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On 04/05/2011 9:29 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says... On 04/05/2011 5:23 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: From yesterday's Washington Post: "U.S. analysts and operatives spent years figuring out the courier?s identity, senior administration officials said, concluding that he was a former protege of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-declared mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks who is being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The courier "had our constant attention," one official said. Detainees "identified this man as one of the few al-Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden, [and] indicated he might be living with or protecting bin Laden," the official said. But until four years ago, the United States was unable to track the courier down or uncover his real name. In 2009, U.S. officials narrowed down the region in Pakistan where the courier was working, senior administration officials said." 'Years' it says. "Four years ago..." Well, that dumps it in Bush's lap. http://tinyurl.com/6f65um6 Yesterday, Panetta admitted to Brian Williams that 'enhanced interrogation techniques', including waterboarding, provided intel which ultimately lead to the attack. http://tinyurl.com/6kz5423 I'll give Obama a 'C' for allowing the action to take place. He didn't do much else. If that's your evaluation, give Bush an "F," because he stated several times he just wasn't that interested in running down Osama. And you are overstating what the CIA director said. The facts remain: 1. Bush and his cohorts failed to catch Osama. 2. Cheney, Bush& Rumsfeld, et al, lied us into an unnecessary and really stupid war for purely political reasons. 3. Bush blew more than a trillion dollars on that stupid war. 4. Bush hurt our reputation around the world. It's really funny that some of the Bush apologists are now trying to claim partial credit for the killing of Osama. Sorry, Repubs...that don't won't hunt. Your team failed. And Obama agreed with Bush so what is your point? The reality is it became politically convenient to kill Osama. "Your team failed".. The moron really thinks Obama used a different "team" than Bush? Now that's rich... It was the same team, they just finally won. Hey, I am of the belief that both Bush AND Obama knew at various times where and when Osama was. But with the child murders by a NATO assassination attempt, tide turned on the assassination thing. Also, what if others knew Obama knew... Obama-2012 on the way, people want results out of this debt-suspender. Became politically the right time to actually get him. -- I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with fleabagger debt. Take a look at ANY country, more debt more problems. So why do we allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed? |
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On Wed, 04 May 2011 11:42:55 -0600, Canuck57
sent the following message On 04/05/2011 9:29 AM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In , says... On 04/05/2011 5:23 AM, Harryk wrote: John H wrote: From yesterday's Washington Post: "U.S. analysts and operatives spent years figuring out the courier?s identity, senior administration officials said, concluding that he was a former protege of Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the self-declared mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks who is being held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. The courier "had our constant attention," one official said. Detainees "identified this man as one of the few al-Qaeda couriers trusted by bin Laden, [and] indicated he might be living with or protecting bin Laden," the official said. But until four years ago, the United States was unable to track the courier down or uncover his real name. In 2009, U.S. officials narrowed down the region in Pakistan where the courier was working, senior administration officials said." 'Years' it says. "Four years ago..." Well, that dumps it in Bush's lap. http://tinyurl.com/6f65um6 Yesterday, Panetta admitted to Brian Williams that 'enhanced interrogation techniques', including waterboarding, provided intel which ultimately lead to the attack. http://tinyurl.com/6kz5423 I'll give Obama a 'C' for allowing the action to take place. He didn't do much else. If that's your evaluation, give Bush an "F," because he stated several times he just wasn't that interested in running down Osama. And you are overstating what the CIA director said. The facts remain: 1. Bush and his cohorts failed to catch Osama. 2. Cheney, Bush& Rumsfeld, et al, lied us into an unnecessary and really stupid war for purely political reasons. 3. Bush blew more than a trillion dollars on that stupid war. 4. Bush hurt our reputation around the world. It's really funny that some of the Bush apologists are now trying to claim partial credit for the killing of Osama. Sorry, Repubs...that don't won't hunt. Your team failed. And Obama agreed with Bush so what is your point? The reality is it became politically convenient to kill Osama. "Your team failed".. The moron really thinks Obama used a different "team" than Bush? Now that's rich... It was the same team, they just finally won. Hey, I am of the belief that both Bush AND Obama knew at various times where and when Osama was. But with the child murders by a NATO assassination attempt, tide turned on the assassination thing. Also, what if others knew Obama knew... Obama-2012 on the way, people want results out of this debt-suspender. Became politically the right time to actually get him. -- I can assure you that the road to prosperity is not paved with fleabagger debt. Take a look at ANY country, more debt more problems. So why do we allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed? Politically the right time. Thats right. |
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On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:13:20 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 04 May 2011 10:55:14 -0700, wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 12:19:08 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 09:14:47 -0600, Canuck57 wrote: And Obama agreed with Bush so what is your point? The reality is it became politically convenient to kill Osama. -- I think Obama went as quickly as he could. They did not want to **** this up so they built a mock up of the compound and trained for months to get it right., I really think the populace will have forgotten about this by 3q12 anyway. There will be dozens of things that went through the news cycle by then. The election is still going to come down to mundane things like gas prices, unemployment and I bet inflation will have showed it's ugly head by then. Obama's biggest fear is going to be the recurrence of the terms "malaise" and "stagflation". Really? His biggest fear? There's no indication of either of those things. There is no indication of inflation??? Do you go to the grocery store or a gas station? Have you paid any "fuel surcharges" lately? The falling dollar is going to make that a lot worse since we import most of our hard goods these days. As for malaise, have you read any of Bob's posts. That is one depressed man. Maybe he read the Daily Beast article about the worst 10 college degrees you can seek, based on what you can expect to earn. "Chemistry" is #9. It was in Newsweek this week (the one with the royals on the cover) Aside from gas prices, nothing much is happening, and even those are likely temporary. Of course, for you, the sky is continually falling. I hope you haven't made any plans for after May 21st. Now you're claiming that because one person complains, therefore, there is a general malaise. Whatever. |
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On Thu, 05 May 2011 14:01:16 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 04 May 2011 12:44:29 -0700, wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:13:20 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 10:55:14 -0700, wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 12:19:08 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 09:14:47 -0600, Canuck57 wrote: And Obama agreed with Bush so what is your point? The reality is it became politically convenient to kill Osama. -- I think Obama went as quickly as he could. They did not want to **** this up so they built a mock up of the compound and trained for months to get it right., I really think the populace will have forgotten about this by 3q12 anyway. There will be dozens of things that went through the news cycle by then. The election is still going to come down to mundane things like gas prices, unemployment and I bet inflation will have showed it's ugly head by then. Obama's biggest fear is going to be the recurrence of the terms "malaise" and "stagflation". Really? His biggest fear? There's no indication of either of those things. There is no indication of inflation??? Do you go to the grocery store or a gas station? Have you paid any "fuel surcharges" lately? The falling dollar is going to make that a lot worse since we import most of our hard goods these days. As for malaise, have you read any of Bob's posts. That is one depressed man. Maybe he read the Daily Beast article about the worst 10 college degrees you can seek, based on what you can expect to earn. "Chemistry" is #9. It was in Newsweek this week (the one with the royals on the cover) Aside from gas prices, nothing much is happening, and even those are likely temporary. Of course, for you, the sky is continually falling. I hope you haven't made any plans for after May 21st. Now you're claiming that because one person complains, therefore, there is a general malaise. Whatever. I guess your maid does all the shopping for you. Maybe you should go to the store and compare prices to what they were a year or so ago. Have you looked at the spot price of corn lately. That is not just corn on the cob, corn is in just about everything you eat. (animal feed, starch or high fructose corn syrup) Of course the ethanol fuel program is part of that increase but corn flakes are still $4 a box. . I guess you've got to worry about something, so it might as well be the imaginary inflation rather than the imaginary financial meltdown scheduled for tomorrow or the imaginary end of the world scheduled for the 21st. |
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On Wed, 04 May 2011 09:23:22 -0700, wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 11:29:32 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 07:23:56 -0400, wrote: If that's your evaluation, give Bush an "F," because he stated several times he just wasn't that interested in running down Osama. I really think this was just to do what I have been saying we should be doing all along, lull OBL into a bit of complacency so we can catch up to him, Remember my squirrel hunting analogy. When you want to hunt squirrels you sit quietly by a tree and ignore them until they get comfortable enough to come out and run around. If you are looking for them you will seldom see them Note we are talking about wild squirrels, not the ones in your bird feeder. Even those would get pretty hard to find if you started shooting at them. Wow... you just can't help yourself in defending Bush can you. He screwed up this economy, he invaded a country that didn't attack us and lied about it to the American people, he gutted social programs here, and he ran our credibility into the ground. But all that's ok with you. Is there anything you don't know about or have predicted? You can go back and read what I predicted. Nostra-Fretwell, I presume? |
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