On Oct 13, 1:09*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message


http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...d/articles/201...

"Meanwhile, 30 major corporations are still able to offer low-cost
health insurance to their employees only because they have received
one-year waivers of the new rules from the Department of Health and
Human Services. What happens when those waivers expire is anybody�s
guess. But this much is clear: If the law with its expensive mandates
remains on the books, millions of Americans are going to lose the
health care plans they have now � plans the president repeatedly
promised they could keep."

It's an opinion piece. Cite some facts.

Why? You didn't cite a single article or "factoid", you just
presented *your* opinion. My article, if you had actually read it,
was not an opinion piece but offered solid facts of people losing
their insurance because of obamacare. As they point out if you are
required to insure people and provide expanded benefits that weren't
there before, that extra money will have to come from somewhere, or
the insurance company will simply close up shop. Then they cite
examples.

Insurance costs are being driven up by obamacare. Insurance companies
are shutting down, leaving people uninsured because of obamacare. How
much of that do you like?

On Oct 13, 1:25*pm, Jack wrote:
On Oct 13, 1:09*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...d/articles/201....

"Meanwhile, 30 major corporations are still able to offer low-cost
health insurance to their employees only because they have received
one-year waivers of the new rules from the Department of Health and
Human Services. What happens when those waivers expire is anybody�s
guess. But this much is clear: If the law with its expensive mandates
remains on the books, millions of Americans are going to lose the
health care plans they have now � plans the president repeatedly
promised they could keep."

It's an opinion piece. Cite some facts.

Why? *You didn't cite a single article or "factoid", you just
presented *your* opinion. *My article, if you had actually read it,
was not an opinion piece but offered solid facts of people losing
their insurance because of obamacare. *As they point out if you are
required to insure people and provide expanded benefits that weren't
there before, that extra money will have to come from somewhere, or
the insurance company will simply close up shop. *Then they cite
examples.

Insurance costs are being driven up by obamacare. *Insurance companies
are shutting down, leaving people uninsured because of obamacare. *How
much of that do you like?

They won't accept facts, they just keep spouting what Olbermann told
them to say. I noted two young adults who lost their insurance because
their parents couldn't afford the "new" twenty something insurance
costs on their insurance. This is fact, I know these guys and they
have both stopped riding because of it. But again, real facts don't
matter to the intellectually impaired...

On 10/13/10 1:53 PM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:

They won't accept facts, they just keep spouting what Olbermann told
them to say. I noted two young adults who lost their insurance because
their parents couldn't afford the "new" twenty something insurance
costs on their insurance. This is fact, I know these guys and they
have both stopped riding because of it. But again, real facts don't
matter to the intellectually impaired...


You're a liar. Why would anyone believe anything you post? You can't
even be honest on your web services website.

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I'm not a warlock . . . I'm you!

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message
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On Oct 13, 1:25 pm, Jack wrote:
On Oct 13, 1:09 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...d/articles/201...

"Meanwhile, 30 major corporations are still able to offer low-cost
health insurance to their employees only because they have received
one-year waivers of the new rules from the Department of Health and
Human Services. What happens when those waivers expire is anybody�s
guess. But this much is clear: If the law with its expensive mandates
remains on the books, millions of Americans are going to lose the
health care plans they have now � plans the president repeatedly
promised they could keep."

It's an opinion piece. Cite some facts.

Why? You didn't cite a single article or "factoid", you just
presented *your* opinion. My article, if you had actually read it,
was not an opinion piece but offered solid facts of people losing
their insurance because of obamacare. As they point out if you are
required to insure people and provide expanded benefits that weren't
there before, that extra money will have to come from somewhere, or
the insurance company will simply close up shop. Then they cite
examples.

Insurance costs are being driven up by obamacare. Insurance companies
are shutting down, leaving people uninsured because of obamacare. How
much of that do you like?

They won't accept facts, they just keep spouting what Olbermann told
them to say. I noted two young adults who lost their insurance because
their parents couldn't afford the "new" twenty something insurance
costs on their insurance. This is fact, I know these guys and they
have both stopped riding because of it. But again, real facts don't
matter to the intellectually impaired...

So, show us some facts! I'm waiting to be convinced. Opinions aren't facts.

"Jack" wrote in message
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On Oct 13, 1:09 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message


http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...d/articles/201...

"Meanwhile, 30 major corporations are still able to offer low-cost
health insurance to their employees only because they have received
one-year waivers of the new rules from the Department of Health and
Human Services. What happens when those waivers expire is anybody�s
guess. But this much is clear: If the law with its expensive mandates
remains on the books, millions of Americans are going to lose the
health care plans they have now � plans the president repeatedly
promised they could keep."

It's an opinion piece. Cite some facts.

Why? You didn't cite a single article or "factoid", you just
presented *your* opinion. My article, if you had actually read it,
was not an opinion piece but offered solid facts of people losing
their insurance because of obamacare. As they point out if you are
required to insure people and provide expanded benefits that weren't
there before, that extra money will have to come from somewhere, or
the insurance company will simply close up shop. Then they cite
examples.

Insurance costs are being driven up by obamacare. Insurance companies
are shutting down, leaving people uninsured because of obamacare. How
much of that do you like?


I have an opinion, the author had an opinion, and you have an opinion. I've
cited facts many times that support the proposition that the insurance
reform was flawed but better than what was previously in place.

If your opinion is that the costs will go up, that's fine, but it's not a
fact that has been actually verified. It's an opinion.

How much do I like of an item that isn't actually a fact is sort of a
non-question.

On Oct 13, 3:09*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

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On Oct 13, 1:09 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ed...d/articles/201....

"Meanwhile, 30 major corporations are still able to offer low-cost
health insurance to their employees only because they have received
one-year waivers of the new rules from the Department of Health and
Human Services. What happens when those waivers expire is anybody s
guess. But this much is clear: If the law with its expensive mandates
remains on the books, millions of Americans are going to lose the
health care plans they have now plans the president repeatedly
promised they could keep."

It's an opinion piece. Cite some facts.

Why? *You didn't cite a single article or "factoid", you just
presented *your* opinion. *My article, if you had actually read it,
was not an opinion piece but offered solid facts of people losing
their insurance because of obamacare. *As they point out if you are
required to insure people and provide expanded benefits that weren't
there before, that extra money will have to come from somewhere, or
the insurance company will simply close up shop. *Then they cite
examples.

Insurance costs are being driven up by obamacare. *Insurance companies
are shutting down, leaving people uninsured because of obamacare. *How
much of that do you like?

I have an opinion, the author had an opinion, and you have an opinion. I've
cited facts many times that support the proposition that the insurance
reform was flawed but better than what was previously in place.

If your opinion is that the costs will go up, that's fine, but it's not a
fact that has been actually verified. It's an opinion.

It's a fact. Mine has gone up, and the insurance company verified it
was because of obamacare. Fact. Other company's policies have been
verified to have gone up for the same reason. Reported here and in
the news. Still other companies are just pulling out because of the
increased costs. Reported in my cite and in the news.

Look at McDonalds...there's a fact for you.

Your opinions still have no cites, and are not facts. If it's the
best you can do, we must agree to disagree.

Jack wrote:


Look at McDonalds...there's a fact for you.


And what "facts" would those be?
Foxfacts?

Jim - Just the facts m'aam, just the facts.

On 10/13/10 4:20 PM, Jim wrote:
Jack wrote:


Look at McDonalds...there's a fact for you.


And what "facts" would those be?
Foxfacts?

Jim - Just the facts m'aam, just the facts.


The health care plan Mickey D's offers its low hourly wage employees is
little more than a joke. These are the very people who, if not covered
under a parental plan, should be able to participate in a decent
"public" plan.

---

I'm not a warlock . . . I'm you!

In article ,
says...

On 10/13/10 4:20 PM, Jim wrote:
Jack wrote:


Look at McDonalds...there's a fact for you.


And what "facts" would those be?
Foxfacts?

Jim - Just the facts m'aam, just the facts.


The health care plan Mickey D's offers its low hourly wage employees is
little more than a joke. These are the very people who, if not covered
under a parental plan, should be able to participate in a decent
"public" plan.

---

I'm not a warlock . . . I'm you!

Spoofer alert! I've stated here that I have many employees and I give
them to best healthcare money can buy.

On Oct 13, 4:20*pm, Jim wrote:
Jack wrote:

Look at McDonalds...there's a fact for you.

And what "facts" would those be?
Foxfacts?

Jim - Just the facts m'aam, just the facts.

I don't watch Fox.

http://www.latimes.com/sns-mcdonalds...,7605831.story

You must be thinking of the initial knee-jerk report that they may
discontinue their coverage of employees. Don't believe that came from
Fox.

Jack - Don't like knee-jerk "Must be Fox" comments.