On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:29:02 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0
It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The
nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican
obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an
argument, since there are wide range of Dems).

now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in
their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of
business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class

You can say it all you want, but Pelosi, Reid, Obama, his cabinet, and
the rest have said they would raise gas prices to "price us away from
petrol fuels" and they have done exactly as they said they would..

you can say it all you want, but pawlenty, palin, santorum, etc. think
the rich need a LARGER tax cut

after they just got a trillion dollar bailout

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:27:51 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wf3h wrote:


well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not
filibuster proof

but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault

and i notice you said zip about the 30 year history of the rape of the
US by your friends

You keep spewing this crap, hoping somebody will be dumb enough to
believe it.

gee. alli have is evidence. you? you have your reader's digest stories
and myths

The fact is, for the last 40 years the democrats have either
been in control of two or all three (house, senate, whitehouse) more
than the republicans with times of all three when the republicans have
not had that advantage at all. You really need to read up on some simple
history before you blame the consistently minority party...

really? let's see...since 1980, the GOP controlled the presidency for
22 years.

how's tthat working out for us? we doing OK? the fact is, the GOP
hates america. and i suggest you read up on how often the GOP votes
the party line vs the dems who split their loyalty.

you're right wing which means you believe in fairy tales

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:29:02 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0
It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The
nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican
obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an
argument, since there are wide range of Dems).

now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in
their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of
business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class

You can say it all you want, but Pelosi, Reid, Obama, his cabinet, and
the rest have said they would raise gas prices to "price us away from
petrol fuels" and they have done exactly as they said they would..

you can say it all you want, but pawlenty, palin, santorum, etc. think
the rich need a LARGER tax cut

after they just got a trillion dollar bailout

Your speculation does not stack up to my facts... Pelosi said "we are a
do nothing congress", Obama said "we need to raise the price of fossil
fuels to price folks out of the market"... What you "think" republicans
want is just your own style of bull****.

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In article ,
says...

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:27:51 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wf3h wrote:


well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not
filibuster proof

but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault

and i notice you said zip about the 30 year history of the rape of the
US by your friends

You keep spewing this crap, hoping somebody will be dumb enough to
believe it.

gee. alli have is evidence. you? you have your reader's digest stories
and myths

The fact is, for the last 40 years the democrats have either
been in control of two or all three (house, senate, whitehouse) more
than the republicans with times of all three when the republicans have
not had that advantage at all. You really need to read up on some simple
history before you blame the consistently minority party...

really? let's see...since 1980, the GOP controlled the presidency for
22 years.

how's tthat working out for us? we doing OK? the fact is, the GOP
hates america. and i suggest you read up on how often the GOP votes
the party line vs the dems who split their loyalty.

you're right wing which means you believe in fairy tales

You are the one spewing lobsta boats...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

On 6/9/11 8:44 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:27:51 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wrote:


well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not
filibuster proof

but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault

and i notice you said zip about the 30 year history of the rape of the
US by your friends

You keep spewing this crap, hoping somebody will be dumb enough to
believe it.

gee. alli have is evidence. you? you have your reader's digest stories
and myths

The fact is, for the last 40 years the democrats have either
been in control of two or all three (house, senate, whitehouse) more
than the republicans with times of all three when the republicans have
not had that advantage at all. You really need to read up on some simple
history before you blame the consistently minority party...

really? let's see...since 1980, the GOP controlled the presidency for
22 years.

how's tthat working out for us? we doing OK? the fact is, the GOP
hates america. and i suggest you read up on how often the GOP votes
the party line vs the dems who split their loyalty.

you're right wing which means you believe in fairy tales

You are the one spewing lobsta boats...


Asshole, I sold the Lobster Boat, I now own a 42' Sport-fisherman. So
when you are out on your clapped out row boat, think of me in my a/c yacht.

--
Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where
personal insults are not allowed?

http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing

On 07/06/2011 6:18 PM, wf3h wrote:
while the ku klux clowns are blaming obama for bush's turning the
economy over to the chinese, let's look at the effects of 10 years of
bush tax cuts

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/...-bush-tax-cuts

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Tax collections have plunged to their lowest share of the economy in
60 years.

Between 2002 and 2007, employment increased by less than 1 percent
when the economy was supposed to be expanding. Employment growth
barely kept pace with population growth. Between the end of 2001, when
the country was in a recession, and the peak of the real estate
bubble, er, economic expansion in 2007, the US economy performed worse
than at any time since the end of World War II.

Median weekly earnings fell more than 2 percent between 2001 and 2007.
Meanwhile, people making over $3 million a year, who account for just
0.1 percent of taxpayers, got an average tax cut of $520,000, more
than 450 times what the average middle-income family received.

----------

and the right wing tells us how WONDERFUL this is...the rich are
getting richer...the middle class, worthless scum that they are, are
paying for it.

as god intended.

Do the math fleabagger. Oh wait, I forgot, fleabaggers are mentally
challenged so lets summarize it.

Now 0.1% is 1:1000. Only about 100M taxpayers. That means the claim is
100,000 people make over $3M/year. First, I seriously question that
number as being far too high, but lets go with it.

100,000 * .5M is only $50B so.... with a $1600B overspend, where do you
suggest the other $1550B comes from?

Fact of the mater is you fleabaggers are stupid envious greedy slugs.
And your not so benevolent leaders use your gullibility against you,
makes you good little manipulated sheep.

Now for the management principle here, taught in MBA and political
degrees: guide them to envy/hate others and they will hate you less.

Even school kids know this. But alas, you are a stupid fleabagger.
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Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

On 08/06/2011 4:29 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 23:32:11 -0700, wrote:

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wrote:

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Obama has been in office over 2 years and he had a filibuster proof
senate along with the house for several months. Why didn't the
democrats repeal those cuts? In fact the democrats extended them when
they expired. All Obama had to do was veto that bill.

These are now the Obama tax cuts, along with a 14% cut in the FICA
tax. He had doubled down on the Bush tax policy.


It's a bit more nuanced than that, but basically you're right. The
nuance includes both lack of Dem backbone and Republican
obstructionism (the "filibuster" proof senate isn't much of an
argument, since there are wide range of Dems).

now THAT is strue. as folks point out, the dems are far less united in
their hatred of the middle class than the GOP is. the 1st order of
business of the GOP is to destroy the middle class

You can say it all you want, but Pelosi, Reid, Obama, his cabinet, and
the rest have said they would raise gas prices to "price us away from
petrol fuels" and they have done exactly as they said they would..

Rumor has it Obama is itching for a national sales tax. In about the 8%
range. Nothing like leftie-statism greed.

If that were to happen, get a million protesters to DC throwing bricks
and rocks until it is repealed. No jail is that big.

As in Canada as we have discovered the income tax reduction incentive
was temporary and it ends up being a double tax. First you pay income
tax to earn it, then taxed again to spend it.

But one good thing is it hits fleabaggers the worst. If you have and
after tax $100K income, save lots, only spend $50K. For someone making
$50K 8% hits twice as hard on the gross.

Fleabags get played like a piano. Their own envy and greed turned
against them.
--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

On 08/06/2011 9:09 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 00:54:12 -0600,
wrote:

On 07/06/2011 6:18 PM, wf3h wrote:
while the ku klux clowns are blaming obama for bush's turning the
economy over to the chinese, let's look at the effects of 10 years of
bush tax cuts

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/...-bush-tax-cuts

Between 2001 and 2010, the Bush tax cuts added $2.6 trillion to the
public debt, 50 percent of the total debt accrued during that time.
Over the past 10 years, the country has spent more than $400 billion
just servicing the debt created by the cuts.

Tax collections have plunged to their lowest share of the economy in
60 years.

Between 2002 and 2007, employment increased by less than 1 percent
when the economy was supposed to be expanding. Employment growth
barely kept pace with population growth. Between the end of 2001, when
the country was in a recession, and the peak of the real estate
bubble, er, economic expansion in 2007, the US economy performed worse
than at any time since the end of World War II.

Median weekly earnings fell more than 2 percent between 2001 and 2007.
Meanwhile, people making over $3 million a year, who account for just
0.1 percent of taxpayers, got an average tax cut of $520,000, more
than 450 times what the average middle-income family received.

----------

and the right wing tells us how WONDERFUL this is...the rich are
getting richer...the middle class, worthless scum that they are, are
paying for it.

as god intended.

Where do you get this BS. Bush was not presiand dent in 2009 and
2010...unless of course he looked like Obama.

As for debt spend, Obama has already added much more debt than Bush did
in 8 years, problem is Obama isn't even through his first, and hopefully
last term.

Tax collections are low because producers are not making any money and
with 8 million lost jobs off of 2006 Congress starting, plus replacement
jobs are crap, well, you don't make it you don't get taxed on it.

Bet a lot of people would love to go back to the 2002 and 2006
employment type stats. You know, before democratic congress of 2006
botched it up.

There was no expansion in 2007, that is when the Congress was screwing
with interest rates and market liquidity dried up. Hey, why should I
lend money for nothing but a load of risk?

Funny, and the top 20% of earners pay 80% of the taxes. So do you mean
there is revenue in those 80% of the turnips?

I know were you got your stupid... suggestion: stop banging your head
on the wall so much.

Pay your taxes boy. Oh, forget, you are a broke loser. Just hind sucking.
--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

On 08/06/2011 3:41 PM, wf3h wrote:

and the right wing tells us how WONDERFUL this is...the rich are
getting richer...the middle class, worthless scum that they are, are
paying for it.

as god intended.

Where do you get this BS. Bush was not presiand dent in 2009 and
2010...unless of course he looked like Obama.

his last budget was 2009, it was 1.2 trillion in debt

and HIS tax cuts continue to fund the deficit. read the artice

His cuts are inconsequential to the debt. Trouble is you fleabaggers
should have paid more attention in math class. Your stupidity makes you
sheep.

As for debt spend, Obama has already added much more debt than Bush did
in 8 years, problem is Obama isn't even through his first, and hopefully
last term.

really? proof?

oh. none. but he's black...

So tell us fleabagger, is that the reason or the excuse? Are you
suggesting blacks don't pay their debts because they are black?

My, you are racist.

--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.

On 08/06/2011 6:56 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 18:27:51 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote:

In ,
says...

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:09:25 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jun 2011 20:18:04 -0400, wrote:


well no. the budget is the function of the house and it was not
filibuster proof

but, then, you simply say it's the black guy's fault

and i notice you said zip about the 30 year history of the rape of the
US by your friends

You keep spewing this crap, hoping somebody will be dumb enough to
believe it.

gee. alli have is evidence. you? you have your reader's digest stories
and myths

The fact is, for the last 40 years the democrats have either
been in control of two or all three (house, senate, whitehouse) more
than the republicans with times of all three when the republicans have
not had that advantage at all. You really need to read up on some simple
history before you blame the consistently minority party...

really? let's see...since 1980, the GOP controlled the presidency for
22 years.

how's tthat working out for us? we doing OK? the fact is, the GOP
hates america. and i suggest you read up on how often the GOP votes
the party line vs the dems who split their loyalty.

you're right wing which means you believe in fairy tales

Funny, your poor, envious, destitute, greed and stupid sheep.

Who really has the problem?
--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.