On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 22:10:13 -0400, wrote:

I know people who "Cs and Ds" through 5 or 6 years of college and they
still don't know how to think.

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That's common, even with those who got As and Bs. Just as common are
those who don't know how to use what they supposedly learned, and
don't recognize opportunity.

On 6/17/12 10:10 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:11:03 -0400, X ` Man

Yeah, I think following a course of study with professors, academic
libraries, peers, writing of intellectual papers helps one think
cogently, as it were.

I will admit, though, that you seem to have your disdain for obtaining
knowledge in a rigorous disciplined fashioned down pat. That's fairly
typical for those who never went to college or completed a degree.





The issue is that actually getting knowledge is slow to come by in
college. I got 2 semesters of electronic engineering in 4 weeks in a
Navy school. That was just part of 18 weeks of training that came at
us fast. You didn't have to learn it, they have ships they want to
have painted.

Yeah, I'm *sure* you got the equivalent of two semesters of engineering
training in four weeks. Right. I believe that.

On Jun 18, 7:03*am, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:12:36 -0400, Wayne.B









wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:06:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Ahh, but it sort of depends on the job being sought, eh? An "art major"
might be just the degree sought by employers at ad agencies, museums,
magazines, music companies, et cetera.

Here's a good list. Note that of the top paid careers, the words
Engineering or Science is in every one of the job titles. Notice the
abundance of the word "arts" in the lowest paid group!

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2073703_20....

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Lists like that are interesting but somewhat meaningless. * The really
big bucks are being made by doctors, lawyers, bankers, investment
managers, business owners/executives, real estate developers, etc.

The people who make obscene amounts of money dropped out of college.

Seems that way doesn't it Greg. Or, they bumbled their way through and
graduated with the skin of their teeth.

On 6/18/12 8:03 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:12:36 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:06:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Ahh, but it sort of depends on the job being sought, eh? An "art major"
might be just the degree sought by employers at ad agencies, museums,
magazines, music companies, et cetera.

Here's a good list. Note that of the top paid careers, the words
Engineering or Science is in every one of the job titles. Notice the
abundance of the word "arts" in the lowest paid group!

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2073703_2073653_2073690,00.html

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Lists like that are interesting but somewhat meaningless. The really
big bucks are being made by doctors, lawyers, bankers, investment
managers, business owners/executives, real estate developers, etc.

The people who make obscene amounts of money dropped out of college.



Those who shaped Western Civilization and thought were not, for the most
part, wealthy. Many of them, in fact, were paupers, but they gave us a
lot more than stories of their wealth. It's sad but telling that so many
of you righties only value the ability to earn large sums of money. Any
decent classroom teacher/nurse/social worker/fireman is more valuable to
society than *any* of you.

On 6/18/2012 8:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 6/18/12 8:03 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:12:36 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:06:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Ahh, but it sort of depends on the job being sought, eh? An "art
major"
might be just the degree sought by employers at ad agencies, museums,
magazines, music companies, et cetera.

Here's a good list. Note that of the top paid careers, the words
Engineering or Science is in every one of the job titles. Notice the
abundance of the word "arts" in the lowest paid group!

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2073703_2073653_2073690,00.html


===

Lists like that are interesting but somewhat meaningless. The really
big bucks are being made by doctors, lawyers, bankers, investment
managers, business owners/executives, real estate developers, etc.

The people who make obscene amounts of money dropped out of college.



Those who shaped Western Civilization and thought were not, for the most
part, wealthy. Many of them, in fact, were paupers, but they gave us a
lot more than stories of their wealth. It's sad but telling that so many
of you righties only value the ability to earn large sums of money. Any
decent classroom teacher/nurse/social worker/fireman is more valuable to
society than *any* of you.


I notice you left out jingle writers. Good on you. ;-)

You do, however subscribe to the notion that "He who dies with the most
toys wins". Want to brag on that boat of yours? Or have you learned your
lesson? :-)

On 6/18/2012 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:14:07 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 6/17/12 10:10 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:11:03 -0400, X ` Man

Yeah, I think following a course of study with professors, academic
libraries, peers, writing of intellectual papers helps one think
cogently, as it were.

I will admit, though, that you seem to have your disdain for obtaining
knowledge in a rigorous disciplined fashioned down pat. That's fairly
typical for those who never went to college or completed a degree.





The issue is that actually getting knowledge is slow to come by in
college. I got 2 semesters of electronic engineering in 4 weeks in a
Navy school. That was just part of 18 weeks of training that came at
us fast. You didn't have to learn it, they have ships they want to
have painted.

Yeah, I'm *sure* you got the equivalent of two semesters of engineering
training in four weeks. Right. I believe that.



Why is it hard to believe. It was an 8 hour day, 5 days a week with no
bull****.



There is no way he could understand what disciplined learning is all about.

On 6/18/2012 9:55 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 6/18/2012 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:14:07 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 6/17/12 10:10 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:11:03 -0400, X ` Man

Yeah, I think following a course of study with professors, academic
libraries, peers, writing of intellectual papers helps one think
cogently, as it were.

I will admit, though, that you seem to have your disdain for obtaining
knowledge in a rigorous disciplined fashioned down pat. That's fairly
typical for those who never went to college or completed a degree.





The issue is that actually getting knowledge is slow to come by in
college. I got 2 semesters of electronic engineering in 4 weeks in a
Navy school. That was just part of 18 weeks of training that came at
us fast. You didn't have to learn it, they have ships they want to
have painted.

Yeah, I'm *sure* you got the equivalent of two semesters of engineering
training in four weeks. Right. I believe that.



Why is it hard to believe. It was an 8 hour day, 5 days a week with no
bull****.



There is no way he could understand what disciplined learning is all about.

You guys talking about harry? LOL, he went to bumb**** u to stay out of
the military... The guy hasn't done anything productive since...

On 6/18/2012 8:50 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 6/18/2012 8:08 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 6/18/12 8:03 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:12:36 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:06:49 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Ahh, but it sort of depends on the job being sought, eh? An "art
major"
might be just the degree sought by employers at ad agencies, museums,
magazines, music companies, et cetera.

Here's a good list. Note that of the top paid careers, the words
Engineering or Science is in every one of the job titles. Notice the
abundance of the word "arts" in the lowest paid group!

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2073703_2073653_2073690,00.html



===

Lists like that are interesting but somewhat meaningless. The really
big bucks are being made by doctors, lawyers, bankers, investment
managers, business owners/executives, real estate developers, etc.

The people who make obscene amounts of money dropped out of college.



Those who shaped Western Civilization and thought were not, for the most
part, wealthy. Many of them, in fact, were paupers, but they gave us a
lot more than stories of their wealth. It's sad but telling that so many
of you righties only value the ability to earn large sums of money. Any
decent classroom teacher/nurse/social worker/fireman is more valuable to
society than *any* of you.


I notice you left out jingle writers. Good on you. ;-)

You do, however subscribe to the notion that "He who dies with the most
toys wins". Want to brag on that boat of yours? Or have you learned your
lesson? :-)

It's funny how they always talk about teachers, police, firefighters and
the children "WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN"!!! When in reality, most towns
around here took all the porkulus money and spent it on unnecessary
projects that outerwise wouldn't have been funded... and didn't need to be.

On 6/18/12 10:00 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 08:08:33 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

The people who make obscene amounts of money dropped out of college.



Those who shaped Western Civilization and thought were not, for the most
part, wealthy. Many of them, in fact, were paupers, but they gave us a
lot more than stories of their wealth

They did it without college too.

The idea that college is necessary "to learn how to think" is
ridiculous.
I imagine I have spent more time in class than most of the people
here, it just wasn't at a university.

I learned real skills, not some bull**** philosophy from a professor
that went to school at 5 and never left. These people have never
actually worked in the real world. Why would we expect any real world
knowledge from them.



You might not be aware of this, but you are presenting almost verbatim
the sort of response those who didn't go to college offer. It doesn't wash.

On 6/18/12 10:09 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 6/18/2012 9:55 AM, Oscar wrote:
On 6/18/2012 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:14:07 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 6/17/12 10:10 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 07:11:03 -0400, X ` Man

Yeah, I think following a course of study with professors, academic
libraries, peers, writing of intellectual papers helps one think
cogently, as it were.

I will admit, though, that you seem to have your disdain for
obtaining
knowledge in a rigorous disciplined fashioned down pat. That's fairly
typical for those who never went to college or completed a degree.





The issue is that actually getting knowledge is slow to come by in
college. I got 2 semesters of electronic engineering in 4 weeks in a
Navy school. That was just part of 18 weeks of training that came at
us fast. You didn't have to learn it, they have ships they want to
have painted.

Yeah, I'm *sure* you got the equivalent of two semesters of engineering
training in four weeks. Right. I believe that.



Why is it hard to believe. It was an 8 hour day, 5 days a week with no
bull****.



There is no way he could understand what disciplined learning is all
about.

You guys talking about harry? LOL, he went to bumb**** u to stay out of
the military... The guy hasn't done anything productive since...

I know you have serious problems dealing with reality, but...I wasn't
drafted, and neither were most males in my age group. You're really a
stupid little ****.