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Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 11/07/2011 1:58 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 7/11/11 3:56 PM, Califbill wrote: Reply: Moron? We do not have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem! GO talking points bull****. Nothing more. Actually you have both. Revenue is down as investing in the USA right now carries high inflation, taxation and profitability risk, so much so not many are making money. And inflation decreases the value. So new job creation investment has dried up. You can see this in 2006 tax revenue, today it is 2/3rds of 2006. Than means your average business and personal income is less than 2/3rd in real dollars over 2006. Hey, can't tax the 20% of real unemployed and McJob replacements don't pay much taxes. But it is an Obamanation. Spending, this too. If government can increase spending in one year by a trillion, time to roll it back a trillion. And by borrowing more with tax increases, many businesses are just going to say f'k-it. -- Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future. And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags... |
#172
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Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On 7/11/11 7:56 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 11/07/2011 1:58 PM, Harryk wrote: On 7/11/11 3:56 PM, Califbill wrote: Reply: Moron? We do not have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem! GO talking points bull****. Nothing more. Actually you have both. Revenue is down as investing in the USA right now carries high inflation, taxation and profitability risk, so much so not many are making money. And inflation decreases the value. So new job creation investment has dried up. You can see this in 2006 tax revenue, today it is 2/3rds of 2006. Than means your average business and personal income is less than 2/3rd in real dollars over 2006. Hey, can't tax the 20% of real unemployed and McJob replacements don't pay much taxes. But it is an Obamanation. Spending, this too. If government can increase spending in one year by a trillion, time to roll it back a trillion. And by borrowing more with tax increases, many businesses are just going to say f'k-it. Did you even graduate from high school? |
#174
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Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:56:24 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 11/07/2011 1:58 PM, Harryk wrote: On 7/11/11 3:56 PM, Califbill wrote: Reply: Moron? We do not have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem! GO talking points bull****. Nothing more. Actually you have both. Revenue is down as investing in the USA right now carries high inflation, taxation and profitability risk, so much so not many are making money. And inflation decreases the value. So new job creation investment has dried up. what a HORSE"S ASS!! has he EVER taken a course in economics?? revenue isnt down because of investment; it's down because BUSH CUT THE TAX RATES AND THREW MILLION OUT OF WORK DUH!! what a moron he is. does he EVER get ANYTHING right?? You can see this in 2006 tax revenue, today it is 2/3rds of 2006. Than means your average business and personal income is less than 2/3rd in real dollars over 2006. Hey, can't tax the 20% of real unemployed and McJob replacements don't pay much taxes. But it is an Obamanation.' more diarrhea horse**** businesses are sitting on RECORD PROFITS. they have 1.8 TRILLION in cash. they're not spending because there's no demand because people are unemployed christ....this is what passes for economics in the right wing.... Spending, this too. If government can increase spending in one year by a trillion, time to roll it back a trillion. except, of course, unemployment DROPPED when we SPENT and it's INCREASING now that the stimulus is over jesus christ...he's more ignorant than a syphillitic sea slug |
#175
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Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:59:39 -0400, Harryk
wrote: On 7/11/11 7:56 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 11/07/2011 1:58 PM, Harryk wrote: On 7/11/11 3:56 PM, Califbill wrote: Reply: Moron? We do not have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem! GO talking points bull****. Nothing more. And by borrowing more with tax increases, many businesses are just going to say f'k-it. Did you even graduate from high school? it's amazing. EVERYTHING he says about economics is wrong. EVERYTHING. christ he's ignorant |
#176
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Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 18:10:19 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: Fact is the US standard of living is getting a huge devaluation. A byproduct of DEBT. Too much DEBT. The worship of DEBT is bad news. If you have no debt and bought oil, gold, food, your preserving your wealth. yep the richest 1% had a 500% increase in income in the last 30 years...the most lopsided transfer of wealth in the western world. that's why our middle class is dying. and it was GOP right wing economics that caused the debt. 2 tax cuts that were unfunded. and a trillion dollar war. big spenders these conservatives The bigger government gets, the less people mater. The only question is when will people in the USA realize the road to wealth is not paved with DEBT. canada has socialized medicine. 30% of its people are in labor unions in the US we have a 'free market' medical system. 7% in labor unions and canada is healthier. canuck doesnt know **** about canada let alone the US. |
#177
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Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:50:10 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 11/07/2011 1:56 PM, Califbill wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 22:48:18 -0400, L G wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: For the bits I get, congress is having a hard time getting Obama to cut $2 trillion in 10 years. Obama's idea is let it be the next presidents issue. The man has destroyed USA with debt. HAHAHAHA WRONG. what horsehit you kluxers spout. obama AGREED TO CUT EVERYTHING defense medicare social security EVERYTHING but the right wing said no tax increase WHAT A ****ING LIAR YOU ARE! |
#178
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Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:51:48 -0400, John H
wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:56:05 -0700, "Califbill" wrote: Sure there should be changes to the tax code, but those are not going to stop the deficit. May reduce in a minimal amount, but not what spending cuts would do. Kill the alcohol farm subsidy. Tax hedge fund managers at wage level not capitol gains level. Kill the cotton subsidy, kill a lot of the water subsidy. Where a farmer can pay $10 an acre foot and resell it to towns at $1000. Spending cuts are what are needed. There are not enough tax revenues available to rescue us. Well said. But, the one to whom you replied doesn't have enough sense to understand it. if you believe a single word that bull****ter said you're a flat lined moron |
#179
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Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:40:16 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 11/07/2011 2:04 PM, wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:11:56 -0600, wrote: On 11/07/2011 10:35 AM, Califbill wrote: "Harryk" wrote in message ... On 7/10/11 12:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 10/07/2011 9:38 AM, wf3h wrote: On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 12:23:22 -0600, wrote: On 08/07/2011 7:38 PM, wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:10:06 -0400, L wrote: wf3h wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 10:12:15 -0600, wrote: the govt is the smallest it's been in 60 years. to the right that's too big since it means they can still examine wall street Post proof or retract. you really are ****ing stupid, aren't you? you right wngers have NO ****ing idea about you views, what the facts are, etc. you just have your cliches and that's it ****ing IDIOT http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/...10-taxes_N.htm am i EVER wrong? no. YOU guys are IDIOTS Because people are unemployed idiot. Your average household has much less than 2/3rd the dollars coming in today than in 2006. Unless your a government civil servant that is, they just kept on growing. so let's see. you lied about the level of taxes. that's no surprise...you're right wing. you always lie. then you proved you didn't know **** about taxes. no surprise there either. the right wing doesnt know **** about taxes Spoken like a envious gutter slug. and the reason we dont have money in the US middle class? because in the last 30 years the richest 1% have had a 500% pay increase. that's where the money went. How much did you save? Oh, you screwed it away on toys and are now broke. Got it. so you dont know **** about the economic profile of the US, taxes or govt no surprise. you're right wing Conservative economics just works better. No ****. Told me to watch for 2008....while your liberal economic idiot deer were on the tracks in a comatose state, staring at the freight train. Going to get worse too. As government gets bigger, people get smaller. gee. taxes are the lowest they've been in 60 years. you just admitted that now you forgot it. again. you're right wing alright Taxes are low as people lost their jobs and unemployment is 1929 levels. Unemployed without alternative sources of income don't pay taxes. They are not lower for an individual that is working. During the Clinton years, when taxes on the wealthy were a bit higher, we had a budgetary surplus. Bush cut those slightly higher taxes on the wealthy and now we have deficits. D'oh. Clinton didn't have to service 9.7 trillion plus Obama-debt..... Trouble with debt is, if you double the debt it becomes 4 times the problem. The deeper you go, the less likely you are to get out. Government debt is like a mortgage but never gets paid off. So the first payment is every payment, almost 100% non-value added interest and servicing costs. Sure, go for the wealthy, but in reality they are the ones investing the cash return they get into job producing investments so even few job creating investments will be made. Hey, delinquent debtors and unions don't invest. And also know it reduces their future income tax. And wealthy to Obama is about anyone with a job and money. So with this wealth tax put back, how does Obama come up with the rest, still a $1.5 trillion deficit. Still no where close to a balanced budget. I get a kick out of this bull****. Congress obviously are just scared rabbits. They are talking 1 to 4 trillion in 10 years. They need to talk $1.7 trillion per year starting right now. Obama is playing the sluff it off to the next president game. Congress should just pass a $1.6 trillion cut it spending right now. Your average American has no clue what is about to happen to the USD...but here is a hint, depreciation of the USD (inflation) on the world markets is ramping up fast. And the government is already into spiral debt. May be even past the tipping point. Japanese have seen a 30% decrease in the standard of living in the last 3 years. It is coming to the USA. People should be mad as hornets. The only answer is an immediate downsize of the US government to fit revenue. Spend less than they rake in. Real money is gold, China and India now convert most of the cash to precious metals and not increasing the USD hold. USD is now failing as a world reserve currency. Only thing lacking is an alternative and the USD will become toilet paper. You're truly stupid. Sure, throw more people out of work. Gov't workers don't pay taxes or buy things. Oh wait, they do. But, those big corps who ship jobs overseas, they pay their fair share. Oh wait, they don't. That is the way it works, more government debt and overspend means more unemployment. Why should I have US holdings in such a buggered up economy based of fleabag greed and delinquent fleabag debt? Let the fleabags eat debt. What the hell are you belching about? You're fine with throwing people out of work, so you're a little man, with no balls, and computer. Big deal. |
#180
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Obama destroyed the USA with DEBT
On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 17:44:33 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 11/07/2011 3:48 PM, wf3h wrote: On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:11:56 -0600, wrote: On 11/07/2011 10:35 AM, Califbill wrote: "Harryk" wrote in message ... During the Clinton years, when taxes on the wealthy were a bit higher, we had a budgetary surplus. Bush cut those slightly higher taxes on the wealthy and now we have deficits. D'oh. Clinton didn't have to service 9.7 trillion plus Obama-debt..... can he name the debt? nope. can he tell us what obama did? nope but he knows obama's black... Sure, go for the wealthy, but in reality they are the ones investing the cash return they get into job producing investments so even few job creating investments will be made. more cliches and bull**** in lieu of evidence. capital gains today are as low as they've been in history. how's that working out? we at full employment? nope. the trickle down bull**** that causes the right wing to suck the cocks of the rich like a baby suck its mom's tits is a wonder to behold. the rich arent doing **** for america right now except sittling on piles of cash. the middle class bailed out the rich and the rich repaid us by laying us off and sitting on the money but the right wing ignores this. Hey, delinquent debtors and unions don't invest. And also know it reduces their future income tax. And wealthy to Obama is about anyone with a job and money. america has no unions. canuck sits in canada, with govt healthcare and more unions than the US has and canada's economy is healthier than the US. but he ignores that. more right wing bull**** So with this wealth tax put back, how does Obama come up with the rest, still a $1.5 trillion deficit. Still no where close to a balanced budget. and where is the GOP balanced budget? oh. there isnt one. Your average American has no clue what is about to happen to the USD. nor do you kluxer clown. ..he US government to fit revenue. Spend less than they rake in. Real money is gold, China and India now convert most of the cash to precious metals and not increasing the USD hold. USD is now failing as a world reserve currency. Only thing lacking is an alternative and the USD will become toilet paper. china is now having its own inflation problems. and the canadian dollar...with socialized medicine and strong unions is healthier than right wing free market america Yep. China is far better run economically than the US. US is into too much fiat ponzi debt fraud. You're far stupider than can be imagined. |
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