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On 4/29/2010 12:03 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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On 4/28/2010 11:01 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:33:34 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Firstly, I didn't specifically mention "modern" diesels, but in any
case,
he
didn't address the other part of the question. He's claims he so
brilliant,
but obviously idiot is apropos.

Frankly your attitude is deplorable. You come here, obviously knowing
very little, reasonable people offer you reasonable answers, and you
call them idiots.

Poor you. Sorry Wayne, but I'm allowed to ask questions. If you don't
like
that, you can go suck an egg. Or, you can ignore me. Frankly, your
attitude
is bizarre. I asked a legitimate and intelligent question, and you and
a
couple of other people answered it. Even Topper mostly answered it.


Give me a few good reasons why we should waste further time with you.

I ask this because I can't think of any at the moment.

Not my problem. Sounds like yours.


Go away and reconsider.

You go away. I'm here. Too bad if you don't like it.


You are either trolling or have a total lack of knowledge combined
with a personality disorder. If the latter, this group already has
enough to go around.

Poor baby.



What's this "poor baby" ****. You have too much time on your hands. Go
knit a quilt or play with your dolls or something. Leave us alone.


You sound like an angry child... leave me alone, leave me alone... well,
take your marbles, if you have any, and leave.



In your dreams.


Apparently in your dreams you have marbles. In reality, you have no balls.
LOL



How was that apparent to anyone?

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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:01:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Poor baby.

Bye now.

plonk


I know you're afraid of me. Have a nice, cozy time in your rabbit hole.



No one is "afraid" of mindless trolling pond scum.


You sound afraid... very afraid.

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On 4/28/2010 11:03 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Apr 28, 1:39 pm, wrote:
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On Apr 28, 1:19 am, wrote:



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I read the wiki on diesels, and I think I read that if a diesel is
running, then it doesn't need a spark (e.g., battery energy) to keep
running. If that's the case, then it seems like you should be able
to
start a diesel by hand, assuming you have the muscle or leverage.
So,
in
the former case, even if your battery died - perhaps got wet and
shorted
out - then the engine would keep running. In the latter situation if
the
battery was already dead, you might be able to crank it to start it.

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Nom=de=Plume

In the old days you could do just that. Any modern diesel has
electronic
controls.

I guess you're unable to understand what I wrote. Did I mention
recently
that you're an idiot?

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Bill answered your post correctly. Why the hatred?

No hatred, and no he didn't answer the questions I asked.

Bill told you exactly the same thing as jps, he just used less words
to express the same thoughts. You reacted differently. There's your
"hatred".

Oh, and you never asked any questions in your post, you simply made
some statements of your understanding after having read a wiki. A
question would be something like... Am I correct? Do they work like
this? There isn't a single question mark in your post, or even a
sentence formed as a question.

Your conversational and social skills are sorely lacking.

Reply: He didn't. He didn't answer the second part. If you're unable to
figure out there was an implied question and he did and attempted to
answer
it, your statement is what's lacking in brain power.



What's this "reply:" ****? Fix your news reader.
Outlook Express is far too complicated for her.


Life is, apparently, far to complicated for you.

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nom=de=plume wrote:

I guess you're unable to understand what I wrote. Did I mention
recently
that you're an idiot?

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Bill answered your post correctly. Why the hatred?


She lives for confrontation.

And, you're brain dead!



Typical response.


Perhaps. Also accurate.

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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:13:54 -0400, wrote:


Even a car with an alternator needs some little bit of battery power
to get going. The alternator will not put out until you excite the
field, something I found out when I built this
http://gfretwell.com/electrical/redneck_power.jpg
Hence the little Gel Cell.

It turns out that almost all alternators have a little residual
magnetism and if you just spin them fast enough they will start
generating.

If not you get double your money back. :-)

But does it generate enough current to get the diesel spark needed to
get
it started?

Steve ;-)



Steve, I'm sorry, but I started this thread, so I'm sure someone else
will
take credit for it.



Looking for "credit" for starting a thread? Your life is that pathetic?
How sad.


Actually, I was responding to the nutcases who said I never talk about
sailing, but you're an expert when it comes to pathetic, so I'll defer to
you.

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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:43:02 -0700, nom=de=plume wrote:

I read the wiki on diesels, and I think I read that if a diesel is
running, then it doesn't need a spark (e.g., battery energy) to keep
running. If that's the case, then it seems like you should be able to
start a diesel by hand, assuming you have the muscle or leverage. So, in
the former case, even if your battery died - perhaps got wet and shorted
out - then the engine would keep running. In the latter situation if the
battery was already dead, you might be able to crank it to start it.

I own a small diesel generator (3.5KW) set that has a pull rope to start
it, or it can be cranked over with a battery. I have jumper cables
permanently attached so if it comes time to use it I can quickly attach
them to the yard tractor to start. I then turn off the key that disables
the charging system. Disconnect the the battery cables and can then
connect it to 120/240 volt for standby use. It is mounted on wheels in a
carry frame for use during a hurricane.

Once it is hot, it can be shut down and will restart without the battery
if you can get it to the correct rotation position to pull it through a
compression stroke with the fuel injection pump in the run
position.(Easier to get the tractor to jump it again.)This is the manual
function to shut it down. No electricity required to keep it running.

Once running, the generator works using residual magnetism to flash the
fields to generate AC voltage. The battery is not needed for this to
function.

It was originally manufactured to hold a battery, but because this is only
used when required I don't see any reason to maintain another battery that
can be monumentally replaced using the lawn tractor battery to jump start
it.



Interesting... thanks for the detail.

On Apr 29, 10:04*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:01:33 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Poor baby.

Bye now.

plonk

I know you're afraid of me. Have a nice, cozy time in your rabbit hole..

No one is "afraid" of mindless trolling pond scum.

You sound afraid... very afraid.

Well, very few people actually like being sprayed by your scent
glands , D'Plume. Or in this case, D'Fum

On 4/29/2010 11:07 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"Steve wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:13:54 -0400, wrote:


Even a car with an alternator needs some little bit of battery power
to get going. The alternator will not put out until you excite the
field, something I found out when I built this
http://gfretwell.com/electrical/redneck_power.jpg
Hence the little Gel Cell.

It turns out that almost all alternators have a little residual
magnetism and if you just spin them fast enough they will start
generating.

If not you get double your money back. :-)

But does it generate enough current to get the diesel spark needed to
get
it started?

Steve ;-)



Steve, I'm sorry, but I started this thread, so I'm sure someone else
will
take credit for it.



Looking for "credit" for starting a thread? Your life is that pathetic?
How sad.


Actually, I was responding to the nutcases who said I never talk about
sailing, but you're an expert when it comes to pathetic, so I'll defer to
you.


Show us where you started a serious boating thread. FYI There are
sailing newsgroups if that is where your interests lay. Most of us here
have forgotten more about sailing than you will ever learn.

On 4/29/2010 11:07 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:43:02 -0700, nom=de=plume wrote:

I read the wiki on diesels, and I think I read that if a diesel is
running, then it doesn't need a spark (e.g., battery energy) to keep
running. If that's the case, then it seems like you should be able to
start a diesel by hand, assuming you have the muscle or leverage. So, in
the former case, even if your battery died - perhaps got wet and shorted
out - then the engine would keep running. In the latter situation if the
battery was already dead, you might be able to crank it to start it.

I own a small diesel generator (3.5KW) set that has a pull rope to start
it, or it can be cranked over with a battery. I have jumper cables
permanently attached so if it comes time to use it I can quickly attach
them to the yard tractor to start. I then turn off the key that disables
the charging system. Disconnect the the battery cables and can then
connect it to 120/240 volt for standby use. It is mounted on wheels in a
carry frame for use during a hurricane.

Once it is hot, it can be shut down and will restart without the battery
if you can get it to the correct rotation position to pull it through a
compression stroke with the fuel injection pump in the run
position.(Easier to get the tractor to jump it again.)This is the manual
function to shut it down. No electricity required to keep it running.

Once running, the generator works using residual magnetism to flash the
fields to generate AC voltage. The battery is not needed for this to
function.

It was originally manufactured to hold a battery, but because this is only
used when required I don't see any reason to maintain another battery that
can be monumentally replaced using the lawn tractor battery to jump start
it.



Interesting... thanks for the detail.


I'm sure you'll put that information to good use. Snerk

On Apr 29, 12:36*am, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:28:32 -0400, Wayne.B

wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:08:15 -0700, jps wrote:

Yeah, glow plugs... I read somewhere that you can heat them with a blow
torch, but I think I'll stick with the "modern" engine versions.

I'm sure that's true -- *in the right environment and as a measure of
last resort. *Sort of like that trick where they use WD40 and a match
to remount tires on rims.

Heh. *

Yes, check back later to see if you still have any eye brows or skin
on your nose.

I think it is supposed to be starter fluid

http://gfretwell.com/humor/Howtoinflateatire.wmv

Yep!