I read the wiki on diesels, and I think I read that if a diesel is running,
then it doesn't need a spark (e.g., battery energy) to keep running. If
that's the case, then it seems like you should be able to start a diesel by
hand, assuming you have the muscle or leverage. So, in the former case, even
if your battery died - perhaps got wet and shorted out - then the engine
would keep running. In the latter situation if the battery was already dead,
you might be able to crank it to start it.

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Nom=de=Plume

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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I read the wiki on diesels, and I think I read that if a diesel is running,
then it doesn't need a spark (e.g., battery energy) to keep running. If
that's the case, then it seems like you should be able to start a diesel by
hand, assuming you have the muscle or leverage. So, in the former case,
even if your battery died - perhaps got wet and shorted out - then the
engine would keep running. In the latter situation if the battery was
already dead, you might be able to crank it to start it.

--
Nom=de=Plume


In the old days you could do just that. Any modern diesel has electronic
controls.

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
I read the wiki on diesels, and I think I read that if a diesel is
running, then it doesn't need a spark (e.g., battery energy) to keep
running. If that's the case, then it seems like you should be able to
start a diesel by hand, assuming you have the muscle or leverage. So, in
the former case, even if your battery died - perhaps got wet and shorted
out - then the engine would keep running. In the latter situation if the
battery was already dead, you might be able to crank it to start it.

--
Nom=de=Plume


In the old days you could do just that. Any modern diesel has electronic
controls.



I guess you're unable to understand what I wrote. Did I mention recently
that you're an idiot?

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Nom=de=Plume

On Apr 28, 12:19*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Bill McKee" wrote in message

m...





"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
I read the wiki on diesels, and I think I read that if a diesel is
running, then it doesn't need a spark (e.g., battery energy) to keep
running. If that's the case, then it seems like you should be able to
start a diesel by hand, assuming you have the muscle or leverage. So, in
the former case, even if your battery died - perhaps got wet and shorted
out - then the engine would keep running. In the latter situation if the
battery was already dead, you might be able to crank it to start it.

--
Nom=de=Plume

In the old days you could do just that. *Any modern diesel has electronic
controls.

I guess you're unable to understand what I wrote. Did I mention recently
that you're an idiot?

--
Nom=de=Plume

D'Plume. I take it you are too daft to understand that Bill is correct
and that you throw the word "idiot" around too loosly?

However, to give you the benefit of the doubt, If the engine is small
and primitive enough in design, this was of a standard norm. One would
first trigger the compression release, and crank-spin the crankshaft
vigorously, then trip the compression release and it should run.

But modern designed diesels are equipped with computerized,
electronic fuel injection and do require electricity to operate the
injection controls.

"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Apr 28, 12:19 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Bill McKee" wrote in message

m...





"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
I read the wiki on diesels, and I think I read that if a diesel is
running, then it doesn't need a spark (e.g., battery energy) to keep
running. If that's the case, then it seems like you should be able to
start a diesel by hand, assuming you have the muscle or leverage. So, in
the former case, even if your battery died - perhaps got wet and shorted
out - then the engine would keep running. In the latter situation if the
battery was already dead, you might be able to crank it to start it.

--
Nom=de=Plume

In the old days you could do just that. Any modern diesel has electronic
controls.

I guess you're unable to understand what I wrote. Did I mention recently
that you're an idiot?

--
Nom=de=Plume

D'Plume. I take it you are too daft to understand that Bill is correct
and that you throw the word "idiot" around too loosly?

Firstly, I didn't specifically mention "modern" diesels, but in any case, he
didn't address the other part of the question. He's claims he so brilliant,
but obviously idiot is apropos.

However, to give you the benefit of the doubt, If the engine is small
and primitive enough in design, this was of a standard norm. One would
first trigger the compression release, and crank-spin the crankshaft
vigorously, then trip the compression release and it should run.

Yes, I read about the compression gate.

But modern designed diesels are equipped with computerized,
electronic fuel injection and do require electricity to operate the
injection controls.

See my response on this to jps.

Thanks for being marginally civil.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:33:34 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Firstly, I didn't specifically mention "modern" diesels, but in any case, he
didn't address the other part of the question. He's claims he so brilliant,
but obviously idiot is apropos.

Frankly your attitude is deplorable. You come here, obviously knowing
very little, reasonable people offer you reasonable answers, and you
call them idiots.

Give me a few good reasons why we should waste further time with you.

I ask this because I can't think of any at the moment.

Go away and reconsider.

You are either trolling or have a total lack of knowledge combined
with a personality disorder. If the latter, this group already has
enough to go around.

On Apr 28, 1:19*am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Bill McKee" wrote in message

m...







"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
I read the wiki on diesels, and I think I read that if a diesel is
running, then it doesn't need a spark (e.g., battery energy) to keep
running. If that's the case, then it seems like you should be able to
start a diesel by hand, assuming you have the muscle or leverage. So, in
the former case, even if your battery died - perhaps got wet and shorted
out - then the engine would keep running. In the latter situation if the
battery was already dead, you might be able to crank it to start it.

--
Nom=de=Plume

In the old days you could do just that. *Any modern diesel has electronic
controls.

I guess you're unable to understand what I wrote. Did I mention recently
that you're an idiot?

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Bill answered your post correctly. Why the hatred?

"Loogypicker" wrote in message
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On Apr 28, 1:19 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Bill McKee" wrote in message

m...







"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
I read the wiki on diesels, and I think I read that if a diesel is
running, then it doesn't need a spark (e.g., battery energy) to keep
running. If that's the case, then it seems like you should be able to
start a diesel by hand, assuming you have the muscle or leverage. So, in
the former case, even if your battery died - perhaps got wet and shorted
out - then the engine would keep running. In the latter situation if the
battery was already dead, you might be able to crank it to start it.

--
Nom=de=Plume

In the old days you could do just that. Any modern diesel has electronic
controls.

I guess you're unable to understand what I wrote. Did I mention recently
that you're an idiot?

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Bill answered your post correctly. Why the hatred?


No hatred, and no he didn't answer the questions I asked.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Apr 28, 1:39*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Loogypicker" wrote in message

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On Apr 28, 1:19 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:



"Bill McKee" wrote in message

om...

"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
I read the wiki on diesels, and I think I read that if a diesel is
running, then it doesn't need a spark (e.g., battery energy) to keep
running. If that's the case, then it seems like you should be able to
start a diesel by hand, assuming you have the muscle or leverage. So, in
the former case, even if your battery died - perhaps got wet and shorted
out - then the engine would keep running. In the latter situation if the
battery was already dead, you might be able to crank it to start it.

--
Nom=de=Plume

In the old days you could do just that. Any modern diesel has electronic
controls.

I guess you're unable to understand what I wrote. Did I mention recently
that you're an idiot?

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Bill answered your post correctly. Why the hatred?

No hatred, and no he didn't answer the questions I asked.

Bill told you exactly the same thing as jps, he just used less words
to express the same thoughts. You reacted differently. There's your
"hatred".

Oh, and you never asked any questions in your post, you simply made
some statements of your understanding after having read a wiki. A
question would be something like... Am I correct? Do they work like
this? There isn't a single question mark in your post, or even a
sentence formed as a question.

Your conversational and social skills are sorely lacking.

Loogypicker wrote:
On Apr 28, 1:19 am, wrote:

"Bill wrote in message

m...








wrote in message
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I read the wiki on diesels, and I think I read that if a diesel is
running, then it doesn't need a spark (e.g., battery energy) to keep
running. If that's the case, then it seems like you should be able to
start a diesel by hand, assuming you have the muscle or leverage. So, in
the former case, even if your battery died - perhaps got wet and shorted
out - then the engine would keep running. In the latter situation if the
battery was already dead, you might be able to crank it to start it.


--
Nom=de=Plume


In the old days you could do just that. Any modern diesel has electronic
controls.

I guess you're unable to understand what I wrote. Did I mention recently
that you're an idiot?

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Bill answered your post correctly. Why the hatred?

She lives for confrontation.