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the success of the bush tax cuts
On 08/06/2011 4:29 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says... On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote: On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wrote: Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time. Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion just servicing the debt created by the cuts. Obama has been in office over 2 years and he had a filibuster proof senate along with the house for several months. Why didn't the democrats repeal those cuts? In fact the democrats extended them when they expired. All Obama had to do was veto that bill. These are now the Obama tax cuts, along with a 14% cut in the FICA tax. He had doubled down on the Bush tax policy. It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an argument, since there are wide range of Dems). now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class You can say it all you want, but Pelosi, Reid, Obama, his cabinet, and the rest have said they would raise gas prices to "price us away from petrol fuels" and they have done exactly as they said they would.. Rumor has it Obama is itching for a national sales tax. In about the 8% range. Nothing like leftie-statism greed. If that were to happen, get a million protesters to DC throwing bricks and rocks until it is repealed. No jail is that big. As in Canada as we have discovered the income tax reduction incentive was temporary and it ends up being a double tax. First you pay income tax to earn it, then taxed again to spend it. But one good thing is it hits fleabaggers the worst. If you have and after tax $100K income, save lots, only spend $50K. For someone making $50K 8% hits twice as hard on the gross. Fleabags get played like a piano. Their own envy and greed turned against them. -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. |
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On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:10:46 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 08/06/2011 4:29 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... Rumor has it Obama is itching for a national sales tax. In about the 8% range. Nothing like leftie-statism greed. you guys got lots of rumors. hell i wouldnt be surprised if you thought the rumor was he was a martian |
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On 08/06/2011 3:38 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote: On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wrote: Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time. Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion just servicing the debt created by the cuts. Obama has been in office over 2 years and he had a filibuster proof senate along with the house for several months. Why didn't the democrats repeal those cuts? In fact the democrats extended them when they expired. All Obama had to do was veto that bill. These are now the Obama tax cuts, along with a 14% cut in the FICA tax. He had doubled down on the Bush tax policy. It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an argument, since there are wide range of Dems). now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class But the democrats beat the GOP to it, at $14.5 trillion, me thinks unless something very radical changes, count US DC bankrupt and in spiral debt. US will not do a Portugal or Greece, they will go more like Zimbabwe, hyperinflation devaluing wages and incomes. US Fed is bankrupt, its biggest credit can't pay the bills the only solution since 2008 is to create new inflationary debt dollars hand over fist, faster than toilet paper actually. Huge fraud on the people by its own government. Yep, DC is slowly screwing all Americans. That is why 74% of the Whitehouse staff got a 9% or better raise last year. Trouble really boils down to flea baggers like yourself supporting the very people that screw you. Too damned stupid to see the obvious. -- Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem. |
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On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:36:51 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 08/06/2011 3:38 PM, wf3h wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote: It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an argument, since there are wide range of Dems). now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class But the democrats beat the GOP to it, at $14.5 trillion, me thinks unless something very radical changes, count US DC bankrupt and in spiral debt. and this is more right wing bull**** 14.5 trillion where? how? oh. you just heard it somewhere. lemme know when you get some facts, OK? |
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says... On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:36:51 -0600, Canuck57 wrote: On 08/06/2011 3:38 PM, wf3h wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote: It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an argument, since there are wide range of Dems). now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class But the democrats beat the GOP to it, at $14.5 trillion, me thinks unless something very radical changes, count US DC bankrupt and in spiral debt. and this is more right wing bull**** 14.5 trillion where? how? oh. you just heard it somewhere. lemme know when you get some facts, OK? Open a newspaper... the debt is 14.5 T... Duh... -- Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life! |
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the success of the bush tax cuts
In article ,
says... On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wf3h wrote: Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time. Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion just servicing the debt created by the cuts. Obama has been in office over 2 years and he had a filibuster proof senate along with the house for several months. well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not filibuster proof but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault and i notice you said zip about the 30 year history of the rape of the US by your friends You keep spewing this crap, hoping somebody will be dumb enough to believe it. The fact is, for the last 40 years the democrats have either been in control of two or all three (house, senate, whitehouse) more than the republicans with times of all three when the republicans have not had that advantage at all. You really need to read up on some simple history before you blame the consistently minority party... Why didn't the democrats repeal those cuts? In fact the democrats extended them when they expired. All Obama had to do was veto that bill. as you yourself noted.... they couldnt. so again, it's the black guy's fault... -- Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life! |
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the success of the bush tax cuts
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:27:51 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wf3h wrote: well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not filibuster proof but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault and i notice you said zip about the 30 year history of the rape of the US by your friends You keep spewing this crap, hoping somebody will be dumb enough to believe it. gee. alli have is evidence. you? you have your reader's digest stories and myths The fact is, for the last 40 years the democrats have either been in control of two or all three (house, senate, whitehouse) more than the republicans with times of all three when the republicans have not had that advantage at all. You really need to read up on some simple history before you blame the consistently minority party... really? let's see...since 1980, the GOP controlled the presidency for 22 years. how's tthat working out for us? we doing OK? the fact is, the GOP hates america. and i suggest you read up on how often the GOP votes the party line vs the dems who split their loyalty. you're right wing which means you believe in fairy tales |
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the success of the bush tax cuts
In article ,
says... On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:27:51 -0400, I_am_Tosk wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wf3h wrote: well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not filibuster proof but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault and i notice you said zip about the 30 year history of the rape of the US by your friends You keep spewing this crap, hoping somebody will be dumb enough to believe it. gee. alli have is evidence. you? you have your reader's digest stories and myths The fact is, for the last 40 years the democrats have either been in control of two or all three (house, senate, whitehouse) more than the republicans with times of all three when the republicans have not had that advantage at all. You really need to read up on some simple history before you blame the consistently minority party... really? let's see...since 1980, the GOP controlled the presidency for 22 years. how's tthat working out for us? we doing OK? the fact is, the GOP hates america. and i suggest you read up on how often the GOP votes the party line vs the dems who split their loyalty. you're right wing which means you believe in fairy tales You are the one spewing lobsta boats... -- Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life! |
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