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On Wed, 04 May 2011 13:40:34 -0400, Harryk
wrote: wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:23:56 -0400, wrote: If that's your evaluation, give Bush an "F," because he stated several times he just wasn't that interested in running down Osama. I really think this was just to do what I have been saying we should be doing all along, lull OBL into a bit of complacency so we can catch up to him, Remember my squirrel hunting analogy. When you want to hunt squirrels you sit quietly by a tree and ignore them until they get comfortable enough to come out and run around. If you are looking for them you will seldom see them Note we are talking about wild squirrels, not the ones in your bird feeder. Even those would get pretty hard to find if you started shooting at them. Osama apparently moved to his palatial estate in 2005 or 2006, during the Bush Admin, when it became apparent the Bush Admin was not looking for him. Yeah, but Bush was going to "smoke him out." Maybe he was talking about Cheney? |
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On Thu, 05 May 2011 14:02:21 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 04 May 2011 12:45:32 -0700, wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:03:52 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 13:40:34 -0400, Harryk wrote: wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:23:56 -0400, wrote: If that's your evaluation, give Bush an "F," because he stated several times he just wasn't that interested in running down Osama. I really think this was just to do what I have been saying we should be doing all along, lull OBL into a bit of complacency so we can catch up to him, Remember my squirrel hunting analogy. When you want to hunt squirrels you sit quietly by a tree and ignore them until they get comfortable enough to come out and run around. If you are looking for them you will seldom see them Note we are talking about wild squirrels, not the ones in your bird feeder. Even those would get pretty hard to find if you started shooting at them. Osama apparently moved to his palatial estate in 2005 or 2006, during the Bush Admin, when it became apparent the Bush Admin was not looking for him. ... where we found him. That was my point. If he was still running around in the mountains or slipped off into Somalia or Yemen we may never have found him. Our best chance was if he settled down somewhere and let his guard down. Personally I think this would have worked out faster if we had not invaded Afghanistan. He may have become less guarded and made the critical mistake sooner. Wow... so basically you're claiming Bush's incompetence was really just brilliance hiding. Talk about delusional! I have said Bush's invasions were all mistakes but thanks for trying to put words in my mouth. You're claiming that because of Bush's incompetence, we got OBL. Thus, Bush must be brilliant and playing chess like Big Blue. |
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On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:10:34 -0400, John H
wrote: From yesterday's Washington Post: "U.S. analysts and operatives spent years figuring out the courier’s identity, senior administration officials said, concluding that he was a former protege of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-declared mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks who is being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The courier "had our constant attention," one official said. Detainees "identified this man as one of the few al-Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden, [and] indicated he might be living with or protecting bin Laden," the official said. But until four years ago, the United States was unable to track the courier down or uncover his real name. In 2009, U.S. officials narrowed down the region in Pakistan where the courier was working, senior administration officials said." 'Years' it says. "Four years ago..." Well, that dumps it in Bush's lap. http://tinyurl.com/6f65um6 Yesterday, Panetta admitted to Brian Williams that 'enhanced interrogation techniques', including waterboarding, provided intel which ultimately lead to the attack. http://tinyurl.com/6kz5423 I'll give Obama a 'C' for allowing the action to take place. He didn't do much else. Wow... a racist and a liar gives Obama a "C". Call CNN. |
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On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:10:34 -0400, John H
wrote: From yesterday's Washington Post: "U.S. analysts and operatives spent years figuring out the courier’s identity, senior administration officials said, concluding that he was a former protege of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-declared mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks who is being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The courier "had our constant attention," one official said. Detainees "identified this man as one of the few al-Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden, [and] indicated he might be living with or protecting bin Laden," the official said. But until four years ago, the United States was unable to track the courier down or uncover his real name. In 2009, U.S. officials narrowed down the region in Pakistan where the courier was working, senior administration officials said." 'Years' it says. "Four years ago..." Well, that dumps it in Bush's lap. http://tinyurl.com/6f65um6 Yesterday, Panetta admitted to Brian Williams that 'enhanced interrogation techniques', including waterboarding, provided intel which ultimately lead to the attack. http://tinyurl.com/6kz5423 I'll give Obama a 'C' for allowing the action to take place. He didn't do much else. oh for christ's sake and what would you have given him if he'd sat on the info and waited for more info you morons just hate obama so there's NOTHING he could do that would force you to admit he's more competent than your right wing ponies |
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In article ,
says... On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:10:34 -0400, John H wrote: From yesterday's Washington Post: "U.S. analysts and operatives spent years figuring out the courier?s identity, senior administration officials said, concluding that he was a former protege of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-declared mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks who is being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The courier "had our constant attention," one official said. Detainees "identified this man as one of the few al-Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden, [and] indicated he might be living with or protecting bin Laden," the official said. But until four years ago, the United States was unable to track the courier down or uncover his real name. In 2009, U.S. officials narrowed down the region in Pakistan where the courier was working, senior administration officials said." 'Years' it says. "Four years ago..." Well, that dumps it in Bush's lap. http://tinyurl.com/6f65um6 Yesterday, Panetta admitted to Brian Williams that 'enhanced interrogation techniques', including waterboarding, provided intel which ultimately lead to the attack. http://tinyurl.com/6kz5423 I'll give Obama a 'C' for allowing the action to take place. He didn't do much else. oh for christ's sake and what would you have given him if he'd sat on the info and waited for more info you morons just hate obama so there's NOTHING he could do that would force you to admit he's more competent than your right wing ponies If the shoe fits... |
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On 04/05/2011 6:50 PM, Gene wrote:
On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:10:34 -0400, John wrote: From yesterday's Washington Post: "U.S. analysts and operatives spent years figuring out the courier’s identity, senior administration officials said, concluding that he was a former protege of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-declared mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks who is being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The courier "had our constant attention," one official said. Detainees "identified this man as one of the few al-Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden, [and] indicated he might be living with or protecting bin Laden," the official said. But until four years ago, the United States was unable to track the courier down or uncover his real name. In 2009, U.S. officials narrowed down the region in Pakistan where the courier was working, senior administration officials said." 'Years' it says. "Four years ago..." Well, that dumps it in Bush's lap. http://tinyurl.com/6f65um6 Yesterday, Panetta admitted to Brian Williams that 'enhanced interrogation techniques', including waterboarding, provided intel which ultimately lead to the attack. http://tinyurl.com/6kz5423 I'll give Obama a 'C' for allowing the action to take place. He didn't do much else. You would benefit from a deeper pursuit of this than what Panetta said. He was wrong about releasing photos and he was wrong about reliable responses from people under torture. I don't know how we got so stupid, but we had a LOT more effective interrogation techniques when dealing with captured Japanese in WWII than we do now..... Funny, with todays cocktails (drugs) I would have thought the opposite unless years of apathy have set in. -- I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with fleabagger debt. Take a look at ANY country, more debt more problems. So why do we allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial? |
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