In article 23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynlw24, says...

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
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says...

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, BAR wrote:

There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears
the opposite is true.
He says he was jumped from behind.

No evidence yet.


Zimmerman is the defendant
The state has to prove it is not true.
We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached
Zimmerman

Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast
enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away.

What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him?
How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to
rob him, or kill him?

When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument.


So you think he HAS to answer some fat ass vigilante?

Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534

In article 2380703.423.1332876250212.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynim7, says...

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:06:05 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:24:41 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 3/27/12 11:21 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:38:09 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Zimmerman has an interesting police record. He's exactly the sort of
person who should not have been allowed to purchase a firearm, much less
a carry permit.

His "record" is arguing with a cop in a bar who was arresting his
friend and that charge was dropped.

I guess Skip Gates is a criminal too in your eyes.



There's a bit more than that, but arguing with a cop in a bar over an
arrest is "interesting." It tells me Zimmerman is an out of control
hothead.

There was also a domestic dispute wherein his ex filed for a restraint
order. Evidently, Zimmerman liked to intimidate people.

Or, he was a nicew guy that was trying to help a buddy out of a jam in a bar, and he had a bitch for an ex.

I can not believe the people on the right spinning this into a guy who
is completely out of line shoots and kills an innocent kid and he's your
hero.

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On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:45:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:34:11 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:27:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Citizens rights include not following the orders of Law Enforcement? He
was told to stay in his car.

When? You are just making **** up now.,
.
That is the same thing that Kevin guy used to do!

Maybe there's no difference between, "We don?t need you to do that," and, "Stay in your car!"

Here, idiot:

"It's irrelevant to what happened on Feb. 26, does not change material
facts of the situation, specifically that had George Zimmerman not left
his vehicle and heeded the police dispatcher's guidance, we wouldn't be
here today," Julison said


How do you know?

At least you're not putting words in the cop's mouth any more.

There used to be a guy here named Kevin who did the same stupid ****. He was a name-caller also.

Hey, Asshole, YOU are calling ME a name. Now, do you think Zimmerman did
the right thing in shooting an innocent kid? That's sick. You do realize
the kid can also use the no retreat clause too, eh? Some weirdo fat ass
vigilante comes up to him harassing him and he's supposed to just take
it? You righties amaze me.

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On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:22:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:27:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Citizens rights include not following the orders of Law Enforcement? He
was told to stay in his car.

When? You are just making **** up now.,

"It's irrelevant to what happened on Feb. 26, does not change material
facts of the situation, specifically that had George Zimmerman not left
his vehicle and heeded the police dispatcher's guidance, we wouldn't be
here today," Julison said

I'll expect an apology.

Go ahead and apologize for making up a story about what the police said,. Quoting something you read
somewhere does not make your statement true.

**** you, Asshole.

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On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:06:35 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 3/27/12 12:25 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/27/2012 11:34 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:27:17 -0400, wrote:

Citizens rights include not following the orders of Law Enforcement? He
was told to stay in his car.

When? You are just making **** up now.,

That is Plum's MO...


Zimmerman was clearly told by the police dispatcher to stay in his car.
The transcripts were readily available, and that is one of the
statements that was perfectly clear.

No he wasn't. Go read the transcripts for yourself. You're as bad as that guy that sounds like Kevin
= making up ****.

If a LEO tells you you shouldn't get out of your car and confront the
kid, what would you do?

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On 3/27/12 2:53 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article
,
says...

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote:

There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears
the opposite is true.
He says he was jumped from behind.

No evidence yet.


Zimmerman is the defendant
The state has to prove it is not true.
We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached
Zimmerman

Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast
enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away.

What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him?
How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to
rob him, or kill him?

When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me."

The kid was under no obligation to say anything. Zimmerman was and is a
nobody, beyond being a killer.

Exactly.

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In article 23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynlw24, says...

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
In article
,
says...

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, BAR wrote:

There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears
the opposite is true.
He says he was jumped from behind.

No evidence yet.


Zimmerman is the defendant
The state has to prove it is not true.
We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached
Zimmerman

Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast
enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away.

What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him?
How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to
rob him, or kill him?

When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument.

Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534

I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also
paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch.

The interesting part of the transcript is:

Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's
running.

Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah

Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that.

Zimmerman: Ok

Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off.
Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was
losing the fight.

Yep, the no retreat clause is the same for Martin as it is for
Zimmerman.

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:15:02 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:06:35 -0400, X ` Man wrote:

On 3/27/12 12:25 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/27/2012 11:34 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:27:17 -0400, wrote:

Citizens rights include not following the orders of Law Enforcement? He
was told to stay in his car.

When? You are just making **** up now.,

That is Plum's MO...


Zimmerman was clearly told by the police dispatcher to stay in his car.
The transcripts were readily available, and that is one of the
statements that was perfectly clear.

No he wasn't. Go read the transcripts for yourself. You're as bad as that guy that sounds like Kevin
= making up ****.

If a LEO tells you you shouldn't get out of your car and confront the
kid, what would you do?

No LEO said anything about getting out of a car. You're making up bull**** scenarios to fit your
false statements.

Call me more names. That shows a level of immaturity equal to Harry's.

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:11:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article 2380703.423.1332876250212.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynim7, says...

On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:06:05 PM UTC-4, jps wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:24:41 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 3/27/12 11:21 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:38:09 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Zimmerman has an interesting police record. He's exactly the sort of
person who should not have been allowed to purchase a firearm, much less
a carry permit.

His "record" is arguing with a cop in a bar who was arresting his
friend and that charge was dropped.

I guess Skip Gates is a criminal too in your eyes.



There's a bit more than that, but arguing with a cop in a bar over an
arrest is "interesting." It tells me Zimmerman is an out of control
hothead.

There was also a domestic dispute wherein his ex filed for a restraint
order. Evidently, Zimmerman liked to intimidate people.

Or, he was a nicew guy that was trying to help a buddy out of a jam in a bar, and he had a bitch for an ex.

I can not believe the people on the right spinning this into a guy who
is completely out of line shoots and kills an innocent kid and he's your
hero.

More Kevinesque bull****.

Cite? Show one statement implying Zimmerman is a hero.

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:13:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:45:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:34:11 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:27:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

Citizens rights include not following the orders of Law Enforcement? He
was told to stay in his car.

When? You are just making **** up now.,
.
That is the same thing that Kevin guy used to do!

Maybe there's no difference between, "We don?t need you to do that," and, "Stay in your car!"

Here, idiot:

"It's irrelevant to what happened on Feb. 26, does not change material
facts of the situation, specifically that had George Zimmerman not left
his vehicle and heeded the police dispatcher's guidance, we wouldn't be
here today," Julison said


How do you know?

At least you're not putting words in the cop's mouth any more.

There used to be a guy here named Kevin who did the same stupid ****. He was a name-caller also.

Hey, Asshole, YOU are calling ME a name. Now, do you think Zimmerman did
the right thing in shooting an innocent kid? That's sick. You do realize
the kid can also use the no retreat clause too, eh? Some weirdo fat ass
vigilante comes up to him harassing him and he's supposed to just take
it? You righties amaze me.

I called you a name? Show me. I have no idea if Zimmerman is guilty or innocent. I have no idea if
the kid was guilty or innocent. All I have is the word of a bunch of folks like yourself.

And, you make up **** as you go along, like saying I called you a name.

You sure sound a lot like that Kevin guy that used to be here. He pulled a lot of the same ****.