On 7/24/10 8:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:27 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:55:29 -0400, wrote:

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gee. why not let the GOP drop its lies about capital gains tax cuts
stimulating the economy and see?


I think we have already seen. When Clinton cut the Cap gains rate to
20% the Dow went to $11,000. When Bush cut it to 15% the Dow went to
$14,000.

gee. how'd the dow do over the last 3 years with bush's tax cuts in
place

oh. it tanked.

yeah. that's certainly proof that tax cuts help the economy, isn't it?



The Dow was $10,424 Friday and if Obama could actually create some
jobs that weren'r census takers and unemployment clerks it would be
$15,000.

Of course that only affects "buy and hold" people. If you had sense
enough to stop l;oss your windfall in 2006-2007 then buy back in after
the crash, you made a lot of money. I posted my 401k numbers the other
day and my fund manager made over 4% per year over the last 3.


Obama can steer the government into creating or sustaining public sector
jobs, and federal agencies can help the private sector be in a better
position to create or add jobs or rehire, but the private sector isn't
doing anything, despite soaring profits in some segments. It's too bad
the "private" economy doesn't work anymore.

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:53:01 -0400, Harry ?
wrote:

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Obama can steer the government into creating or sustaining public sector
jobs, and federal agencies can help the private sector be in a better
position to create or add jobs or rehire, but the private sector isn't
doing anything, despite soaring profits in some segments. It's too bad
the "private" economy doesn't work anymore.

the logic USED to be that companies would transfer SOME portion of
productivity increases to workers in the form of increased wages. this
is needed to keep the middle class vibrant and spending.

but in the last 30 years, ALL producitivity increases have gone to
CEO's and stockholders (the top 10% of weathholders have 90% of
stock).

that's one principal reason we're in the shape we're in. the wealthy
are now reaping what they sowed.

On 23-Jul-2010, W1TEF wrote:

The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.

So he's a hypocrite and scum bag, not an idiot! No news there.

On 24/07/2010 6:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:27 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:55:29 -0400, wrote:

.

gee. why not let the GOP drop its lies about capital gains tax cuts
stimulating the economy and see?


I think we have already seen. When Clinton cut the Cap gains rate to
20% the Dow went to $11,000. When Bush cut it to 15% the Dow went to
$14,000.

gee. how'd the dow do over the last 3 years with bush's tax cuts in
place

oh. it tanked.

yeah. that's certainly proof that tax cuts help the economy, isn't it?



The Dow was $10,424 Friday and if Obama could actually create some
jobs that weren'r census takers and unemployment clerks it would be
$15,000.

Of course that only affects "buy and hold" people. If you had sense
enough to stop l;oss your windfall in 2006-2007 then buy back in after
the crash, you made a lot of money. I posted my 401k numbers the other
day and my fund manager made over 4% per year over the last 3.

But we have to be thankful for that once in a life time bonaza the
liberal-lefties ponzi money management gave us. Buying Ford at $2.25
and selling in the high $6, and others ... priceless.

4%, that is nothing. If a fund maanger was worth salt, they would have
don't that in an average month in 2009.
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Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

On 24/07/2010 6:15 PM, bpuharic wrote:

unfortunately private industry in the US is supposed to create jobs.
they're not. after 30 years of starving the middle class, america's
corporations have discovered that people cant spend money they dont
have

It is not economical at the moment to provide those jobs.

Most people don't have the money for debt and taxes.

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

On 24/07/2010 6:53 PM, Harry  wrote:
On 7/24/10 8:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:27 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:55:29 -0400, wrote:

.

gee. why not let the GOP drop its lies about capital gains tax cuts
stimulating the economy and see?


I think we have already seen. When Clinton cut the Cap gains rate to
20% the Dow went to $11,000. When Bush cut it to 15% the Dow went to
$14,000.

gee. how'd the dow do over the last 3 years with bush's tax cuts in
place

oh. it tanked.

yeah. that's certainly proof that tax cuts help the economy, isn't it?



The Dow was $10,424 Friday and if Obama could actually create some
jobs that weren'r census takers and unemployment clerks it would be
$15,000.

Of course that only affects "buy and hold" people. If you had sense
enough to stop l;oss your windfall in 2006-2007 then buy back in after
the crash, you made a lot of money. I posted my 401k numbers the other
day and my fund manager made over 4% per year over the last 3.


Obama can steer the government into creating or sustaining public sector
jobs, and federal agencies can help the private sector be in a better
position to create or add jobs or rehire, but the private sector isn't
doing anything, despite soaring profits in some segments. It's too bad
the "private" economy doesn't work anymore.

Not sustainable. Governemtn cannot create wealth, they can only
redistribute it and consume it. But cannot create wealth.

You really do not knwo economics if you do not understand government
cannot create wealth.

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Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:10:35 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 24/07/2010 6:15 PM, bpuharic wrote:

unfortunately private industry in the US is supposed to create jobs.
they're not. after 30 years of starving the middle class, america's
corporations have discovered that people cant spend money they dont
have

It is not economical at the moment to provide those jobs.

yeah. the right can't steal enough money right now because the middle
class is tapped out.


Most people don't have the money for debt and taxes.

correct. the richest 1% had their incomes increase by 500% in the last
30 years

while the middle class had NO increase

and the right wing wonders why the middle class isn't spending

DUH!!

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:12:18 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


Not sustainable. Governemtn cannot create wealth, they can only
redistribute it and consume it. But cannot create wealth.

they can make investments that have a positive ROI, just like
companies can.



You really do not knwo economics if you do not understand government
cannot create wealth.

weatlh has many forms. and yes, govt can create wealth

ever hear of public education?

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:44:51 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:25:18 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

You really do not knwo economics if you do not understand government
cannot create wealth.

weatlh has many forms. and yes, govt can create wealth

ever hear of public education?

You don't want to go there. The public education system has created
those 100,000,000 million people without the job skills to compete in
a world economy.

uh no.

wall street did that.

virtually all those people were employed prior to 2007. then wall
street went crazy and destroyed the economy.

or are you saying that, in a period of 3 years, the entire educational
structure of the US collapsed and caused 50 year old workers to lose
their skills?

more right wing bull****

you guys...dont you get embarrassed when you write this bull****? does
it never occur to you that, perhaps, wall street could have something
to do with our problems?

no. i suppose not.

we have a middle class you hate

and a darkie president.

these are great times to be right wing

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On Jul 23, 3:13 pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:18:26 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:06:50 -0700, jps wrote:

You think there are more rich Ds than Rs?

Just the ones with power, like Senators and presidents.
I am sure a lot more poor people believe Democrats are helping them
but if you can believe the chart Bob is selling this week, the "middle
class" got screwed as badly in the 90s as they did in the 2000s.

Oh, come on. Those are the second and third tier sock puppets who do
the bidding of the truly powerful.

They write and pass laws to protect wealth and put systems in place to
ensure that the wealthy aren't disturbed.

My bet is that wealthy Ds are far more likely to accept a raise in
taxes than their Republican counterparts.

And my contention is that there are far fewer truly wealthy Ds than
Rs.

It is well known that Dems get more of their money from rich people
whereas the Repubs get theirs from small individual donations. Dems
are the party of the rich and the party of the parasitical overpaid
govt employees.
Look at how many of the Obama appointees illegally avoided paying
taxes until they were appointed. Then they were allowed to just pay a
few fines. Fat chance of that happening to anybody else. Dems
believe in taxing the poor and because they are rich they can afford
to pay tax advisors to avoid paying taxes.
All taxpayers are equal but some are more equal than others.
Democrats are the party of the rich.

WHAT??? You're just making things up. The 180 deg opposite is true. Good
grief at least try to lie creatively and with some subtlety.