On 8/5/2011 11:26 AM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 10:29 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
On 8/5/2011 9:59 AM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 9:42 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
On 8/5/2011 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X - Man" wrote in message ...


You right-wing circle jerkers wouldn't know "well-reasoned" from
"well-seasoned." You and several of your fellow low IQ righties don't
have the brain power to discern what is well-reasoned and what isn't.
Most of you barely got out of high school. You, Ingersoll, Canuckles,
your buddy the ID spoofer, et cetera, are the best argument against
social promotions.

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Insults aside, there aren't any Ivy League college grads running
around
with much of a clue about what to do either, including our wonderful
"leaders" in Congress.

Sometimes common sense serves better than college courses/degrees on
economics, especially when all the traditional rules have changed.

Hate to say it, but there is no simple solution. The revised cry for
"Jobs, Jobs, Jobs" in DC are meaningless. There aren't any.
Any jobs created will be federally funded or subsidized "make work"
programs but there's no money to pay for them.

The real problem is not being addressed. The real solutions are not
very
popular to many. Some of the TeaBagger's views unfortunately have some
merit. The USA cannot compete in a global economy like it did since
the
end of WWII. Our economic growth was based on internal competition
among
companies within the USA, giving rise to artificially high pay and
benefit packages when compared to the rest of the industrialized
world.
The rise of countries like China as a major manufacturing country has
changed all that.

Expecting USA based companies to invest in manufacturing facilities in
the USA is a fairy tale. Isn't going to happen as long as they have to
compete with the manufacturing costs overseas. Demands that "Big
Corporations" pay their fair share of taxes sounds good and is
justified
but collection of those taxes is a pimple on an elephants ass compared
to the revenues required to pay USA debt, let alone finance "make
work"
programs.
Right now 60 percent of Americans receive more federal money and
benefits than they pay in taxes. 50 percent of Americans don't pay
taxes
at all and both those percentage numbers are rising.

We may have no choice but to go back to basics. Entitlements will have
to be scaled back as will defense spending, foreign aid and all other
federal spending programs. Families will have to go back to taking
care
of each other and pooling resources. Many in Europe and Asia have been
doing that for years.

When the Chinese worker begins to realize that he/she is working for a
fraction of the compensation paid elsewhere in the world and begins to
revolt things may start to change. As it does, an American worker who
used to receive the equivalent of $50 to $90 per hour in pay and
benefits is going to have to adjust to living on half of that. The
$300K
house he/she lives in is going to be worth $150K .

Sorry to sound so dismal, but that's how I see it.

Eisboch





You got it just about right. Sometimes I think the solution would be
for
the congress critters to go to a grocery with their spouse or whoever
has been doing the shopping for the family (at least till they hit
washington and got handmaids to do their living for them). Gas is
double, milk is double, meat is double... Used to get gas for 2 bucks,
now it's 4, milk was 2, now it's 4 everywhere, beef was $1.79 lb,
average, now it's 4 dollars a pound, chicken (boneless breast) was on
sale for 1.29 a pound, now it's on sale for 2.39 and regularly
priced at
about 3-4... I bought shorts the other day, 25 dollars, last year I
bought the exact same pair, at the same store (Wallyworld), 15
dollars...

Nobody is racing, and fortunately I don't see Harry's garbage so I can
mention this... An average race weekend was 350 - 500 dollars for tent
campers like ourselves, 1000 for mobile home owners. We are getting
begged by each and every org locally to come race, but with life in
general costing us about 200 dollars a week more than it did just two
years ago, we and about 65% of all the other racers in our divisions
just can't afford it.

Granted, we are small fish in a big ocean. Going racing this weekend
for
only the third time this season, a local track, we can do a day race if
we wake at 4 am and drive in, brown bag lunch, make ice all week in
prep, refill water bottles with crystal light or similar... for
about 90
dollars with gas and gate fees, the economy is killing our sport and we
come with 8 foot Jeep towing an 8 foot trailer...

You have an expensive hobby. We just booked 3 camping nights at Disney
and 1 day theme park tickets for $425. And that's for a hard sided
camper with wheels.

Hey, I just reread your post, that's not too far off. Now if you figure
the logistics like food, ice, gas, etc.... Surely you get right up there
around a grand or more, right??


Not quite. Maybe one fancy dinner out and a couple of lunches at most. I
cook most of the meals. Gas is insignificant. We get a whopping 7 MPG.
Yup, that's how we have always been. Even when I had a bunch of boats,
we would always brown bag, and make it cheap fun.. But a lot of it. Say
hi to the Mouse for me, last time we were there Melissa tackled him

On 8/5/11 12:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
But a lot of it. Say
hi to the Mouse for me, last time we were there Melissa tackled him


Ahh, the well-behaved Ingersoll clan.

On 8/5/2011 12:08 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
But a lot of it. Say
hi to the Mouse for me, last time we were there Melissa tackled him


Ahh, the well-behaved Ingersoll clan.


Atlas going up in 5 minutes.
BTW FY

On 8/5/11 12:20 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 12:08 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
But a lot of it. Say
hi to the Mouse for me, last time we were there Melissa tackled him


Ahh, the well-behaved Ingersoll clan.


Atlas going up in 5 minutes.
BTW FY


Yeah, I have a great interest in Lego astronauts.

We took our kids to Disneyworld and Disneyland a number of times. If my
daughter or son "tackled" one of the Disney character actors, he or she
would have been escorted back to the hotel room for the rest of the day
and maybe for the rest of the visit. Apparently the Ingersoll kids are
going to turn out like their ill-mannered father, who got shoved around
at the police station by...the police.



--
Don't forget to leave a bit of beef for rec.boat's right-wing
conservatrashers and ID spoofers to feed upon. The more they feed, the
quicker rec.boats will fall into the black hole of cyberspace and disappear.

In article ,
says...

On 8/5/11 12:20 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 12:08 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
But a lot of it. Say
hi to the Mouse for me, last time we were there Melissa tackled him


Ahh, the well-behaved Ingersoll clan.


Atlas going up in 5 minutes.
BTW FY


Yeah, I have a great interest in Lego astronauts.

We took our kids to Disneyworld and Disneyland a number of times. If my
daughter or son "tackled" one of the Disney character actors, he or she
would have been escorted back to the hotel room for the rest of the day
and maybe for the rest of the visit. Apparently the Ingersoll kids are
going to turn out like their ill-mannered father, who got shoved around
at the police station by...the police.

Again, the spoofer got this right. Just because you go to Disneyland it
damned sure doesn't mean you have to have fun and let loose. If my kids
didn't act like they were goose-stepping zombies they'd have to sit in
the hotel room while the rest of us got to go, find a bench to sit on
and stoically watch others have fun.

On 8/5/2011 12:35 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:20 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 12:08 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
But a lot of it. Say
hi to the Mouse for me, last time we were there Melissa tackled him


Ahh, the well-behaved Ingersoll clan.


Atlas going up in 5 minutes.
BTW FY


Yeah, I have a great interest in Lego astronauts.

We took our kids to Disneyworld and Disneyland a number of times. If my
daughter or son "tackled" one of the Disney character actors, he or she
would have been escorted back to the hotel room for the rest of the day
and maybe for the rest of the visit. Apparently the Ingersoll kids are
going to turn out like their ill-mannered father, who got shoved around
at the police station by...the police.



Lego astronauts? Must be Harry speak for I don't GAS about anything but
Harry Krause.


Who is "We"' Would it be the kids birth mother or one of the younger wives?

On 8/5/11 1:13 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 12:35 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:20 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 12:08 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
But a lot of it. Say
hi to the Mouse for me, last time we were there Melissa tackled him


Ahh, the well-behaved Ingersoll clan.


Atlas going up in 5 minutes.
BTW FY


Yeah, I have a great interest in Lego astronauts.

We took our kids to Disneyworld and Disneyland a number of times. If my
daughter or son "tackled" one of the Disney character actors, he or she
would have been escorted back to the hotel room for the rest of the day
and maybe for the rest of the visit. Apparently the Ingersoll kids are
going to turn out like their ill-mannered father, who got shoved around
at the police station by...the police.



Lego astronauts? Must be Harry speak for I don't GAS about anything but
Harry Krause.


D'oh. You are interested in the rocket but not in the "crew"?

On 8/5/2011 1:19 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 1:13 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 12:35 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:20 PM, BeachBum wrote:
On 8/5/2011 12:08 PM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 12:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
But a lot of it. Say
hi to the Mouse for me, last time we were there Melissa tackled him


Ahh, the well-behaved Ingersoll clan.


Atlas going up in 5 minutes.
BTW FY


Yeah, I have a great interest in Lego astronauts.

We took our kids to Disneyworld and Disneyland a number of times. If my
daughter or son "tackled" one of the Disney character actors, he or she
would have been escorted back to the hotel room for the rest of the day
and maybe for the rest of the visit. Apparently the Ingersoll kids are
going to turn out like their ill-mannered father, who got shoved around
at the police station by...the police.



Lego astronauts? Must be Harry speak for I don't GAS about anything but
Harry Krause.


D'oh. You are interested in the rocket but not in the "crew"?





D'oh. Unmanned rockets don't have crews. Why does it not surprise me
that you didn't know that?

In article ,
says...

On 8/5/11 12:05 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
But a lot of it. Say
hi to the Mouse for me, last time we were there Melissa tackled him


Ahh, the well-behaved Ingersoll clan.

Hell even the spoofer got this one right. How DARE they have any fun?
They should be locked in their rooms taking practice tests like my
mother did to me. Much safer than playing outside or anything. I'm so
cowardly that I wouldn't dare rough house or have any real fun.