On 1/6/12 6:10 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 1/6/2012 3:34 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 10:52:04 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

We were paid nearly three times the minimum wage at that time, plus
bennies.

Minimum wage in 1963 was about a buck an hour.

Actually from what I read, it was $.25 an hour till sometime in 1963
when President Kennedy raised it to $1.25...

The modern federal minimum wage legislation was reestablished in 1938,
at 25 cents an hour.

On Jan 6, 3:15*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 16:03:09 -0500, Happy John
wrote:

Hell, I was making more than that as a fry-cook at Garst's Drive-In in Sedalia, MO, in 1963. You
must have your dad's pay way off.

Let's just agree that there was even a huge wage disparity in 1963 too
and go boating!

The boat is in the water, cooler packed and
I am casting off as soon as my wife gets home

I feel for you!

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 16:15:14 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 16:03:09 -0500, Happy John
wrote:

Hell, I was making more than that as a fry-cook at Garst's Drive-In in Sedalia, MO, in 1963. You
must have your dad's pay way off.

Let's just agree that there was even a huge wage disparity in 1963 too
and go boating!

The boat is in the water, cooler packed and
I am casting off as soon as my wife gets home

Thass what I like to hear!

wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:51:48 -0700,
wrote:

The cheapest way to own a boat is to use it a lot. Then your per hour
cost drops to a very low number.
Or rent it. Also saves patching up road chipping and the like. Better
gas millage too when getting there.

--
Most of the people I know would be thousands of dollars a year ahead
if they just rented a boat on the dozen days a year they actually go
out. By the time you amortize a $40,000 boat over the 40 or 50 times
they use it before it just rots on the lift and toss in the
maintenance headaches from stale gas and other things sitting around
unused causes, $150 an hour rental is a bargain. They usually end up
getting a few thousand on a trade in and start over, promising
themselves they will try to use the boat more next time.
We get out 3 times a week for a couple hours each and I figure boating
costs me less than $8-10 an hour, all costs including maintenance and
gas in the computation. Gas is the biggest part of that number and
when we go slow in manatee season or when my wife says it is cold
(below 80) that can get me closer to $6-7 an hour.
That's an interesting thought but I prefer to have my boat available
whenever I need it and I'm lucky enough to live in an area where I can
use it 300+ days a year!

Tim wrote:
On Jan 5, 3:02 am, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:51:48 -0700,
wrote:

The cheapest way to own a boat is to use it a lot. Then your per hour
cost drops to a very low number.
Or rent it. Also saves patching up road chipping and the like. Better
gas millage too when getting there.
--
Most of the people I know would be thousands of dollars a year ahead
if they just rented a boat on the dozen days a year they actually go
out. By the time you amortize a $40,000 boat over the 40 or 50 times
they use it before it just rots on the lift and toss in the
maintenance headaches from stale gas and other things sitting around
unused causes, $150 an hour rental is a bargain. They usually end up
getting a few thousand on a trade in and start over, promising
themselves they will try to use the boat more next time.
We get out 3 times a week for a couple hours each and I figure boating
costs me less than $8-10 an hour, all costs including maintenance and
gas in the computation. Gas is the biggest part of that number and
when we go slow in manatee season or when my wife says it is cold
(below 80) that can get me closer to $6-7 an hour.
round here, there's not much chance on renting a boat that is unless
it's some giant houseboat. The marina liabilities won't allow it.
Search for boating clubs in your area. They are fractional ownership
clubs with several boats from which you can choose. Some offer a
variety depending on the use you have in mind - fishing, cruising,
overnighting, etc.

wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:35:58 -0500,
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:51:48 -0700,
wrote:

The cheapest way to own a boat is to use it a lot. Then your per hour
cost drops to a very low number.
Or rent it. Also saves patching up road chipping and the like. Better
gas millage too when getting there.

--
Most of the people I know would be thousands of dollars a year ahead
if they just rented a boat on the dozen days a year they actually go
out. By the time you amortize a $40,000 boat over the 40 or 50 times
they use it before it just rots on the lift and toss in the
maintenance headaches from stale gas and other things sitting around
unused causes, $150 an hour rental is a bargain. They usually end up
getting a few thousand on a trade in and start over, promising
themselves they will try to use the boat more next time.
We get out 3 times a week for a couple hours each and I figure boating
costs me less than $8-10 an hour, all costs including maintenance and
gas in the computation. Gas is the biggest part of that number and
when we go slow in manatee season or when my wife says it is cold
(below 80) that can get me closer to $6-7 an hour.
That's an interesting thought but I prefer to have my boat available
whenever I need it and I'm lucky enough to live in an area where I can
use it 300+ days a year!
The question is, will you?
I log about 300 hours a year so it is easy to justify owning a boat.
There are other people here who don't use 10% of that a year.
I boated over 400 hours last year - about 285 underway according to the
hour meters. Much of that was fishing and trolling - I have a
trailerable center console fishing boat.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:29:29 -0500, Earl wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:35:58 -0500,
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:51:48 -0700,
wrote:

The cheapest way to own a boat is to use it a lot. Then your per hour
cost drops to a very low number.
Or rent it. Also saves patching up road chipping and the like. Better
gas millage too when getting there.

--
Most of the people I know would be thousands of dollars a year ahead
if they just rented a boat on the dozen days a year they actually go
out. By the time you amortize a $40,000 boat over the 40 or 50 times
they use it before it just rots on the lift and toss in the
maintenance headaches from stale gas and other things sitting around
unused causes, $150 an hour rental is a bargain. They usually end up
getting a few thousand on a trade in and start over, promising
themselves they will try to use the boat more next time.
We get out 3 times a week for a couple hours each and I figure boating
costs me less than $8-10 an hour, all costs including maintenance and
gas in the computation. Gas is the biggest part of that number and
when we go slow in manatee season or when my wife says it is cold
(below 80) that can get me closer to $6-7 an hour.
That's an interesting thought but I prefer to have my boat available
whenever I need it and I'm lucky enough to live in an area where I can
use it 300+ days a year!
The question is, will you?
I log about 300 hours a year so it is easy to justify owning a boat.
There are other people here who don't use 10% of that a year.
I boated over 400 hours last year - about 285 underway according to the
hour meters. Much of that was fishing and trolling - I have a
trailerable center console fishing boat.

Best way to go, in my opinion. I got my Key West 186 CC a couple years ago and love it!

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:20:00 -0500, wrote:

That's an interesting thought but I prefer to have my boat available
whenever I need it and I'm lucky enough to live in an area where I can
use it 300+ days a year!

The question is, will you?
I log about 300 hours a year so it is easy to justify owning a boat.
There are other people here who don't use 10% of that a year.

===

We've logged about 3,000 hours on the trawler over 7 years, another
200+ on the runabout, and at least another several hundred on the
dinghies.

On 1/10/2012 10:54 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:20:00 -0500, wrote:

That's an interesting thought but I prefer to have my boat available
whenever I need it and I'm lucky enough to live in an area where I can
use it 300+ days a year!

The question is, will you?
I log about 300 hours a year so it is easy to justify owning a boat.
There are other people here who don't use 10% of that a year.

===

We've logged about 3,000 hours on the trawler over 7 years, another
200+ on the runabout, and at least another several hundred on the
dinghies.



Whats it cost you a year to live like that? Just wonderin'...

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:56:57 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 1/10/2012 10:54 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:20:00 -0500, wrote:

That's an interesting thought but I prefer to have my boat available
whenever I need it and I'm lucky enough to live in an area where I can
use it 300+ days a year!

The question is, will you?
I log about 300 hours a year so it is easy to justify owning a boat.
There are other people here who don't use 10% of that a year.

===

We've logged about 3,000 hours on the trawler over 7 years, another
200+ on the runabout, and at least another several hundred on the
dinghies.



Whats it cost you a year to live like that? Just wonderin'...

===

I honestly don't know and purposely avoid that calculation. The cost
of cruising runs all over the map depending a lot on how much time you
spend in marinas and restaurants. Many of our ownership costs are
fixed regardless of whether we use the boat are not, even some of the
maintenance expenses. Our average fuel burn is about 7 to 8
gallons/hour when underway, about $30 at current prices. Variable
maintenance costs probably add another 50 to 100%.