Many news orgs (try BBC) have reported on how Obama's ATF has been
running guns to Mexico supposedly as part of a "Sting" but these
thousands of weapons have been turning up actually being used by the
drug cartels and were used in the recent murder of a Border Patrol
agent who was only allowed to use beanbag ammo. Much of the recent
drug cartel violence was caused by these guns Obama's ATF
intentionally caused to be sold and now Americans are being killed by
them. Even the ATF has said these guns will be part of drug cartel
violence for years.
It seems that Obama has decided to declare war on the USA by using
parts of the bureaucracy to aid drug cartels and to obtain campaign
funds by selling guns to the cartels. The DNC doesn't care if
Americans get killed just as they conspired to import children as sex
slaves to fund their campaigns.

On 3/8/11 1:40 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Many news orgs (try BBC) have reported on how Obama's ATF has been
running guns to Mexico supposedly as part of a "Sting" but these
thousands of weapons have been turning up actually being used by the
drug cartels and were used in the recent murder of a Border Patrol
agent who was only allowed to use beanbag ammo. Much of the recent
drug cartel violence was caused by these guns Obama's ATF
intentionally caused to be sold and now Americans are being killed by
them. Even the ATF has said these guns will be part of drug cartel
violence for years.
It seems that Obama has decided to declare war on the USA by using
parts of the bureaucracy to aid drug cartels and to obtain campaign
funds by selling guns to the cartels. The DNC doesn't care if
Americans get killed just as they conspired to import children as sex
slaves to fund their campaigns.

What a crock.

What's next, an expose of how Reagan personally sold guns to the contras?

On Mar 8, 1:40*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Many news orgs (try BBC) have reported on how Obama's ATF has been
running guns to Mexico supposedly as part of a "Sting" but these
thousands of weapons have been turning up actually being used by the
drug cartels and were used in the recent murder of a Border Patrol
agent who was only allowed to use beanbag ammo. *Much of the recent
drug cartel violence was caused by these guns Obama's ATF
intentionally caused to be sold and now Americans are being killed by
them. *Even the ATF has said these guns will be part of drug cartel
violence for years.
It seems that Obama has decided to declare war on the USA by using
parts of the bureaucracy to aid drug cartels and to obtain campaign
funds by selling guns to the cartels. *The DNC doesn't care if
Americans get killed just as they conspired to import children as sex
slaves to fund their campaigns.

....and you were doing so well with Boat-related postings! darn.

On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:40:32 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

Many news orgs (try BBC) have reported on how Obama's ATF has been
running guns to Mexico supposedly as part of a "Sting" but these
thousands of weapons have been turning up actually being used by the
drug cartels and were used in the recent murder of a Border Patrol
agent who was only allowed to use beanbag ammo. Much of the recent
drug cartel violence was caused by these guns Obama's ATF
intentionally caused to be sold and now Americans are being killed by
them. Even the ATF has said these guns will be part of drug cartel
violence for years.
It seems that Obama has decided to declare war on the USA by using
parts of the bureaucracy to aid drug cartels and to obtain campaign
funds by selling guns to the cartels. The DNC doesn't care if
Americans get killed just as they conspired to import children as sex
slaves to fund their campaigns.


Yes, the DNC uses sex slaves to fund their campaigns. It was a tactic
stolen from Karl Rove, the idea's original engineer.

Yes, the *ATF* was completely dismantled and *Obama's ATF* was put it
its place.

Gun show loopholes ensure there's an ample supply for the Mexican
market. Hey, it's a free country, vato.

On Mar 8, 2:29*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:40:32 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
Many news orgs (try BBC) have reported on how Obama's ATF has been
running guns to Mexico supposedly as part of a "Sting" but these
thousands of weapons have been turning up actually being used by the
drug cartels and were used in the recent murder of a Border Patrol
agent who was only allowed to use beanbag ammo. *Much of the recent
drug cartel violence was caused by these guns Obama's ATF
intentionally caused to be sold and now Americans are being killed by
them. *Even the ATF has said these guns will be part of drug cartel
violence for years.
It seems that Obama has decided to declare war on the USA by using
parts of the bureaucracy to aid drug cartels and to obtain campaign
funds by selling guns to the cartels. *The DNC doesn't care if
Americans get killed just as they conspired to import children as sex
slaves to fund their campaigns.

Yes, the DNC uses sex slaves to fund their campaigns. *It was a tactic
stolen from Karl Rove, the idea's original engineer.

Yes, the *ATF* was completely dismantled and *Obama's ATF* was put it
its place. *

Gun show loopholes ensure there's an ample supply for the Mexican
market. *Hey, it's a free country, vato.

The ATF specifically broke the law by selling to known felons. Pvt
individuals could not legally do so. Stats on the so-called "gun Show
Loophole" are mostly compiled by the ATF which is now known to be a
seller of guns to criminals. they simply do not want any competition.
The Obama admin is now complicit in murder and in drug cartels.

On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 12:16:53 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Mar 8, 2:29*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:40:32 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
Many news orgs (try BBC) have reported on how Obama's ATF has been
running guns to Mexico supposedly as part of a "Sting" but these
thousands of weapons have been turning up actually being used by the
drug cartels and were used in the recent murder of a Border Patrol
agent who was only allowed to use beanbag ammo. *Much of the recent
drug cartel violence was caused by these guns Obama's ATF
intentionally caused to be sold and now Americans are being killed by
them. *Even the ATF has said these guns will be part of drug cartel
violence for years.
It seems that Obama has decided to declare war on the USA by using
parts of the bureaucracy to aid drug cartels and to obtain campaign
funds by selling guns to the cartels. *The DNC doesn't care if
Americans get killed just as they conspired to import children as sex
slaves to fund their campaigns.

Yes, the DNC uses sex slaves to fund their campaigns. *It was a tactic
stolen from Karl Rove, the idea's original engineer.

Yes, the *ATF* was completely dismantled and *Obama's ATF* was put it
its place. *

Gun show loopholes ensure there's an ample supply for the Mexican
market. *Hey, it's a free country, vato.

The ATF specifically broke the law by selling to known felons. Pvt
individuals could not legally do so. Stats on the so-called "gun Show
Loophole" are mostly compiled by the ATF which is now known to be a
seller of guns to criminals. they simply do not want any competition.
The Obama admin is now complicit in murder and in drug cartels.

Wow, surprised that I never heard that last phrase applied to the Bush
Administration while 10s of thousands of Iraqis died along with our
distinguished American brethren in Bush's war of choice based on lies.

Did I somehow miss that post from you?

On 3/8/11 3:16 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
On Mar 8, 2:29 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:40:32 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch

wrote:
Many news orgs (try BBC) have reported on how Obama's ATF has been
running guns to Mexico supposedly as part of a "Sting" but these
thousands of weapons have been turning up actually being used by the
drug cartels and were used in the recent murder of a Border Patrol
agent who was only allowed to use beanbag ammo. Much of the recent
drug cartel violence was caused by these guns Obama's ATF
intentionally caused to be sold and now Americans are being killed by
them. Even the ATF has said these guns will be part of drug cartel
violence for years.
It seems that Obama has decided to declare war on the USA by using
parts of the bureaucracy to aid drug cartels and to obtain campaign
funds by selling guns to the cartels. The DNC doesn't care if
Americans get killed just as they conspired to import children as sex
slaves to fund their campaigns.

Yes, the DNC uses sex slaves to fund their campaigns. It was a tactic
stolen from Karl Rove, the idea's original engineer.

Yes, the *ATF* was completely dismantled and *Obama's ATF* was put it
its place.

Gun show loopholes ensure there's an ample supply for the Mexican
market. Hey, it's a free country, vato.

The ATF specifically broke the law by selling to known felons. Pvt
individuals could not legally do so. Stats on the so-called "gun Show
Loophole" are mostly compiled by the ATF which is now known to be a
seller of guns to criminals. they simply do not want any competition.
The Obama admin is now complicit in murder and in drug cartels.

You are one wild and crazy guy, frogman. What's scary is that nutcases
like you are running around free, instead of being institutionalized.

On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:57:47 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

On 3/8/11 1:40 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Many news orgs (try BBC) have reported on how Obama's ATF has been
running guns to Mexico supposedly as part of a "Sting" but these
thousands of weapons have been turning up actually being used by the
drug cartels and were used in the recent murder of a Border Patrol
agent who was only allowed to use beanbag ammo. Much of the recent
drug cartel violence was caused by these guns Obama's ATF
intentionally caused to be sold and now Americans are being killed by
them. Even the ATF has said these guns will be part of drug cartel
violence for years.
It seems that Obama has decided to declare war on the USA by using
parts of the bureaucracy to aid drug cartels and to obtain campaign
funds by selling guns to the cartels. The DNC doesn't care if
Americans get killed just as they conspired to import children as sex
slaves to fund their campaigns.

What a crock.

What's next, an expose of how Reagan personally sold guns to the contras?

He's a mental case... and Reagan was also.

On Mar 8, 6:07*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:57:47 -0500, Harryk
wrote:



On 3/8/11 1:40 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Many news orgs (try BBC) have reported on how Obama's ATF has been
running guns to Mexico supposedly as part of a "Sting" but these
thousands of weapons have been turning up actually being used by the
drug cartels and were used in the recent murder of a Border Patrol
agent who was only allowed to use beanbag ammo. *Much of the recent
drug cartel violence was caused by these guns Obama's ATF
intentionally caused to be sold and now Americans are being killed by
them. *Even the ATF has said these guns will be part of drug cartel
violence for years.
It seems that Obama has decided to declare war on the USA by using
parts of the bureaucracy to aid drug cartels and to obtain campaign
funds by selling guns to the cartels. *The DNC doesn't care if
Americans get killed just as they conspired to import children as sex
slaves to fund their campaigns.

What a crock.

What's next, an expose of how Reagan personally sold guns to the contras?

He's a mental case... and Reagan was also.

Look at the numbers. ATF claims they delivered about 1700 guns to the
cartel. 2 of these guns were found at th recent crime scene where a
border patrol agent was killed. For this to be a high probability
event (higher than 50%), the ATF must be responsible for MOST guns
sent to Mexico illegally. They claim to have recovered about 700 of
these guns at crime scenes. This implies that ATF is responsible for
NEARLY ALL guns sent to Mexico illegally.
How many guns is ATF really sending to Mexico anyway for them to be
recovering them at so many crime scenes? it has to be far more than
the have been telling us. Obama is financing both sides of a drug war
on our borders simply to finace his campaign. No wonder he doesn't
want to stop the flow of illegals or to enhance border security, he is
profiting from the madness.

On Mar 8, 6:07*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:57:47 -0500, Harryk
wrote:



On 3/8/11 1:40 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Many news orgs (try BBC) have reported on how Obama's ATF has been
running guns to Mexico supposedly as part of a "Sting" but these
thousands of weapons have been turning up actually being used by the
drug cartels and were used in the recent murder of a Border Patrol
agent who was only allowed to use beanbag ammo. *Much of the recent
drug cartel violence was caused by these guns Obama's ATF
intentionally caused to be sold and now Americans are being killed by
them. *Even the ATF has said these guns will be part of drug cartel
violence for years.
It seems that Obama has decided to declare war on the USA by using
parts of the bureaucracy to aid drug cartels and to obtain campaign
funds by selling guns to the cartels. *The DNC doesn't care if
Americans get killed just as they conspired to import children as sex
slaves to fund their campaigns.

What a crock.

What's next, an expose of how Reagan personally sold guns to the contras?

He's a mental case... and Reagan was also.

Without knowing it, the ATF has confessed to supplying nearly all
illegal guns to the Mexican drug cartels on the broder.
If they sent only 1700 guns as they (the ATF) say they did to the
cartel, what is the number of guns annually sent to Mexico illegally
for there to be a 50% probability of recovering one at a crime scene.
The ANSWER, 2X 1700 or 3400. What number total is required for there
to be a 50% probability of recovering TWO at a crime scene, answer,
2400. In other words, the ATF is the primary supplier of guns to the
mexican cartels.
Now, if they actually did recover over 700 at crime scenes as they say
they did, it turns out that the ATF must be providing nearly ALL of
the illegal guns sent to Mexico. What does this imply? It implies
that someone in the Obama admin is making big money from the drug
trade from Mexico, no wonder they do not want to enforce border
security.