On Fri, 06 May 2011 13:59:57 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 15:30:52 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 17:22:00 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 13:40:24 -0700, wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:05:40 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 15:00:49 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

John H wrote:
On Thu, 05 May 2011 14:04:53 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:57:05 -0400,
wrote:

wrote:
I am happy that Obama has repealed the flawed Carter policy of not
targeting people for assassination.
Maybe some day we can return to the Eisenhower policy of shaping civil
war outcomes using covert means and without sending in a 150,000
troops.

It was certainly clear that we could have taken OBL alive but they
made the right choice and blew his head off on site.

Plume, before you protest that, are you really saying a SEAL could
not have wrestled a sickly, 54 year old, unarmed man to the ground if
he wanted to? They saw him, they shot him end of story.

I prefer to deal with what we know...or were told. We were told Osama
was given an opportunity to surrender and live or go out in a blaze of
what he probably assumed was glory. We were told he chose the latter.

That's no different than the choices the police in this country offer
dangerous fugitives who they have cornered or who respond by opening
fire. It usually is referred to as "Death by Cop."

Assuming that was the case, I don't have a problem with the outcome. A
trial would have been long and messy, but it is our way to try criminals
and prove their guilt in a court of law. To dispose of criminals
otherwise brings us down to the level of the terrorists.
The reports coming back from the SEALs is that there was only one
armed man there, who they shot right away. It is clear they wanted to
kill OBL. I think that was a wise choice.

Very. But it was not in keeping with the liberal interpretation of 'American values'.

The "conservative interpretation" of American values is to shoot, no
matter what? That's the sort of stupidity that got us into Iraq.

Mind you, I don't oppose the shooting of bin Laden, assuming he was
given a chance to surrender alive and turned it down.

I doubt there was much of an offer to surrender. They certainly could
have taken him alive if that was what the mission was. If nothing
else they could have knee capped him. These guys can hit whatever they
shoot at inside of a room

Sure. You know everything about everything. We get it.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...en-raid-emerge

Turn on the news

Interesting how the story keep changing. I wonder what the Oracle will
say next.


I guess your silence indicates you finally did turn on the news and
stopped quoting old stories you googled up. I assume news comes 3
hours later out there on the left coast.

I guess you're unable to scroll to the next post. I wonder if it's a
genetic defect for all oracles or just you.

On Fri, 06 May 2011 15:08:19 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 11:46:04 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 13:59:57 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 15:30:52 -0700, wrote:


http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...en-raid-emerge

Turn on the news

Interesting how the story keep changing. I wonder what the Oracle will
say next.


I guess your silence indicates you finally did turn on the news and
stopped quoting old stories you googled up. I assume news comes 3
hours later out there on the left coast.

I guess you're unable to scroll to the next post. I wonder if it's a
genetic defect for all oracles or just you.


Do you mean the post where you talked about the 40 minute fire fight?

I am not an oracle, I just watch the news and see what the White House
is saying right now.

That was what was reported. Of course, feel free to deny that. Given
that you have nothing better to do, I suggest watching the news 24/7
and reporting to the newsgroup on a 10-minute schedule.

On Fri, 06 May 2011 15:22:17 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 12:13:16 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 15:08:19 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 11:46:04 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 13:59:57 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 05 May 2011 15:30:52 -0700, wrote:


http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...en-raid-emerge

Turn on the news

Interesting how the story keep changing. I wonder what the Oracle will
say next.


I guess your silence indicates you finally did turn on the news and
stopped quoting old stories you googled up. I assume news comes 3
hours later out there on the left coast.

I guess you're unable to scroll to the next post. I wonder if it's a
genetic defect for all oracles or just you.


Do you mean the post where you talked about the 40 minute fire fight?

I am not an oracle, I just watch the news and see what the White House
is saying right now.

That was what was reported. Of course, feel free to deny that. Given
that you have nothing better to do, I suggest watching the news 24/7
and reporting to the newsgroup on a 10-minute schedule.

Why bother, you would just say I was wrong.

I do know one thing, I went back to look at your old posts (in
reference to the OBL thing) and I got disgusted about 200 in, because
about 60-70% of them are simply one line insults. I had no interest in
looking at 1200 more.
It is certainly not fitting of a person who spends so much time
talking about your superior education. I bet your English professor
would be embarrassed.

Interesting that you care what I say about morons. How many were
one-line insults directed at you?

I'm still waiting for you to identify the post where I claimed
catching/killing OBL would solve the terrorist problem.

On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.


Wayne, you really ought to try harder. Ms. 'Plume is not my parrot or
anyone else's. We've never even exchanged an email. She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

On Fri, 06 May 2011 18:37:42 -0400, Harryk
wrote:

She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

Not at all. I enjoy conversing with intelligent, thoughtful people
who do not have a knee jerk reaction to every situation.

Unfortunately that excludes you and your parrot.

Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 06 May 2011 18:37:42 -0400,
wrote:

She's bright,
though, and I'll bet that scares a righty like you.

Not at all. I enjoy conversing with intelligent, thoughtful people
who do not have a knee jerk reaction to every situation.

Unfortunately that excludes you and your parrot.


That's funny, since you have the typical right-wing knee jerk reaction
to just about every criticism of the so-called "free market system" and
corporatism.

On Fri, 06 May 2011 11:56:34 -0400, wrote:

I'm sure they got more from the computers they took than anything OBL
would tell them, no matter how much water they splashed in his face.

Probably so but he got off easily compared to people in the World
Trade Center who had to make a decision between jumping or burning.

One of those people was my old IBM sales rep, a beautiful charming
woman with young children.

On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 13:09:01 -0700, wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 15:22:17 -0400, wrote:


Why bother, you would just say I was wrong.

I do know one thing, I went back to look at your old posts (in
reference to the OBL thing) and I got disgusted about 200 in, because
about 60-70% of them are simply one line insults. I had no interest in
looking at 1200 more.
It is certainly not fitting of a person who spends so much time
talking about your superior education. I bet your English professor
would be embarrassed.

Interesting that you care what I say about morons. How many were
one-line insults directed at you?

More than a few, including a couple in this thread.

Indeed... did I start any of them?

I'm still waiting for you to identify the post where I claimed
catching/killing OBL would solve the terrorist problem.

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

Like I said, prove it, and I'll own it.

On Fri, 06 May 2011 17:47:59 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:29 -0400, wrote:

If I decide I am willing to look through the 38000 posts in my cache
again I might come up with it. I do remember a long thread about why
it was so important that we continue the crusade in Afghanistan where
you were saying OBL was the key to cracking Al Qaeda and I tried to
explain there are a dozen guys ready to take his place, most not even
in that area.

In my humble opinion (and experience), debating with Harry's parrot is
a total waste of time and effort unless you like to hear the frantic
beating of wings while ducking bird sh*t.

You're a cluck! LOL