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X ` Man[_3_]

On 3/26/12 9:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:31:51 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

Watching someone from your truck is not pursuit, it is watching.
If it turns out Martin approached the truck, he was the pursuer.

When Zimmerman got out of his truck he initiated pursuit. Zimmerman
could have driven away and let the police handle the situation.
Zimmerman escalated the situation which resulted in Martin's death.

Zimmerman says he never approached or pursued Martin, he got out of
the truck to read a road sign.

You can't fault a teenager for looking into a car, it is what they do.

When you have had dozens of car burglaries, that is suspicious.

The transcript from the gir;lfriend seems to support that. The initial
contact was Martin confronting Zimmerman in that call.

You mean Martin confronted a man who got of his car and pursued Martin.
Zimmerman is the adult in this whole situation and he should have shown
better judgment.

There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears
the opposite is true.
He says he was jumped from behind.

Of course he says that. And you believe him.

Canuck57[_9_]

On 25/03/2012 9:54 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:12:08 -0700, wrote:

I think there are a lot of people who are lynching this guy without
hearing a word of testimony from the defendant.
If that is justice in the other 49 states, stay there.

The fact remains that a spokesman for the Sanford Police has said none
of the "revelations" we have heard are inconsistent with Zimmerman's
story.

I am going to wait for the FBI report. That is why they are there, but
if what Plouffe said on MTP this morning is an indication, Martin may
have been the attacker and Zimmerman may have been trying to retreat.
Will you feel the same way if it is determined that Zimmerman was on
his back on the ground with Martin pummeling him when the shot was
fired. That is also consistent with what the witnesses have said.

I call it the racism test.

Would it still be a hate crime if the skin colors reversed?

If not then it isn't a hate crime.

But agree, a lot of black leaders pandering to the racism here. Just
change the titles of the news media replacing black with white or black
and Hispanic and see if you still think racism against others by blacks
isn't a problem.

Racism is a human disease, an no one race has it cornered.
--
Liberal-socialism is a great idea so long as the credit is good and
other people pay for it. When the credit runs out and those that pay
for it leave, they can all share having nothing.

JustWait[_2_]

On 3/26/2012 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:10:47 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 3/26/12 9:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:31:51 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

Watching someone from your truck is not pursuit, it is watching.
If it turns out Martin approached the truck, he was the pursuer.

When Zimmerman got out of his truck he initiated pursuit. Zimmerman
could have driven away and let the police handle the situation.
Zimmerman escalated the situation which resulted in Martin's death.

Zimmerman says he never approached or pursued Martin, he got out of
the truck to read a road sign.

You can't fault a teenager for looking into a car, it is what they do.

When you have had dozens of car burglaries, that is suspicious.

The transcript from the gir;lfriend seems to support that. The initial
contact was Martin confronting Zimmerman in that call.

You mean Martin confronted a man who got of his car and pursued Martin.
Zimmerman is the adult in this whole situation and he should have shown
better judgment.

There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears
the opposite is true.
He says he was jumped from behind.

Of course he says that. And you believe him.

The Sanford Police believe him and a few of us are still willing to
wait to see if the FBI believes him.

It is the people who have already made up their mind that he chased
Martin down and shot him (some even believe, in the back) who are
doing the lynching.

Nobody Believes Martin was shot in the back, but bigots and racists will
say it anyway because it suits their agenda. The hypocrisy is in their
willingness to take away a citizens rights in the name of someone elses...

People on the left came to this story with the same kind of prejudice
that was common 60 years ago in Mississippi when a black man killed a
white man.

X ` Man[_3_]

On 3/26/12 10:28 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:10:47 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

On 3/26/12 9:01 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:31:51 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

Watching someone from your truck is not pursuit, it is watching.
If it turns out Martin approached the truck, he was the pursuer.

When Zimmerman got out of his truck he initiated pursuit. Zimmerman
could have driven away and let the police handle the situation.
Zimmerman escalated the situation which resulted in Martin's death.

Zimmerman says he never approached or pursued Martin, he got out of
the truck to read a road sign.

You can't fault a teenager for looking into a car, it is what they do.

When you have had dozens of car burglaries, that is suspicious.

The transcript from the gir;lfriend seems to support that. The initial
contact was Martin confronting Zimmerman in that call.

You mean Martin confronted a man who got of his car and pursued Martin.
Zimmerman is the adult in this whole situation and he should have shown
better judgment.

There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears
the opposite is true.
He says he was jumped from behind.

Of course he says that. And you believe him.

The Sanford Police believe him and a few of us are still willing to
wait to see if the FBI believes him.

It is the people who have already made up their mind that he chased
Martin down and shot him (some even believe, in the back) who are
doing the lynching.
People on the left came to this story with the same kind of prejudice
that was common 60 years ago in Mississippi when a black man killed a
white man.

The Sanford police have a long history of anti-black prejudice. Even the
chief, now on paid leave, admits that.

BAR[_2_]

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:48:40 -0700, jps wrote:

All one needs to know is that Zimmerman pursued the eventual victim,
after being told to stand down and wait for police.

Not true. The exact words were "we don't NEED you to do that". There
was never a comment that he shouldn't.

This fat **** needed to stay in his car. A 17 year old kid would be
alive and no one would want to skin his fat ass alive.

If the kid had just kept walking he would be alive too but he chose to
turn around and attack Zimmerman because he did not like the way he
was looking at him.

The kid would have been still been alive is Zimmerman had not gotten out
of his vehicle and pursued the kid. Zimmerman initiated the entire
incident.

BAR[_2_]

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:31:51 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

Watching someone from your truck is not pursuit, it is watching.
If it turns out Martin approached the truck, he was the pursuer.

When Zimmerman got out of his truck he initiated pursuit. Zimmerman
could have driven away and let the police handle the situation.
Zimmerman escalated the situation which resulted in Martin's death.

Zimmerman says he never approached or pursued Martin, he got out of
the truck to read a road sign.

Nice twist.

You can't fault a teenager for looking into a car, it is what they do.

When you have had dozens of car burglaries, that is suspicious.

Zimmerman was wholly inadequate to be involved in the situation.

The transcript from the gir;lfriend seems to support that. The initial
contact was Martin confronting Zimmerman in that call.

You mean Martin confronted a man who got of his car and pursued Martin.
Zimmerman is the adult in this whole situation and he should have shown
better judgment.

There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears
the opposite is true.
He says he was jumped from behind.

No evidence yet.

JustWait[_2_]

On 3/27/2012 7:28 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:48:40 -0700, wrote:

All one needs to know is that Zimmerman pursued the eventual victim,
after being told to stand down and wait for police.

Not true. The exact words were "we don't NEED you to do that". There
was never a comment that he shouldn't.

This fat **** needed to stay in his car. A 17 year old kid would be
alive and no one would want to skin his fat ass alive.

If the kid had just kept walking he would be alive too but he chose to
turn around and attack Zimmerman because he did not like the way he
was looking at him.

The kid would have been still been alive is Zimmerman had not gotten out
of his vehicle and pursued the kid. Zimmerman initiated the entire
incident.

Too much bull**** to know that... First off, Zimmerman is not "white" as
the New York Lies suggests, and why do they keep showing three year old
pictures of Martin? Could it be that he is a lot bigger and more
imposing now? The media has not given any of you the facts, that's why
the FBI is in there... Hopefully Holder's racist Dept of Justice for
Black Panthers and associates doesn't get any more involved, that's just
campaign hookeybookey...

X ` Man[_3_]

On 3/27/12 7:55 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/27/2012 7:28 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:48:40 -0700, wrote:

All one needs to know is that Zimmerman pursued the eventual victim,
after being told to stand down and wait for police.

Not true. The exact words were "we don't NEED you to do that". There
was never a comment that he shouldn't.

This fat **** needed to stay in his car. A 17 year old kid would be
alive and no one would want to skin his fat ass alive.

If the kid had just kept walking he would be alive too but he chose to
turn around and attack Zimmerman because he did not like the way he
was looking at him.

The kid would have been still been alive is Zimmerman had not gotten out
of his vehicle and pursued the kid. Zimmerman initiated the entire
incident.

Too much bull**** to know that... First off, Zimmerman is not "white" as
the New York Lies suggests, and why do they keep showing three year old
pictures of Martin? Could it be that he is a lot bigger and more
imposing now? The media has not given any of you the facts, that's why
the FBI is in there... Hopefully Holder's racist Dept of Justice for
Black Panthers and associates doesn't get any more involved, that's just
campaign hookeybookey...

You know, Little Toad, these "portraits" you offer up of how your "mind"
works are fascinating. Do you ever read what you post before you post?

1. There have been "newer" photos of the murder victim show. I don't
know whether I've seen one of him taken in the last six months. His
height and weight, however, have been disclosed. The victim was much
smaller than the murderer.

2. The FBI is not involved in the case now because "the media" has not
given us the facts. As a point of fact, plenty of facts about this
tragedy have been disclosed by the media.

3. On the one hand, you seem to like the idea that the FBI is involved
because you claim the media has not given up the facts and on the other
hand you call the Department of Justice (and therefore the FBI, which is
part of the DOJ) racist.

4. Gotta love your insane "affiliation" of the DOJ with the Black
Panthers. You really need to wean yourself off the bat**** crazy
right-wing propaganda channels and websites.

JustWait[_2_]

On 3/27/2012 8:15 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 3/27/12 7:55 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/27/2012 7:28 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:48:40 -0700, wrote:

All one needs to know is that Zimmerman pursued the eventual victim,
after being told to stand down and wait for police.

Not true. The exact words were "we don't NEED you to do that". There
was never a comment that he shouldn't.

This fat **** needed to stay in his car. A 17 year old kid would be
alive and no one would want to skin his fat ass alive.

If the kid had just kept walking he would be alive too but he chose to
turn around and attack Zimmerman because he did not like the way he
was looking at him.

The kid would have been still been alive is Zimmerman had not gotten out
of his vehicle and pursued the kid. Zimmerman initiated the entire
incident.

Too much bull**** to know that... First off, Zimmerman is not "white" as
the New York Lies suggests, and why do they keep showing three year old
pictures of Martin? Could it be that he is a lot bigger and more
imposing now? The media has not given any of you the facts, that's why
the FBI is in there... Hopefully Holder's racist Dept of Justice for
Black Panthers and associates doesn't get any more involved, that's just
campaign hookeybookey...

You know, Little Toad,

You know you fat ass piece of dog ****... I don't read your posts...

X ` Man[_3_]

On 3/27/12 8:21 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/27/2012 8:15 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 3/27/12 7:55 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 3/27/2012 7:28 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:48:40 -0700, wrote:

All one needs to know is that Zimmerman pursued the eventual victim,
after being told to stand down and wait for police.

Not true. The exact words were "we don't NEED you to do that". There
was never a comment that he shouldn't.

This fat **** needed to stay in his car. A 17 year old kid would be
alive and no one would want to skin his fat ass alive.

If the kid had just kept walking he would be alive too but he chose to
turn around and attack Zimmerman because he did not like the way he
was looking at him.

The kid would have been still been alive is Zimmerman had not gotten
out
of his vehicle and pursued the kid. Zimmerman initiated the entire
incident.

Too much bull**** to know that... First off, Zimmerman is not "white" as
the New York Lies suggests, and why do they keep showing three year old
pictures of Martin? Could it be that he is a lot bigger and more
imposing now? The media has not given any of you the facts, that's why
the FBI is in there... Hopefully Holder's racist Dept of Justice for
Black Panthers and associates doesn't get any more involved, that's just
campaign hookeybookey...

You know, Little Toad,

You know you fat ass piece of dog ****... I don't read your posts...

Bull****.

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