John H wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:19:25 -0400, wrote:


John H wrote:

Reading Jim's posts on boat food left me thinking that some of you folks may
have some good ideas for our upcoming trip to Utah. We're planning to leave next
week, taking the travel trailer, and will return o/a the 24th of Sep. We'll be
spending about two weeks in the southern portion of the state seeing Zion
National Park, Arches National Park, Grand Canyon (north rim), Monument Valley,
Canyonland, Muley Point, etc, etc.

In the trailer we have a refrigerator with a small freezer. I'll have the gas
Weber, and electric stoves in the campgrounds. On the way out and back we'll be
spending some nights in Flying J parks, but while in Utah we'll be in
campgrounds or the Grand Canyon Lodge.

So, what I need are suggestions for food. Can't be sandwiches all the time - too
fattening.

Ideas anyone?


On a road trip like that, I would go for the local food. Ask around.
The best places are often those you would never find or try.

You ever try the local Kansas food?

Can't say I have. I've never been to Kansas. It might surprise you!

Secular Humanist wrote:
On 8/26/10 8:00 PM, Larry wrote:
Secular Humanist wrote:
On 8/26/10 7:49 PM, Larry wrote:
Secular Humanist wrote:

7. He's not preparing his daughter for the real world.

How did that work out for you?


My college-educated kids are successful adults with professional jobs.
Is your daughter still working at the massage parlor?
I don't have a daughter, WAFA. How do you know what your kids are doing?
They wrote you off years ago.


Hardly, but it that's what you and your pea-brain want to believe,
well, it's fine with me.

How's your son? Still handing out towels at the bath house?
Of course it's fine with you. It's the truth.

*e#c wrote:
On Aug 26, 8:00 pm, wrote:

Secular Humanist wrote:

On 8/26/10 7:49 PM, Larry wrote:

Secular Humanist wrote:


7. He's not preparing his daughter for the real world.


How did that work out for you?


My college-educated kids are successful adults with professional jobs.
Is your daughter still working at the massage parlor?

I don't have a daughter, WAFA. How do you know what your kids are
doing? They wrote you off years ago.

Larry sneaks into his Sons room at night.....

Really, yellow teeth? And then what?

John H wrote:
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:14:15 -0400, I am
wrote:


In ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:41:02 -0400, I am
wrote:


In ,
says...

Reading Jim's posts on boat food left me thinking that some of you folks may
have some good ideas for our upcoming trip to Utah. We're planning to leave next
week, taking the travel trailer, and will return o/a the 24th of Sep. We'll be
spending about two weeks in the southern portion of the state seeing Zion
National Park, Arches National Park, Grand Canyon (north rim), Monument Valley,
Canyonland, Muley Point, etc, etc.

In the trailer we have a refrigerator with a small freezer. I'll have the gas
Weber, and electric stoves in the campgrounds. On the way out and back we'll be
spending some nights in Flying J parks, but while in Utah we'll be in
campgrounds or the Grand Canyon Lodge.

So, what I need are suggestions for food. Can't be sandwiches all the time - too
fattening.

Ideas anyone?

We find that on longer campouts, simpler is better. I would first
suggest lot's of dry breakfast cereals. They are of course quick and
easy for breakfast, and work well for snacking (dry or wet) during the
day, a great late night quick meal or snack. Another benefit, especially
on a longer trip where diet can get crazy, if anyone has stomach issues,
cereal is usual light and tolerable...

Second, we tend to use the seal a meal and make a few crock pot dishes
ahead of time and put them in the cooler. A bit salty, and they can last
a couple of weeks bagged up in a refrigerator. I like to take a pork
roast, 3-4 pounds and do it up. Slice it and break it into 10 - 12 meal
packages. You can do the same with baked potato and you have the
microwave to heat up the meals and some veggies. I also freeze and
package mashed potato and a great 16 bean stew I make here.

If I were in a camper with 110 for an extended period I might bring my
veggie steamer. Hell, you can grab fresh veggies anywhere and throw them
in anytime. Fresh veggies will help with the whole diet change thing and
keep you in fiber.

Lastly, of course, any kind of ground meat and a few buns, a couple cans
of Bushes baked beans always make a great meal too. If you eat hotdogs,
slice them up and throw them right in the beans YUMMY!

For drinks we carry cases of cheap bottled water and a few small plastic
containers of powdered gatoraide of lemonaide, etc.. and mix it in as
needed, that way you always have lot's of fresh plain water which is
real important in staying "regular" on longer outings... Sometimes
however you just feel like a sugar drink with a bunch of ice

You can also bring some instant potato, quick stuffing, or bisquick
pancake mix to fill in some blanks too..

I purposely didn't mention Hotdogs (served traditionally) or Hamburgers,
bacon and eggs, etc.. as those are probably a given. I am trying to
focus on the stuff that will give you real value between the burgers and
doggers

Now, since you have a microwave too, you have an opportunity for
"breakfast potatoes".. You make your bacon, and eggs, and cheese, or
whatever slather it all over a fresh baked (skin on) brown russet, split
in half and mashed out flat. Kind of like making a potato and egg
pizza

The idea is to try to eat as healthy and "normal" as possible as much as
possible when you are out there. Being in a camper as opposed to a tent
you have a much better opportunity to do this and everyone will feel
better for it...

HTH

Some good ideas there! Thanks.

Yup, I did a lot of camping last year but it was somewhat different as
when we camp, it usually involves about 6-8 hours a day of work to
support the racer You may have a bit more time on your hands than I
do. Hope you have a great trip!

We're planning on averaging about 430 miles per day, so there won't be a whole
lot of free time. Although, the 4Runner does a good job of towing that trailer
at 60-65 mph. Now if I could just figure out a way to keep the mileage at 20
instead of 12 mpg!

Trade it in for an X5 3.5d!

On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:27:08 -0400, Larry wrote:

John H wrote:
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:14:15 -0400, I am
wrote:


In ,
says...

On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:41:02 -0400, I am
wrote:


In ,
says...

Reading Jim's posts on boat food left me thinking that some of you folks may
have some good ideas for our upcoming trip to Utah. We're planning to leave next
week, taking the travel trailer, and will return o/a the 24th of Sep. We'll be
spending about two weeks in the southern portion of the state seeing Zion
National Park, Arches National Park, Grand Canyon (north rim), Monument Valley,
Canyonland, Muley Point, etc, etc.

In the trailer we have a refrigerator with a small freezer. I'll have the gas
Weber, and electric stoves in the campgrounds. On the way out and back we'll be
spending some nights in Flying J parks, but while in Utah we'll be in
campgrounds or the Grand Canyon Lodge.

So, what I need are suggestions for food. Can't be sandwiches all the time - too
fattening.

Ideas anyone?

We find that on longer campouts, simpler is better. I would first
suggest lot's of dry breakfast cereals. They are of course quick and
easy for breakfast, and work well for snacking (dry or wet) during the
day, a great late night quick meal or snack. Another benefit, especially
on a longer trip where diet can get crazy, if anyone has stomach issues,
cereal is usual light and tolerable...

Second, we tend to use the seal a meal and make a few crock pot dishes
ahead of time and put them in the cooler. A bit salty, and they can last
a couple of weeks bagged up in a refrigerator. I like to take a pork
roast, 3-4 pounds and do it up. Slice it and break it into 10 - 12 meal
packages. You can do the same with baked potato and you have the
microwave to heat up the meals and some veggies. I also freeze and
package mashed potato and a great 16 bean stew I make here.

If I were in a camper with 110 for an extended period I might bring my
veggie steamer. Hell, you can grab fresh veggies anywhere and throw them
in anytime. Fresh veggies will help with the whole diet change thing and
keep you in fiber.

Lastly, of course, any kind of ground meat and a few buns, a couple cans
of Bushes baked beans always make a great meal too. If you eat hotdogs,
slice them up and throw them right in the beans YUMMY!

For drinks we carry cases of cheap bottled water and a few small plastic
containers of powdered gatoraide of lemonaide, etc.. and mix it in as
needed, that way you always have lot's of fresh plain water which is
real important in staying "regular" on longer outings... Sometimes
however you just feel like a sugar drink with a bunch of ice

You can also bring some instant potato, quick stuffing, or bisquick
pancake mix to fill in some blanks too..

I purposely didn't mention Hotdogs (served traditionally) or Hamburgers,
bacon and eggs, etc.. as those are probably a given. I am trying to
focus on the stuff that will give you real value between the burgers and
doggers

Now, since you have a microwave too, you have an opportunity for
"breakfast potatoes".. You make your bacon, and eggs, and cheese, or
whatever slather it all over a fresh baked (skin on) brown russet, split
in half and mashed out flat. Kind of like making a potato and egg
pizza

The idea is to try to eat as healthy and "normal" as possible as much as
possible when you are out there. Being in a camper as opposed to a tent
you have a much better opportunity to do this and everyone will feel
better for it...

HTH

Some good ideas there! Thanks.

Yup, I did a lot of camping last year but it was somewhat different as
when we camp, it usually involves about 6-8 hours a day of work to
support the racer You may have a bit more time on your hands than I
do. Hope you have a great trip!

We're planning on averaging about 430 miles per day, so there won't be a whole
lot of free time. Although, the 4Runner does a good job of towing that trailer
at 60-65 mph. Now if I could just figure out a way to keep the mileage at 20
instead of 12 mpg!

Trade it in for an X5 3.5d!

I could knock it down to 3.5 days with the 4Runner, but I don't know if the
tires on the trailer would take 85mph for that long!
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

John H wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:27:08 -0400, wrote:


John H wrote:

On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:14:15 -0400, I am
wrote:



In ,
says...


On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:41:02 -0400, I am
wrote:



In ,
says...


Reading Jim's posts on boat food left me thinking that some of you folks may
have some good ideas for our upcoming trip to Utah. We're planning to leave next
week, taking the travel trailer, and will return o/a the 24th of Sep. We'll be
spending about two weeks in the southern portion of the state seeing Zion
National Park, Arches National Park, Grand Canyon (north rim), Monument Valley,
Canyonland, Muley Point, etc, etc.

In the trailer we have a refrigerator with a small freezer. I'll have the gas
Weber, and electric stoves in the campgrounds. On the way out and back we'll be
spending some nights in Flying J parks, but while in Utah we'll be in
campgrounds or the Grand Canyon Lodge.

So, what I need are suggestions for food. Can't be sandwiches all the time - too
fattening.

Ideas anyone?


We find that on longer campouts, simpler is better. I would first
suggest lot's of dry breakfast cereals. They are of course quick and
easy for breakfast, and work well for snacking (dry or wet) during the
day, a great late night quick meal or snack. Another benefit, especially
on a longer trip where diet can get crazy, if anyone has stomach issues,
cereal is usual light and tolerable...

Second, we tend to use the seal a meal and make a few crock pot dishes
ahead of time and put them in the cooler. A bit salty, and they can last
a couple of weeks bagged up in a refrigerator. I like to take a pork
roast, 3-4 pounds and do it up. Slice it and break it into 10 - 12 meal
packages. You can do the same with baked potato and you have the
microwave to heat up the meals and some veggies. I also freeze and
package mashed potato and a great 16 bean stew I make here.

If I were in a camper with 110 for an extended period I might bring my
veggie steamer. Hell, you can grab fresh veggies anywhere and throw them
in anytime. Fresh veggies will help with the whole diet change thing and
keep you in fiber.

Lastly, of course, any kind of ground meat and a few buns, a couple cans
of Bushes baked beans always make a great meal too. If you eat hotdogs,
slice them up and throw them right in the beans YUMMY!

For drinks we carry cases of cheap bottled water and a few small plastic
containers of powdered gatoraide of lemonaide, etc.. and mix it in as
needed, that way you always have lot's of fresh plain water which is
real important in staying "regular" on longer outings... Sometimes
however you just feel like a sugar drink with a bunch of ice

You can also bring some instant potato, quick stuffing, or bisquick
pancake mix to fill in some blanks too..

I purposely didn't mention Hotdogs (served traditionally) or Hamburgers,
bacon and eggs, etc.. as those are probably a given. I am trying to
focus on the stuff that will give you real value between the burgers and
doggers

Now, since you have a microwave too, you have an opportunity for
"breakfast potatoes".. You make your bacon, and eggs, and cheese, or
whatever slather it all over a fresh baked (skin on) brown russet, split
in half and mashed out flat. Kind of like making a potato and egg
pizza

The idea is to try to eat as healthy and "normal" as possible as much as
possible when you are out there. Being in a camper as opposed to a tent
you have a much better opportunity to do this and everyone will feel
better for it...

HTH


Some good ideas there! Thanks.


Yup, I did a lot of camping last year but it was somewhat different as
when we camp, it usually involves about 6-8 hours a day of work to
support the racer You may have a bit more time on your hands than I
do. Hope you have a great trip!


We're planning on averaging about 430 miles per day, so there won't be a whole
lot of free time. Although, the 4Runner does a good job of towing that trailer
at 60-65 mph. Now if I could just figure out a way to keep the mileage at 20
instead of 12 mpg!


Trade it in for an X5 3.5d!

I could knock it down to 3.5 days with the 4Runner, but I don't know if the
tires on the trailer would take 85mph for that long!

I was referring to the gas mileage. 23MPG in a 5500# vehicle.

I could knock it down to 3.5 days with the 4Runner, but I don't know if
the
tires on the trailer would take 85mph for that long!

Have you noticed that Utah law enforcement vehicles are no older than six
months old? Do you know how they get the money to replace them that often?

In my little town of 900 people, we have four overlapping jurisdictions.
There is a 40 mph speed limit, and all the locals are well aware of it.
Then know it actually is 39, so most drive 35 except the gen-x-ers, aliens,
idiots, and those who just got their driver's licenses. But there's a
parade of California, Arizona, Nevada, and other out of state cars that are
being written up all day long. Speeding tickets in a residential area start
around $300.

Steve

read about heart surgery and how to prepare for it at:
http://cabgbypasssurgery.com

In article ,
says...

I could knock it down to 3.5 days with the 4Runner, but I don't know if
the
tires on the trailer would take 85mph for that long!

Have you noticed that Utah law enforcement vehicles are no older than six
months old? Do you know how they get the money to replace them that often?

In my little town of 900 people, we have four overlapping jurisdictions.
There is a 40 mph speed limit, and all the locals are well aware of it.
Then know it actually is 39, so most drive 35 except the gen-x-ers, aliens,
idiots, and those who just got their driver's licenses. But there's a
parade of California, Arizona, Nevada, and other out of state cars that are
being written up all day long. Speeding tickets in a residential area start
around $300.

Steve

read about heart surgery and how to prepare for it at:
http://cabgbypasssurgery.com

So vote someone in who will break the cycle.

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 19:50:43 -0400, Larry wrote:

John H wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:27:08 -0400, wrote:


John H wrote:

On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:14:15 -0400, I am
wrote:



In ,
says...


On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:41:02 -0400, I am
wrote:



In ,
says...


Reading Jim's posts on boat food left me thinking that some of you folks may
have some good ideas for our upcoming trip to Utah. We're planning to leave next
week, taking the travel trailer, and will return o/a the 24th of Sep. We'll be
spending about two weeks in the southern portion of the state seeing Zion
National Park, Arches National Park, Grand Canyon (north rim), Monument Valley,
Canyonland, Muley Point, etc, etc.

In the trailer we have a refrigerator with a small freezer. I'll have the gas
Weber, and electric stoves in the campgrounds. On the way out and back we'll be
spending some nights in Flying J parks, but while in Utah we'll be in
campgrounds or the Grand Canyon Lodge.

So, what I need are suggestions for food. Can't be sandwiches all the time - too
fattening.

Ideas anyone?


We find that on longer campouts, simpler is better. I would first
suggest lot's of dry breakfast cereals. They are of course quick and
easy for breakfast, and work well for snacking (dry or wet) during the
day, a great late night quick meal or snack. Another benefit, especially
on a longer trip where diet can get crazy, if anyone has stomach issues,
cereal is usual light and tolerable...

Second, we tend to use the seal a meal and make a few crock pot dishes
ahead of time and put them in the cooler. A bit salty, and they can last
a couple of weeks bagged up in a refrigerator. I like to take a pork
roast, 3-4 pounds and do it up. Slice it and break it into 10 - 12 meal
packages. You can do the same with baked potato and you have the
microwave to heat up the meals and some veggies. I also freeze and
package mashed potato and a great 16 bean stew I make here.

If I were in a camper with 110 for an extended period I might bring my
veggie steamer. Hell, you can grab fresh veggies anywhere and throw them
in anytime. Fresh veggies will help with the whole diet change thing and
keep you in fiber.

Lastly, of course, any kind of ground meat and a few buns, a couple cans
of Bushes baked beans always make a great meal too. If you eat hotdogs,
slice them up and throw them right in the beans YUMMY!

For drinks we carry cases of cheap bottled water and a few small plastic
containers of powdered gatoraide of lemonaide, etc.. and mix it in as
needed, that way you always have lot's of fresh plain water which is
real important in staying "regular" on longer outings... Sometimes
however you just feel like a sugar drink with a bunch of ice

You can also bring some instant potato, quick stuffing, or bisquick
pancake mix to fill in some blanks too..

I purposely didn't mention Hotdogs (served traditionally) or Hamburgers,
bacon and eggs, etc.. as those are probably a given. I am trying to
focus on the stuff that will give you real value between the burgers and
doggers

Now, since you have a microwave too, you have an opportunity for
"breakfast potatoes".. You make your bacon, and eggs, and cheese, or
whatever slather it all over a fresh baked (skin on) brown russet, split
in half and mashed out flat. Kind of like making a potato and egg
pizza

The idea is to try to eat as healthy and "normal" as possible as much as
possible when you are out there. Being in a camper as opposed to a tent
you have a much better opportunity to do this and everyone will feel
better for it...

HTH


Some good ideas there! Thanks.


Yup, I did a lot of camping last year but it was somewhat different as
when we camp, it usually involves about 6-8 hours a day of work to
support the racer You may have a bit more time on your hands than I
do. Hope you have a great trip!


We're planning on averaging about 430 miles per day, so there won't be a whole
lot of free time. Although, the 4Runner does a good job of towing that trailer
at 60-65 mph. Now if I could just figure out a way to keep the mileage at 20
instead of 12 mpg!


Trade it in for an X5 3.5d!

I could knock it down to 3.5 days with the 4Runner, but I don't know if the
tires on the trailer would take 85mph for that long!

I was referring to the gas mileage. 23MPG in a 5500# vehicle.

While pulling a 3900lb trailer?

Damn. That's good.

I get 22mpg when pulling nothing using the cruise control at 65. Plus, I have
the luxury of cloth covered seats, which I'm sure you don't.
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.

On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:35:41 -0700, "Steve B" wrote:


I could knock it down to 3.5 days with the 4Runner, but I don't know if
the
tires on the trailer would take 85mph for that long!

Have you noticed that Utah law enforcement vehicles are no older than six
months old? Do you know how they get the money to replace them that often?

In my little town of 900 people, we have four overlapping jurisdictions.
There is a 40 mph speed limit, and all the locals are well aware of it.
Then know it actually is 39, so most drive 35 except the gen-x-ers, aliens,
idiots, and those who just got their driver's licenses. But there's a
parade of California, Arizona, Nevada, and other out of state cars that are
being written up all day long. Speeding tickets in a residential area start
around $300.

Steve

read about heart surgery and how to prepare for it at:
http://cabgbypasssurgery.com


I've never been to Utah, so I've not noticed. How can you tell they're no older
than six months?
--
John H

All decisions are the result of binary thinking.