On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:23:07 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:38:49 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

and how much of COBRA does the company pay after you get laid off?

oh. none.

It depends on the company. Centex paid my wife's COBRA until she got
another job. It only took a week but the deal was good for 6 months.
IBM kept people on the IBM insurance plan for up to 5 years in some of
the separation packages that were offered but one year was the norm.

there are very few IBM's in the world. IBM had a no layoff policy
until the mid 80's.

most companies don't pay COBRA. again you're putting faith in the rich
above common sense

On 20/04/2010 5:15 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:23:07 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:38:49 -0400, wrote:

and how much of COBRA does the company pay after you get laid off?

oh. none.

It depends on the company. Centex paid my wife's COBRA until she got
another job. It only took a week but the deal was good for 6 months.
IBM kept people on the IBM insurance plan for up to 5 years in some of
the separation packages that were offered but one year was the norm.

there are very few IBM's in the world. IBM had a no layoff policy
until the mid 80's.

most companies don't pay COBRA. again you're putting faith in the rich
above common sense

No, maybe unlike you he has faith in himslef and does not expect you to
pay for it.

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Time to ask, is our government serving us or are we serving the government?

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:30:36 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 20/04/2010 5:15 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:23:07 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 06:38:49 -0400, wrote:

and how much of COBRA does the company pay after you get laid off?

oh. none.

It depends on the company. Centex paid my wife's COBRA until she got
another job. It only took a week but the deal was good for 6 months.
IBM kept people on the IBM insurance plan for up to 5 years in some of
the separation packages that were offered but one year was the norm.

there are very few IBM's in the world. IBM had a no layoff policy
until the mid 80's.

most companies don't pay COBRA. again you're putting faith in the rich
above common sense

No, maybe unlike you he has faith in himslef and does not expect you to
pay for it.

ROFLMAO!!! me and 100,000,000 other hard working american middle
class members.

you guys keep pretending the middle class isnt having problems. that's
another sign of right wing delusions

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 02:09:23 -0400, wrote:






Maybe I am just putting faith in people choosing a good company to
work for.

gee. i used to work for ATT. an 18 BILLION dollar company. it doesn't
exist anymore.

funny how the right wing looks at middle class wager earners....then
at an 18 billion dollar company

and says the middle class is to blame for choosing the wrong company.

had nothing to do with ATT management, you see. they were rich. they
had wall street buddies. it COULDNT have been THEIR fault.

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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 06:30:21 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 02:09:23 -0400, wrote:






Maybe I am just putting faith in people choosing a good company to
work for.

gee. i used to work for ATT. an 18 BILLION dollar company. it doesn't
exist anymore.

funny how the right wing looks at middle class wager earners....then
at an 18 billion dollar company

and says the middle class is to blame for choosing the wrong company.

had nothing to do with ATT management, you see. they were rich. they
had wall street buddies. it COULDNT have been THEIR fault.


My brother in law just retired from Verizon and he has no complaints
about how former AT&T employees were treated.

I worked for NCR. ATT bought them. After I left. One of the two small
pensions I get. I still have breakfast once a month with a group of NCR
coworkers. They were there through the ATT years. Said ATT was a crap
manager, but they were treated well in the layoffs and retirements. And you
could have bought a lot of ATT stock at a discount and made a handsome
profit on it as an employee.

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:42:05 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:





My brother in law just retired from Verizon and he has no complaints
about how former AT&T employees were treated.

I worked for NCR. ATT bought them. After I left. One of the two small
pensions I get. I still have breakfast once a month with a group of NCR
coworkers. They were there through the ATT years. Said ATT was a crap
manager, but they were treated well in the layoffs and retirements. And you
could have bought a lot of ATT stock at a discount and made a handsome
profit on it as an employee.

i bought it at $55/share. it's now worth less than $1/share

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:44:29 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:13:49 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

And you
could have bought a lot of ATT stock at a discount and made a handsome
profit on it as an employee.

i bought it at $55/share. it's now worth less than $1/share


You can really pick them.

how many stockholders did ATT have?

you really are incredibly stupid. you give stupidity a whole new
definition.

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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:44:29 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:13:49 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

And you
could have bought a lot of ATT stock at a discount and made a handsome
profit on it as an employee.

i bought it at $55/share. it's now worth less than $1/share


You can really pick them.

how many stockholders did ATT have?

you really are incredibly stupid. you give stupidity a whole new
definition.


Actually it is worth a lot more than that. You will have some NCR, Comcast,
a semiconductor company (name escapes me at the moment) and a bunch of
others that may not amount to much.

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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:42:05 -0700, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


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On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 06:30:21 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 02:09:23 -0400, wrote:






Maybe I am just putting faith in people choosing a good company to
work for.

gee. i used to work for ATT. an 18 BILLION dollar company. it doesn't
exist anymore.

funny how the right wing looks at middle class wager earners....then
at an 18 billion dollar company

and says the middle class is to blame for choosing the wrong company.

had nothing to do with ATT management, you see. they were rich. they
had wall street buddies. it COULDNT have been THEIR fault.


My brother in law just retired from Verizon and he has no complaints
about how former AT&T employees were treated.

I worked for NCR. ATT bought them. After I left. One of the two small
pensions I get. I still have breakfast once a month with a group of NCR
coworkers. They were there through the ATT years. Said ATT was a crap
manager, but they were treated well in the layoffs and retirements. And
you
could have bought a lot of ATT stock at a discount and made a handsome
profit on it as an employee.


IBM was OK to me but like most people who wait for the later round of
layoffs the guys leaving now are taking a screwing.
There were actually better packages before I left but I believed them
when they said they would find me something to do.
In real life, I did get a lot of training and experience in other
things while I was searching for a better job. In the end there just
wasn't another job. Every one of the other services IBM thought was
going to be the answer, fizzled. I took the "30 and out".
I did get to learn LAN administration, Data cabling and connectivity,
TP/Network support, Physical Planning (designing computer rooms) and
database management (DB2 and SQL). I figured out dBase on my own.
When I left I had a lot of cards in my wallet.
The only one I cashed was my electrical inspectors license and I got
that on my own too.

My buddy from high school and I was in business with went through the same
thing. He was a Regional Specialist in San Francisco for IBM. I think he
really did not want another high tech job.

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:19:11 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 06:30:21 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 02:09:23 -0400, wrote:






Maybe I am just putting faith in people choosing a good company to
work for.

gee. i used to work for ATT. an 18 BILLION dollar company. it doesn't
exist anymore.

funny how the right wing looks at middle class wager earners....then
at an 18 billion dollar company

and says the middle class is to blame for choosing the wrong company.

had nothing to do with ATT management, you see. they were rich. they
had wall street buddies. it COULDNT have been THEIR fault.


My brother in law just retired from Verizon and he has no complaints
about how former AT&T employees were treated.

i know 125,000 former employees who would beg to differ