On 3/28/2012 4:33 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:48:00 -0400, wrote:

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On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:53:16 -0400, wrote:

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On 3/28/2012 12:33 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 3/28/2012 9:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 3/28/2012 9:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 3/27/2012 3:47 PM, BAR wrote:
In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynlw24, says...

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
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On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote:

There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin.
It appears
the opposite is true.
He says he was jumped from behind.

No evidence yet.


Zimmerman is the defendant
The state has to prove it is not true.
We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached
Zimmerman

Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast
enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away.

What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and
attack him?
How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug
wanting to
rob him, or kill him?

When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time,
all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he
lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game
over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument.

Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it
that I just happened to have run across. Interesting.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534

I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also
paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch.

The interesting part of the transcript is:

Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's
running.

Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah

Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that.

Zimmerman: Ok

Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were
off.
Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because
he was
losing the fight.


So, what you are saying is that if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and
asked
the Martin "what are you doing here", and Martin had beat Zimmerman to
death, that would have been ok because Zimmerman got out and asked
him a
question?

That's just stupid.

You both indicated Martin had the right to defend himself from the
follower, I am just asking what you would have done if Zimmerman didn't
have a gun and Martin beat him to death.... Neither one of you will
answer that question...

Because it's hypothetical and didn't happen, therefore has NOTHING to do
with this case. BUT, with the no retreat clause, if Martin felt in fear
of his life, he could do what he had to do. You have a 200# man with a
gun, and a 17 year old kid with a bag of Skittles. The kid gets shot and
killed by the man and somehow you are all right with that??? Seems as
though BAR is about the only person on the right in here that isn't so
extreme that he sees the problem for what it is.

How much did Martin weigh?


It doesn't matter here Oscar. Only hypotheticals that fit the racists
agenda are valid here...

YOU are the racist. YOU were the one to bring up race. Now, what is
"hypothetical" about Martin's weight? He was there, and he had that
weight. Unlike YOUR hypothetical which just didn't have any bearing on
anything to do with this case so it WAS hypothetical. So, show me ONE
STATEMENT I've made about this matter that was a hypothesis.

Wow. That guy 'Kevin' that used to be here would capitalize a lot of words also.

A person tends to capitalize words for affect, ASSHOLE.

'Affect' or 'effect'?

Kevin used to do that also - screw up words a lot.

It's more in the argument style... Several of these sock puppets (who
show up as soon as another leaves, argue in a very distinctive manner.
It's as clear as if you could hear their voices, they are the same
person... Just like my style of speech, I couldn't hide it if I wanted
to. I just hoped the guy had more guts and confidence in his own
convictions to keep playing this silly denial game...