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"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message m...
On 10/4/10 6:40 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


I do know two young 18-24 year olds who have indicated that they have
either lost in one case, or will be losing in another their coverage
because of changes to their parents health care plans, because of the
new laws.

Bull****.
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No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals


"Bull****"? Is that all you've got?

Yeah, that's all he has... Google failed boatless harry again...

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OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few
seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little
girl...

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
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"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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According to you. Feel free to give up all the benefits, but I think
that
most people are happy to take them, including the 30+ million who are
now or
will shortly be insured.

You truly are a simpleton. Why should anyone give up the benefits they
were forced to pay for in advance?

Personally, I would address the issue she brings up. So far this "30
million who are now or will shortly be insured" is still just a
harrytale... There is no evidence it will actually happen, and if we
are lucky enough it won't in the current form...

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OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few
seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little
girl...

I agree... it won't happen if the Republicans/Tea Baggers have their way.
They would repeal all social reforms.

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
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On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 20:59:37 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 19:27:04 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

turns out incomes of most americans are dropping. but not the rich,
thank god!! they're doing just fine.

the american dream is alive. while the middle class continues to get
hammered, the rich prove that america is becoming a plutocracy...all
the while rush and the right wing tell us it isn't


http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cha...-rich-and-poor

Yeah Obama really changed things didn't he.

Well, he's started to make a difference compared to Bush's laissez faire
capitalistic approach.


How is that? The bailout went to the same fat cats Bush was helping.
Financial regulation left the big banks in charge and did very little
to affect the things that caused the melt down.
The "insurance reform" is only going to make big pharma, the hospital
conglomerates and the insurance companies richer.

I still have not heard anyone here answer the question, what is your
2011 insurance bill going to be?

I do know two young 18-24 year olds who have indicated that they have
either lost in one case, or will be losing in another their coverage
because of changes to their parents health care plans, because of the
new laws. I don't have too many details, but one of the kids already
sold his bike, had his last ride around Labor day.

Like you said, a bunch of health care insurance suits sat in a back room
and wrote the plan, everybody knows it, how can Americans go on as if
that never happened?

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OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few
seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little
girl...

According to you. Kids are allowed to stay on the parent policies until 26.
Yes, there are always exceptions.

On Oct 4, 1:35*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"I am Tosk" wrote in l-september.org...





In article ,
says...

On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 20:59:37 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 19:27:04 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

turns out incomes of most americans are dropping. but not the rich,
thank god!! they're doing just fine.

the american dream is alive. while the middle class continues to get
hammered, the rich prove that america is becoming a plutocracy...all
the while rush and the right wing tell us it isn't

http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cha...cession-effect...

Yeah Obama really changed things didn't he.

Well, he's started to make a difference compared to Bush's laissez faire
capitalistic approach.

How is that? The bailout went to the same fat cats Bush was helping.
Financial regulation left the big banks in charge and did very little
to affect the things that caused the melt down.
The "insurance reform" is only going to make big pharma, the hospital
conglomerates and the insurance companies richer.

I still have not heard anyone here answer the question, what is your
2011 insurance bill going to be?

I do know two young 18-24 year olds who have indicated that they have
either lost in one case, or will be losing in another their coverage
because of changes to their parents health care plans, because of the
new laws. I don't have too many details, but one of the kids already
sold his bike, had his last ride around Labor day.

Like you said, a bunch of health care insurance suits sat in a back room
and wrote the plan, everybody knows it, how can Americans go on as if
that never happened?

--
OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few
seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little
girl...

According to you. Kids are allowed to stay on the parent policies until 26.
Yes, there are always exceptions.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Don't be so stupid... The kids can go on, but the lawyers for the
health insurance companies who wrote the bill, also allow the
companies to charge through the nose for them.. Those policies are new
territory and they are turning out to be too expensive for some...
Idiot, don't you ever look past the talking point?

"JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message
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On Oct 4, 1:35 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"I am Tosk" wrote in
l-september.org...





In article ,
says...

On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 20:59:37 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 19:27:04 -0400, bpuharic
wrote:

turns out incomes of most americans are dropping. but not the rich,
thank god!! they're doing just fine.

the american dream is alive. while the middle class continues to
get
hammered, the rich prove that america is becoming a
plutocracy...all
the while rush and the right wing tell us it isn't

http://www.tnr.com/blog/jonathan-cha...cession-effect...

Yeah Obama really changed things didn't he.

Well, he's started to make a difference compared to Bush's laissez
faire
capitalistic approach.

How is that? The bailout went to the same fat cats Bush was helping.
Financial regulation left the big banks in charge and did very little
to affect the things that caused the melt down.
The "insurance reform" is only going to make big pharma, the hospital
conglomerates and the insurance companies richer.

I still have not heard anyone here answer the question, what is your
2011 insurance bill going to be?

I do know two young 18-24 year olds who have indicated that they have
either lost in one case, or will be losing in another their coverage
because of changes to their parents health care plans, because of the
new laws. I don't have too many details, but one of the kids already
sold his bike, had his last ride around Labor day.

Like you said, a bunch of health care insurance suits sat in a back
room
and wrote the plan, everybody knows it, how can Americans go on as if
that never happened?

--
OH, I could do the 105 footer, but I would hate to waste the last few
seconds of my life with my eyes closed, screaming like a little
girl...

According to you. Kids are allowed to stay on the parent policies until
26.
Yes, there are always exceptions.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Don't be so stupid... The kids can go on, but the lawyers for the
health insurance companies who wrote the bill, also allow the
companies to charge through the nose for them.. Those policies are new
territory and they are turning out to be too expensive for some...
Idiot, don't you ever look past the talking point?

Idiot... don't you ever think about more than the next election? At some
point, the legislation will be amended and improved, unless of course the
Republicans/Teabaggers get back in.

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I still have not heard anyone here answer the question, what is your
2011 insurance bill going to be?

About the only thing that was produced by the Health Care Reform legislation
which was signed into law by Obama is that it is now universally mandatory
to buy a health insurance plan from a private insurer or pay a fine.
(federal employees excepted, of course).

"Charles C." wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I still have not heard anyone here answer the question, what is your
2011 insurance bill going to be?

About the only thing that was produced by the Health Care Reform
legislation which was signed into law by Obama is that it is now
universally mandatory to buy a health insurance plan from a private
insurer or pay a fine. (federal employees excepted, of course).



Sorry you're so out of touch and are unable to google for results.

On 10/4/10 6:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 06:44:26 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

On 10/4/10 6:40 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


I do know two young 18-24 year olds who have indicated that they have
either lost in one case, or will be losing in another their coverage
because of changes to their parents health care plans, because of the
new laws.

Bull****.


The woman my wife works with wanted to put her 20 something kid on her
2011 policy and it is $200 extra a month,
Putting me on my wife's policy is $500 a month

Did she think it would be "free"? I do think $200 is twice what it
should be, but health insurers are still basically unregulated. We need
to get rid of the health insurance industry as it exists in this country.


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Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

"Secular Humoresque" wrote in message
m...
On 10/4/10 6:57 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 06:44:26 -0400, Secular Humoresque
wrote:

On 10/4/10 6:40 AM, I am Tosk wrote:


I do know two young 18-24 year olds who have indicated that they have
either lost in one case, or will be losing in another their coverage
because of changes to their parents health care plans, because of the
new laws.

Bull****.


The woman my wife works with wanted to put her 20 something kid on her
2011 policy and it is $200 extra a month,
Putting me on my wife's policy is $500 a month

Did she think it would be "free"? I do think $200 is twice what it should
be, but health insurers are still basically unregulated. We need to get
rid of the health insurance industry as it exists in this country.


--
Republicans are the Party of No:
No Leaders / No Ideas / No Morals

Correct.

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On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 10:35:42 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

According to you. Kids are allowed to stay on the parent policies until
26.
Yes, there are always exceptions.

It is true that your 2o something can stay on the policy but it is
extra money. ($200 at Aetna)

As from a previous response... Did she suppose it would be free?