bpuharic wrote:
turns out incomes of most americans are dropping. but not the rich,
thank god!! they're doing just fine.

the american dream is alive. while the middle class continues to get
hammered, the rich prove that america is becoming a plutocracy...all
the while rush and the right wing tell us it isn't


http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cha...-rich-and-poor

Thank you!

On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 18:54:39 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 06:07:34 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 01:10:34 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 20:59:37 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


Well, he's started to make a difference compared to Bush's laissez faire
capitalistic approach.


How is that? The bailout went to the same fat cats Bush was helping.


you right wingers just dont get it, do yo? you LOVED the way 1929
treated the middle class, and want that repeated. that's what would
have happened if we didnt bail out the banks.


Why do you suddenly trust the same wall street bankers you have been
trashing for months?

?? where did i say i trust them? they simply left us no choice. look
at what happened to the markets after lehman bros collapsed.

that doesnt mean we have to CONTINUE to trust them like the right wing
says.


BUT...NDP is right...he's re-regulated proprietary trading and
tightened capital requirements on banks...

Financial regulation left the big banks in charge and did very little
to affect the things that caused the melt down.

nope. he's also created 'death panels' for banks to kill them if they
start to get in trouble

"Too big to fail" is still there.

too sophisticated for you, it seems


The "insurance reform" is only going to make big pharma, the hospital
conglomerates and the insurance companies richer.

gee i guess that's why 'politico' is reporting lobbyists for the
insurance companies are giving huge sums to the GOP

They are throwing money at the people they think will take over the
congress. Why bribe a loser?

kind of tells you who ****ed them off, doesn't it?

and it aint the GOP

On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 20:42:49 -0400, LG wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
turns out incomes of most americans are dropping. but not the rich,
thank god!! they're doing just fine.

the american dream is alive. while the middle class continues to get
hammered, the rich prove that america is becoming a plutocracy...all
the while rush and the right wing tell us it isn't


http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cha...-rich-and-poor

Thank you!

any time. always glad to tell the truth about the right

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 06:44:26 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

On 10/4/10 6:40 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


I do know two young 18-24 year olds who have indicated that they have
either lost in one case, or will be losing in another their coverage
because of changes to their parents health care plans, because of the
new laws.

Bull****.


The woman my wife works with wanted to put her 20 something kid on her
2011 policy and it is $200 extra a month,
Putting me on my wife's policy is $500 a month

Yeah, well apparently the talking points didn't cover that part for plum
and the rest. They seem to think the new coverage is free

--
OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few
seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little
girl...

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:35:42 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

According to you. Kids are allowed to stay on the parent policies until 26.
Yes, there are always exceptions.

It is true that your 2o something can stay on the policy but it is
extra money. ($200 at Aetna)

How much you want to bet she uses the exact same talking point within a
week, even though several of us have noted how much extra it will cost
folks... Seems she forgot the bill was written by those who Obama and
the DNC sold the privilege to. The whole thing was a huge payoff, let
them write their own bill, same as the banks, the auto unions, etc,
etc... It's a bought and paid for administration..

--
OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few
seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little
girl...

On Oct 5, 1:27*am, wrote:
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 16:39:25 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:35:42 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

According to you. Kids are allowed to stay on the parent policies until
26.
Yes, there are always exceptions.

It is true that your 2o something can stay on the policy but it is
extra money. ($200 at Aetna)

As from a previous response... Did she suppose it would be free?

$2400 a year is far from free though and that is after tax money so it
is more like $2700. If your kid doesn't have a serious disease, it is
a horrible deal.

Well, not to beat a dead horse but of course it's a bad deal for us
and a great deal for those who wrote the bill..

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:11:44 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

We need
to get rid of the health insurance industry as it exists in this country.

I think health insurance should be something like $3000 deductible
(what I am carrying now). If that was true the cost would be
reasonable and the patient would argue about abusive bills for silly
stuff.
Medical procedures got expensive because they were "free". Nobody
cared that the doctor was charging you $200 for tetanus shot because
the insurance picked it up.

So, someone who works a minimum wage job is suppose to have $3K sitting
around for a doctor?

Please don't blame doctors. The insurance companies bleed them dry with
needless paperwork, all the while delaying claims and obstructing needed
care. Get rid of the insurance companies, and we might have a shot at
decent, affordable health care.

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 06:44:26 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

On 10/4/10 6:40 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


I do know two young 18-24 year olds who have indicated that they have
either lost in one case, or will be losing in another their coverage
because of changes to their parents health care plans, because of the
new laws.

Bull****.


The woman my wife works with wanted to put her 20 something kid on her
2011 policy and it is $200 extra a month,
Putting me on my wife's policy is $500 a month

Yeah, well apparently the talking points didn't cover that part for plum
and the rest. They seem to think the new coverage is free

--
OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few
seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little
girl...

We seem to understand quite well that you're an idiot.

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 16:39:25 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:35:42 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

According to you. Kids are allowed to stay on the parent policies until
26.
Yes, there are always exceptions.

It is true that your 2o something can stay on the policy but it is
extra money. ($200 at Aetna)

As from a previous response... Did she suppose it would be free?


$2400 a year is far from free though and that is after tax money so it
is more like $2700. If your kid doesn't have a serious disease, it is
a horrible deal.

I have no idea what the actual cost of the policy is, but I do know that
nobody has a contract with God. Feel free to not have homeowner's insurance,
fire insurance, flood insurance, etc.

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message
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On Oct 5, 1:27 am, wrote:
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 16:39:25 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:35:42 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

According to you. Kids are allowed to stay on the parent policies
until
26.
Yes, there are always exceptions.

It is true that your 2o something can stay on the policy but it is
extra money. ($200 at Aetna)

As from a previous response... Did she suppose it would be free?

$2400 a year is far from free though and that is after tax money so it
is more like $2700. If your kid doesn't have a serious disease, it is
a horrible deal.

Well, not to beat a dead horse but of course it's a bad deal for us
and a great deal for those who wrote the bill..

Actually, I almost agree. It's a great deal for the insurance companies...
30M new people, and a so-so deal for everyone else. Fortunately, unlike The
Constitution, it can be amended and improved... lol You know... In order to
form a __more__ perfect union. Sorry. Scalia/Thomas **** me off.