected to protect and defend. Now, that responsibility falls to those people acting in loco parentis. Deal with the issues? There is no squishy idealism debate of issues. This is about crazy armed people looking for a soft underbelly and finding it among unprotected children. This isn't necessarily about guns, either. Other countries are having the same problem with crazies employing knives, machetes, and hatchets to eviscerate and hack off school children's body parts. It is already legal for teachers in Utah to carry. I applaud them for seeking further training in pursuit of protect the children and fellow employees. An interesting thing is I have not heard about any shootings in Utah. I googled Utah Shooting and I got this story, one story about a drug raid and a ****load of stories and ads for places to shoot. Maybe those Mormons are too scary to start up any **** with. So are you ASSuming that the teachers toting guns to school will be any more mentally stable than the general population of the U.S. where the shooters have come from? So, you think the shooters are representative of the general population? Interesting logic, that. Who else comes from the general population? Yes, the shooters came from the general population of the U.S. That's where everyone else comes from, INCLUDING teachers. So, you are drawing specifics from the widest possible generality? It is what it is. With today's mental health policies, especially. |
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#28
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What the 'ell??
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On 12/31/2012 10:58 AM, wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:49:48 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:05:31 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:56:46 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:36:43 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/30/12 6:52 PM, wrote: Looks like things are getting crazier by the minute down there... http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity...-shooting.html It'll be interesting to see what happens when the first sort of trained teacher ends up shooting a kid "by sccident." Hey, this is the United States. Rather than deal with the issues, we arm teacher. We arm everybody that is truly expected to protect and defend. Now, that responsibility falls to those people acting in loco parentis. Deal with the issues? There is no squishy idealism debate of issues. This is about crazy armed people looking for a soft underbelly and finding it among unprotected children. This isn't necessarily about guns, either. Other countries are having the same problem with crazies employing knives, machetes, and hatchets to eviscerate and hack off school children's body parts. It is already legal for teachers in Utah to carry. I applaud them for seeking further training in pursuit of protect the children and fellow employees. An interesting thing is I have not heard about any shootings in Utah. I googled Utah Shooting and I got this story, one story about a drug raid and a ****load of stories and ads for places to shoot. Maybe those Mormons are too scary to start up any **** with. So are you ASSuming that the teachers toting guns to school will be any more mentally stable than the general population of the U.S. where the shooters have come from? So, you think the shooters are representative of the general population? Interesting logic, that. Who else comes from the general population? Yes, the shooters came from the general population of the U.S. That's where everyone else comes from, INCLUDING teachers. So, you are drawing specifics from the widest possible generality? Like I said, if you look at what we know about most of these guys are non-functional in society long before they go off. More than likely couldn't hold a teaching job, especially if they were trained and regularly monitored as being an armed teacher should be, just like trained airline pilots. Tell me, just what in the world is supposed to ensure that these teachers, or pilots for that matter, don't wig out? Do you remember the pilot that went nuts not long ago?? Here, what if HE had a gun: http://tinyurl.com/cbrgjwl The biggest problem is the teachers union will use this to give some sort of "carry pay" or "privelages" to the top seniority teachers with no regard to physical and mental ability. If it ever happens we have to keep the training, choosing, and monitoring away from the Unions who will not do the right thing for the kids... we already know that.... If it stays with the unions, it will turn into another nepotism situation like most extraneous jobs in the teachers union... You stupid little twit, where DOES this insane **** get into your brain? |
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#29
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What the 'ell??
In article , says...
On 12/31/2012 11:12 AM, JustWait wrote: On 12/31/2012 10:58 AM, wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:49:48 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:05:31 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:56:46 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:36:43 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/30/12 6:52 PM, wrote: Looks like things are getting crazier by the minute down there... http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity...-shooting.html It'll be interesting to see what happens when the first sort of trained teacher ends up shooting a kid "by sccident." Hey, this is the United States. Rather than deal with the issues, we arm teacher. We arm everybody that is truly expected to protect and defend. Now, that responsibility falls to those people acting in loco parentis. Deal with the issues? There is no squishy idealism debate of issues. This is about crazy armed people looking for a soft underbelly and finding it among unprotected children. This isn't necessarily about guns, either. Other countries are having the same problem with crazies employing knives, machetes, and hatchets to eviscerate and hack off school children's body parts. It is already legal for teachers in Utah to carry. I applaud them for seeking further training in pursuit of protect the children and fellow employees. An interesting thing is I have not heard about any shootings in Utah. I googled Utah Shooting and I got this story, one story about a drug raid and a ****load of stories and ads for places to shoot. Maybe those Mormons are too scary to start up any **** with. So are you ASSuming that the teachers toting guns to school will be any more mentally stable than the general population of the U.S. where the shooters have come from? So, you think the shooters are representative of the general population? Interesting logic, that. Who else comes from the general population? Yes, the shooters came from the general population of the U.S. That's where everyone else comes from, INCLUDING teachers. So, you are drawing specifics from the widest possible generality? Like I said, if you look at what we know about most of these guys are non-functional in society long before they go off. More than likely couldn't hold a teaching job, especially if they were trained and regularly monitored as being an armed teacher should be, just like trained airline pilots. The biggest problem is the teachers union will use this to give some sort of "carry pay" or "privelages" to the top seniority teachers with no regard to physical and mental ability. If it ever happens we have to keep the training, choosing, and monitoring away from the Unions who will not do the right thing for the kids... we already know that.... If it stays with the unions, it will turn into another nepotism situation like most extraneous jobs in the teachers union... Quite frankly I think the training should be based on the training a rookie Police Officer comes in with... This might mean a couple years of night school, but if you are going to have armed anybody in the schools I think they need all the tools of conflict resolution, physical ability, tactical awareness, etc that a fully trained Police Officer has. And in your insane eyes, this would make that person mentally stable???? |
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#30
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says... On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 09:49:48 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:05:31 -0500, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:56:46 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:36:43 -0500, ESAD wrote: On 12/30/12 6:52 PM, wrote: Looks like things are getting crazier by the minute down there... http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity...-shooting.html It'll be interesting to see what happens when the first sort of trained teacher ends up shooting a kid "by sccident." Hey, this is the United States. Rather than deal with the issues, we arm teacher. We arm everybody that is truly expected to protect and defend. Now, that responsibility falls to those people acting in loco parentis. Deal with the issues? There is no squishy idealism debate of issues. This is about crazy armed people looking for a soft underbelly and finding it among unprotected children. This isn't necessarily about guns, either. Other countries are having the same problem with crazies employing knives, machetes, and hatchets to eviscerate and hack off school children's body parts. It is already legal for teachers in Utah to carry. I applaud them for seeking further training in pursuit of protect the children and fellow employees. An interesting thing is I have not heard about any shootings in Utah. I googled Utah Shooting and I got this story, one story about a drug raid and a ****load of stories and ads for places to shoot. Maybe those Mormons are too scary to start up any **** with. So are you ASSuming that the teachers toting guns to school will be any more mentally stable than the general population of the U.S. where the shooters have come from? So, you think the shooters are representative of the general population? Interesting logic, that. Who else comes from the general population? Yes, the shooters came from the general population of the U.S. That's where everyone else comes from, INCLUDING teachers. So, you are drawing specifics from the widest possible generality? You don't think that a teacher can go off like anyone else might be capable of? What if this teacher, who until this time was just fine, was allowed to carry a gun?? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODbAHqn_qmo Or this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NLQkTfKosY Or this one: http://sitchnews.com/3774/teachers-g...s-during-math- class |
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