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Where should the credit go?
Canuck57 wrote:
On 04/05/2011 6:50 PM, Gene wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:10:34 -0400, John wrote: From yesterday's Washington Post: "U.S. analysts and operatives spent years figuring out the courier’s identity, senior administration officials said, concluding that he was a former protege of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-declared mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks who is being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The courier "had our constant attention," one official said. Detainees "identified this man as one of the few al-Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden, [and] indicated he might be living with or protecting bin Laden," the official said. But until four years ago, the United States was unable to track the courier down or uncover his real name. In 2009, U.S. officials narrowed down the region in Pakistan where the courier was working, senior administration officials said." 'Years' it says. "Four years ago..." Well, that dumps it in Bush's lap. http://tinyurl.com/6f65um6 Yesterday, Panetta admitted to Brian Williams that 'enhanced interrogation techniques', including waterboarding, provided intel which ultimately lead to the attack. http://tinyurl.com/6kz5423 I'll give Obama a 'C' for allowing the action to take place. He didn't do much else. You would benefit from a deeper pursuit of this than what Panetta said. He was wrong about releasing photos and he was wrong about reliable responses from people under torture. I don't know how we got so stupid, but we had a LOT more effective interrogation techniques when dealing with captured Japanese in WWII than we do now..... Funny, with todays cocktails (drugs) I would have thought the opposite unless years of apathy have set in. You know about as much about that as you know about paper and documents. In short, you know nothing. |
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On Wed, 04 May 2011 20:50:46 -0400, Gene
wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:10:34 -0400, John H wrote: From yesterday's Washington Post: "U.S. analysts and operatives spent years figuring out the courier’s identity, senior administration officials said, concluding that he was a former protege of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-declared mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks who is being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The courier "had our constant attention," one official said. Detainees "identified this man as one of the few al-Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden, [and] indicated he might be living with or protecting bin Laden," the official said. But until four years ago, the United States was unable to track the courier down or uncover his real name. In 2009, U.S. officials narrowed down the region in Pakistan where the courier was working, senior administration officials said." 'Years' it says. "Four years ago..." Well, that dumps it in Bush's lap. http://tinyurl.com/6f65um6 Yesterday, Panetta admitted to Brian Williams that 'enhanced interrogation techniques', including waterboarding, provided intel which ultimately lead to the attack. http://tinyurl.com/6kz5423 I'll give Obama a 'C' for allowing the action to take place. He didn't do much else. You would benefit from a deeper pursuit of this than what Panetta said. He was wrong about releasing photos and he was wrong about reliable responses from people under torture. I don't know how we got so stupid, but we had a LOT more effective interrogation techniques when dealing with captured Japanese in WWII than we do now..... JohnH continues to qualify himself as a partisan hack. When Bush did well, there wasn't a liberal here who wasn't willing to give credit. Obama revived a group that Bush had disbanded and those are the people who doggedly pursued this to the conclusion we've witnessed. Bush never had much patience, being a petulant little boy. |
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On Wed, 04 May 2011 20:50:46 -0400, Gene wrote:
On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:10:34 -0400, John H wrote: From yesterday's Washington Post: "U.S. analysts and operatives spent years figuring out the courier’s identity, senior administration officials said, concluding that he was a former protege of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-declared mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks who is being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The courier "had our constant attention," one official said. Detainees "identified this man as one of the few al-Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden, [and] indicated he might be living with or protecting bin Laden," the official said. But until four years ago, the United States was unable to track the courier down or uncover his real name. In 2009, U.S. officials narrowed down the region in Pakistan where the courier was working, senior administration officials said." 'Years' it says. "Four years ago..." Well, that dumps it in Bush's lap. http://tinyurl.com/6f65um6 Yesterday, Panetta admitted to Brian Williams that 'enhanced interrogation techniques', including waterboarding, provided intel which ultimately lead to the attack. http://tinyurl.com/6kz5423 I'll give Obama a 'C' for allowing the action to take place. He didn't do much else. You would benefit from a deeper pursuit of this than what Panetta said. He was wrong about releasing photos and he was wrong about reliable responses from people under torture. I don't know how we got so stupid, but we had a LOT more effective interrogation techniques when dealing with captured Japanese in WWII than we do now..... Release of the photos was his opinion. Are you saying he lied about the 'enhanced interrogation techniques'? Would Obama knowingly keep a liar in such a job? |
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On May 4, 8:50*pm, Gene wrote:
On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:10:34 -0400, John H wrote: From yesterday's Washington Post: "U.S. analysts and operatives spent years figuring out the courier’s identity, senior administration officials said, concluding that he was a former protege of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-declared mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks who is being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The courier "had our constant attention," one official said. Detainees "identified this man as one of the few al-Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden, [and] indicated he might be living with or protecting bin Laden," the official said. But until four years ago, the United States was unable to track the courier down or uncover his real name. In 2009, U.S. officials narrowed down the region in Pakistan where the courier was working, senior administration officials said." 'Years' it says. "Four years ago..." Well, that dumps it in Bush's lap. http://tinyurl.com/6f65um6 Yesterday, Panetta admitted to Brian Williams that 'enhanced interrogation techniques', including waterboarding, provided intel which ultimately lead to the attack. http://tinyurl.com/6kz5423 I'll give Obama a 'C' for allowing the action to take place. He didn't do much else. You would benefit from a deeper pursuit of this than what Panetta said. He was wrong about releasing photos and he was wrong about reliable responses from people under torture. I don't know how we got so stupid, but we had a LOT more effective interrogation techniques when dealing with captured Japanese in WWII than we do now..... -- Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." * - Unknown Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage *http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Even the liberal Washington Post is giving the credit where due. Notice that they also credit the interrogation techniques so down- played by the Obama bunch. Maybe the liberals will learn something after all. Sure hope so. http://tinyurl.com/3gklkaw |
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On Thu, 5 May 2011 04:32:19 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote: On May 4, 8:50*pm, Gene wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:10:34 -0400, John H wrote: From yesterday's Washington Post: "U.S. analysts and operatives spent years figuring out the courier’s identity, senior administration officials said, concluding that he was a former protege of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-declared mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks who is being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The courier "had our constant attention," one official said. Detainees "identified this man as one of the few al-Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden, [and] indicated he might be living with or protecting bin Laden," the official said. But until four years ago, the United States was unable to track the courier down or uncover his real name. In 2009, U.S. officials narrowed down the region in Pakistan where the courier was working, senior administration officials said." 'Years' it says. "Four years ago..." Well, that dumps it in Bush's lap. http://tinyurl.com/6f65um6 Yesterday, Panetta admitted to Brian Williams that 'enhanced interrogation techniques', including waterboarding, provided intel which ultimately lead to the attack. http://tinyurl.com/6kz5423 I'll give Obama a 'C' for allowing the action to take place. He didn't do much else. You would benefit from a deeper pursuit of this than what Panetta said. He was wrong about releasing photos and he was wrong about reliable responses from people under torture. I don't know how we got so stupid, but we had a LOT more effective interrogation techniques when dealing with captured Japanese in WWII than we do now..... -- Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." * - Unknown Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage *http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Even the liberal Washington Post is giving the credit where due. Notice that they also credit the interrogation techniques so down- played by the Obama bunch. Maybe the liberals will learn something after all. Sure hope so. http://tinyurl.com/3gklkaw If anything the water boarding perhaps confirmed other sources. All this nonsense about OBL as though his capture is going to solve all the problems of terrorism is astounding. Water boarding just brings us down to their level. The "actionable" intelligence that perhaps was gleaned from using it for sure had nothing to do with any immediate threat. |
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On Thu, 05 May 2011 17:26:43 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2011 13:44:12 -0700, wrote: On Thu, 05 May 2011 14:14:51 -0400, wrote: On Thu, 05 May 2011 09:18:52 -0700, wrote: All this nonsense about OBL as though his capture is going to solve all the problems of terrorism is astounding. I don't have to mine many of your posts to see you saying OBL was the key to stopping terrorism (trying to justify our crusade in Afghanistan). BS. I never said that. Show us. What's in it for me? You would just change the subject to blaming Bush for something. Which means... you can't. |
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On Thu, 5 May 2011 04:32:19 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote: On May 4, 8:50*pm, Gene wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:10:34 -0400, John H wrote: From yesterday's Washington Post: "U.S. analysts and operatives spent years figuring out the courier’s identity, senior administration officials said, concluding that he was a former protege of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-declared mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks who is being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The courier "had our constant attention," one official said. Detainees "identified this man as one of the few al-Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden, [and] indicated he might be living with or protecting bin Laden," the official said. But until four years ago, the United States was unable to track the courier down or uncover his real name. In 2009, U.S. officials narrowed down the region in Pakistan where the courier was working, senior administration officials said." 'Years' it says. "Four years ago..." Well, that dumps it in Bush's lap. http://tinyurl.com/6f65um6 Yesterday, Panetta admitted to Brian Williams that 'enhanced interrogation techniques', including waterboarding, provided intel which ultimately lead to the attack. http://tinyurl.com/6kz5423 I'll give Obama a 'C' for allowing the action to take place. He didn't do much else. You would benefit from a deeper pursuit of this than what Panetta said. He was wrong about releasing photos and he was wrong about reliable responses from people under torture. I don't know how we got so stupid, but we had a LOT more effective interrogation techniques when dealing with captured Japanese in WWII than we do now..... -- Forté Agent 6.00 Build 1186 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." * - Unknown Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage *http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Even the liberal Washington Post is giving the credit where due. Notice that they also credit the interrogation techniques so down- played by the Obama bunch. Maybe the liberals will learn something after all. Sure hope so. http://tinyurl.com/3gklkaw From a racist/liar like you? |
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