On 05/08/2011 7:36 AM, X - Man wrote:
On 8/5/11 8:59 AM, Eisboch wrote:


"X - Man" wrote in message ...


You right-wing circle jerkers wouldn't know "well-reasoned" from
"well-seasoned." You and several of your fellow low IQ righties don't
have the brain power to discern what is well-reasoned and what isn't.
Most of you barely got out of high school. You, Ingersoll, Canuckles,
your buddy the ID spoofer, et cetera, are the best argument against
social promotions.

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Insults aside, there aren't any Ivy League college grads running around
with much of a clue about what to do either, including our wonderful
"leaders" in Congress.

Sometimes common sense serves better than college courses/degrees on
economics, especially when all the traditional rules have changed.

Hate to say it, but there is no simple solution. The revised cry for
"Jobs, Jobs, Jobs" in DC are meaningless. There aren't any.
Any jobs created will be federally funded or subsidized "make work"
programs but there's no money to pay for them.

The real problem is not being addressed. The real solutions are not very
popular to many. Some of the TeaBagger's views unfortunately have some
merit. The USA cannot compete in a global economy like it did since the
end of WWII. Our economic growth was based on internal competition among
companies within the USA, giving rise to artificially high pay and
benefit packages when compared to the rest of the industrialized world.
The rise of countries like China as a major manufacturing country has
changed all that.

Expecting USA based companies to invest in manufacturing facilities in
the USA is a fairy tale. Isn't going to happen as long as they have to
compete with the manufacturing costs overseas. Demands that "Big
Corporations" pay their fair share of taxes sounds good and is justified
but collection of those taxes is a pimple on an elephants ass compared
to the revenues required to pay USA debt, let alone finance "make work"
programs.
Right now 60 percent of Americans receive more federal money and
benefits than they pay in taxes. 50 percent of Americans don't pay taxes
at all and both those percentage numbers are rising.

We may have no choice but to go back to basics. Entitlements will have
to be scaled back as will defense spending, foreign aid and all other
federal spending programs. Families will have to go back to taking care
of each other and pooling resources. Many in Europe and Asia have been
doing that for years.

When the Chinese worker begins to realize that he/she is working for a
fraction of the compensation paid elsewhere in the world and begins to
revolt things may start to change. As it does, an American worker who
used to receive the equivalent of $50 to $90 per hour in pay and
benefits is going to have to adjust to living on half of that. The $300K
house he/she lives in is going to be worth $150K .

Sorry to sound so dismal, but that's how I see it.

Eisboch







What we need is a restructuring of society here so that instead of
"semi-socialistic" we move all the way towards modern European
socialism. Most modern European socialist countries are doing ok, and
their average citizens are doing better than Americans. We have
half-assed socialism here and it doesn't work.

You can move there any time you want, provided you don't have a criminal
past and are not a welfare freeloader.

I have ived in UK and Norway, great places o visit and even work for a
short time while seeing the sights to get some Europe experience.

But be damned if I would want to live there without being filthy rich or
in the insider connected circle.

Funny you like their system, in there system you would be working right
now. They don't have welfare, they have workfare. Most people don't
travel much, can't afford it.
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Seems like paying your bills with real money is no longer the accepted
behavior in USA. Perhaps that is the problem and not the the solution.