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On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:48:19 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 18:51:49 -0700, wrote: That's not clear that it's done. SS will turn around in the next few years as employment and the economy improve. Not with the Obama payroll tax cut. It can never recover from that, even if we had 2006 employment levels. Oh come on. That's so nonsensical to not past the sniff test. OK prove it. Tell us the number of employees that rate would add, the lesser amount you get with a 14% tax cut, then factor in the extra boomers who have entered the SS benefit program since 2006 and get back to me. The projections SSA gave were based on people waiting until full retirement age (66 right now) and I do not know ONE person who waited. I am the only person I know who didn't take SS on their 62d birthday. I waited until I was 64. If you run the spread sheet, taking at 62 breaks even at age 78 or so for most people. By waiting until 64, I pushed that out to 84 or so. Of course that assumes you spend the money. I am investing it. That is a win-win. I get a better return and if I really need it, I have it. You said "never." You're making stuff up. You're happy to believe "projections" that go out dozens of years, but you're unwilling to look at something that would happen within weeks. So much for your "fact" based arguments. |
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In article ,
says... wrote: The projections SSA gave were based on people waiting until full retirement age (66 right now) and I do not know ONE person who waited. I am the only person I know who didn't take SS on their 62d birthday. I waited until I was 64. I'm just past "full retirement age," and i haven't put in for Social Security or Medicare. I'm still working pretty close to full-time, and even though I am just one person, I feel like my not taking money out contributes, even if just a little bit, to a Social Security/Medicare solution. Besides, the health care coverage I buy from my local union is better than Medicare. There's only a small annual deductible, no donut hole for drugs, and a $10 copay and, best of all, no hassles from providers. Bull****. |
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A_boaterer wrote:
In , says... wrote: The projections SSA gave were based on people waiting until full retirement age (66 right now) and I do not know ONE person who waited. I am the only person I know who didn't take SS on their 62d birthday. I waited until I was 64. I'm just past "full retirement age," and i haven't put in for Social Security or Medicare. I'm still working pretty close to full-time, and even though I am just one person, I feel like my not taking money out contributes, even if just a little bit, to a Social Security/Medicare solution. Besides, the health care coverage I buy from my local union is better than Medicare. There's only a small annual deductible, no donut hole for drugs, and a $10 copay and, best of all, no hassles from providers. Bull****. You're right! The chronic liar said he wasn't a union member. |
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Harryk wrote:
wrote: The projections SSA gave were based on people waiting until full retirement age (66 right now) and I do not know ONE person who waited. I am the only person I know who didn't take SS on their 62d birthday. I waited until I was 64. I'm just past "full retirement age," and i haven't put in for Social Security or Medicare. I'm still working pretty close to full-time, and even though I am just one person, I feel like my not taking money out contributes, even if just a little bit, to a Social Security/Medicare solution. Besides, the health care coverage I buy from my local union is better than Medicare. There's only a small annual deductible, no donut hole for drugs, and a $10 copay and, best of all, no hassles from providers. What happened to all of that bull**** about hiring more people, no cost health care, etc.....? Now you are a one man operation? |
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On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:31:25 -0400, wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 13:25:45 -0400, wrote: wrote: The projections SSA gave were based on people waiting until full retirement age (66 right now) and I do not know ONE person who waited. I am the only person I know who didn't take SS on their 62d birthday. I waited until I was 64. I'm just past "full retirement age," and i haven't put in for Social Security or Medicare. I'm still working pretty close to full-time, and even though I am just one person, I feel like my not taking money out contributes, even if just a little bit, to a Social Security/Medicare solution. Besides, the health care coverage I buy from my local union is better than Medicare. There's only a small annual deductible, no donut hole for drugs, and a $10 copay and, best of all, no hassles from providers. Whatever works for you. Most people do not really have a choice on Medicare. Their insurance will stop at age 65. Therefore, according to the Right Wing NUTS, eliminate it! That makes sense. Easy enough to fix medicare. First, remove the cap on contributions. Raise the rate on contributions if you are wealthy. Do more and more stringent RAC audits. Set up better guidelines for treatment. Do more criminal prosecutions for provider fraud. Require tough negotiations with pharmaceutical companies. |
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