On 6/17/12 10:10 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:11:03 -0400, X ` Man

Yeah, I think following a course of study with professors, academic
libraries, peers, writing of intellectual papers helps one think
cogently, as it were.

I will admit, though, that you seem to have your disdain for obtaining
knowledge in a rigorous disciplined fashioned down pat. That's fairly
typical for those who never went to college or completed a degree.





The issue is that actually getting knowledge is slow to come by in
college. I got 2 semesters of electronic engineering in 4 weeks in a
Navy school. That was just part of 18 weeks of training that came at
us fast. You didn't have to learn it, they have ships they want to
have painted.

Yeah, I'm *sure* you got the equivalent of two semesters of engineering
training in four weeks. Right. I believe that.

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:14:07 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

The issue is that actually getting knowledge is slow to come by in
college. I got 2 semesters of electronic engineering in 4 weeks in a
Navy school. That was just part of 18 weeks of training that came at
us fast. You didn't have to learn it, they have ships they want to
have painted.

Yeah, I'm *sure* you got the equivalent of two semesters of engineering
training in four weeks. Right. I believe that.

===

The navy electronics courses are absolutley first rate and easily
comparable to the Circuits 101 and Circuits 102 courses that EEs take
in terms of practical, hands-on knowledge. In addition to circuit
theory, EEs also need advanced mathematics, physics and design which
is necessary for theoretical analysis and modeling. The navy does not
offer that because it is not needed to do practical work in the field.

On 6/18/12 12:07 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:14:07 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

The issue is that actually getting knowledge is slow to come by in
college. I got 2 semesters of electronic engineering in 4 weeks in a
Navy school. That was just part of 18 weeks of training that came at
us fast. You didn't have to learn it, they have ships they want to
have painted.

Yeah, I'm *sure* you got the equivalent of two semesters of engineering
training in four weeks. Right. I believe that.

===

The navy electronics courses are absolutley first rate and easily
comparable to the Circuits 101 and Circuits 102 courses that EEs take
in terms of practical, hands-on knowledge. In addition to circuit
theory, EEs also need advanced mathematics, physics and design which
is necessary for theoretical analysis and modeling. The navy does not
offer that because it is not needed to do practical work in the field.



Nowhere did I state or claim the navy courses weren't first rate. I
stated that four weeks of training was not the equivalent of two
semesters in engineering school. Try reading for comprehension.

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 12:28:48 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Try reading for comprehension.

===

Likewise.

Apparently the Socratic method did not teach you to recognize when
someone is partially agreeing with you.

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:31:37 -0400, wrote:

The world is full of learning opportunities if you are willing to
read, watch and ask questions.

===

Absolutely true. There's nothing like a curious mind and the
motivation to follow up. I'm always amazed at the amount of
collective knowledge that exists on the internet these days. I taught
myself HTML and Javascript back in the 90s just from internet based
education of various sorts - partly as a hobby, and partly because I
knew it would eventually come in handy with my day job.

On 6/18/12 5:55 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:31:37 -0400, wrote:

The world is full of learning opportunities if you are willing to
read, watch and ask questions.

===

Absolutely true. There's nothing like a curious mind and the
motivation to follow up. I'm always amazed at the amount of
collective knowledge that exists on the internet these days. I taught
myself HTML and Javascript back in the 90s just from internet based
education of various sorts - partly as a hobby, and partly because I
knew it would eventually come in handy with my day job.


I started learning the programming necessary to develop a decent website
about a year ago, and I thought the learning curve was really steep at
the beginning. I do ok now, though I'm certainly no "whiz," and I
recently produced a nice new webpage for one of my NGO clients.
It's a geopolitical site, and we're getting about 200 hits a day, which
isn't bad, considering we're not doing much to promote it.

On 6/18/2012 7:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:00:29 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 6/18/12 5:55 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:31:37 -0400, wrote:

The world is full of learning opportunities if you are willing to
read, watch and ask questions.

===

Absolutely true. There's nothing like a curious mind and the
motivation to follow up. I'm always amazed at the amount of
collective knowledge that exists on the internet these days. I taught
myself HTML and Javascript back in the 90s just from internet based
education of various sorts - partly as a hobby, and partly because I
knew it would eventually come in handy with my day job.


I started learning the programming necessary to develop a decent website
about a year ago, and I thought the learning curve was really steep at
the beginning. I do ok now, though I'm certainly no "whiz," and I
recently produced a nice new webpage for one of my NGO clients.
It's a geopolitical site, and we're getting about 200 hits a day, which
isn't bad, considering we're not doing much to promote it.

If I was actually building a commercial web site I would use a program
like Front Page or maybe something more powerful.
I just use my web page as an FTP site so I don't need that much
software. You can make something functional with word.

I am surprised you would use FrontPage, it's such a dog and very
proprietary. When we build sites I use Dreamweaver and then the wife
goes in and manually cleans up the HTML...

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 18:00:29 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 6/18/12 5:55 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 15:31:37 -0400, wrote:

The world is full of learning opportunities if you are willing to
read, watch and ask questions.

===

Absolutely true. There's nothing like a curious mind and the
motivation to follow up. I'm always amazed at the amount of
collective knowledge that exists on the internet these days. I taught
myself HTML and Javascript back in the 90s just from internet based
education of various sorts - partly as a hobby, and partly because I
knew it would eventually come in handy with my day job.


I started learning the programming necessary to develop a decent website
about a year ago, and I thought the learning curve was really steep at
the beginning. I do ok now, though I'm certainly no "whiz," and I
recently produced a nice new webpage for one of my NGO clients.
It's a geopolitical site, and we're getting about 200 hits a day, which
isn't bad, considering we're not doing much to promote it.

If I was actually building a commercial web site I would use a program
like Front Page or maybe something more powerful.
I just use my web page as an FTP site so I don't need that much
software. You can make something functional with word.

Most normal people would use Front Page or similar!

On 6/18/2012 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:14:07 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 6/17/12 10:10 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:11:03 -0400, X ` Man

Yeah, I think following a course of study with professors, academic
libraries, peers, writing of intellectual papers helps one think
cogently, as it were.

I will admit, though, that you seem to have your disdain for obtaining
knowledge in a rigorous disciplined fashioned down pat. That's fairly
typical for those who never went to college or completed a degree.





The issue is that actually getting knowledge is slow to come by in
college. I got 2 semesters of electronic engineering in 4 weeks in a
Navy school. That was just part of 18 weeks of training that came at
us fast. You didn't have to learn it, they have ships they want to
have painted.

Yeah, I'm *sure* you got the equivalent of two semesters of engineering
training in four weeks. Right. I believe that.



Why is it hard to believe. It was an 8 hour day, 5 days a week with no
bull****.



There is no way he could understand what disciplined learning is all about.

On 6/18/2012 9:55 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 6/18/2012 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:14:07 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 6/17/12 10:10 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:11:03 -0400, X ` Man

Yeah, I think following a course of study with professors, academic
libraries, peers, writing of intellectual papers helps one think
cogently, as it were.

I will admit, though, that you seem to have your disdain for obtaining
knowledge in a rigorous disciplined fashioned down pat. That's fairly
typical for those who never went to college or completed a degree.





The issue is that actually getting knowledge is slow to come by in
college. I got 2 semesters of electronic engineering in 4 weeks in a
Navy school. That was just part of 18 weeks of training that came at
us fast. You didn't have to learn it, they have ships they want to
have painted.

Yeah, I'm *sure* you got the equivalent of two semesters of engineering
training in four weeks. Right. I believe that.



Why is it hard to believe. It was an 8 hour day, 5 days a week with no
bull****.



There is no way he could understand what disciplined learning is all about.

You guys talking about harry? LOL, he went to bumb**** u to stay out of
the military... The guy hasn't done anything productive since...