On Mar 31, 10:19*am, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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On Mar 31, 8:30 am, "mmc" wrote:





"Tim" wrote in message

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On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, hk wrote:

On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:

Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't
believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in
gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me.

Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take
much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one
pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then
wash them off and refill them?

My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the
pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate
baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a
cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the
end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the
baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in
there.

I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one
of the smaller ones aboard for food storage.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was
surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her
order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the
interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on
going with a couple of thin line 5 gal. heavy plastic containers with
either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply.

Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler!

--------

We freeze gallon jugs of juice and milk for camping and boating trips
(also
chicken and meat) and use this to keep other (non frozen) foods cold. We
use
everything as it thaws and this saves on ice and cuts out the water
pooling
in the bottom of the coolers..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Another reason why I wanted to 'try' to use the fridge is for weight.
50 lb fridge loaded is still lighter than a *couple big coolers loaded
with ice etc. and mroe compact too! *But then again, using a couple
more batteries etc it may be a toss up. But with the batteries etc I
can space them around th hull to where they're not sitting like a
chunk of lead (pardon the pun) in one spot.

That's what I'm looking for is to take advantage of wasted space and
weight distribution on the boat.

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A fridge would be nice.
Engle has some nice (and pricey) portable refers that run on 12vdc and are
very efficient. One of the features that makes them efficient is like boat
iceboxes, they are top loading and this helps to keep the cold air in,
instead of allowing it to spill out whenever the door is opened.
I would just make sure my boat (starting) battery is/can be isolated from
the house (fridge) so that you don't wake up to a long paddle to shore!
Arrgh!- Hide quoted text -

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Oh yes. a battery isolator is mandatory. Sure Power Industries has a
nice little isolator (Model 702) which is available though NAPA or
various places for about 40-50 bucks. But it's rated for a max of 70a.
I've got a good one around here that's up to 200. Not that it will be
that necessary, but it's available.

?;^ )


Wayne filled me in on the 12v top lids and yes they're pricy. I bought
my 12/120v Nord front loader from a guy that was scrapping out a
camper for $50.00 and it's in very good condition.

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 31, 10:19 am, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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On Mar 31, 8:30 am, "mmc" wrote:





"Tim" wrote in message

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On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, hk wrote:

On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:

Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't
believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in
gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me.

Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take
much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one
pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then
wash them off and refill them?

My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the
pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate
baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a
cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At
the
end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the
baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in
there.

I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take
one
of the smaller ones aboard for food storage.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was
surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her
order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the
interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on
going with a couple of thin line 5 gal. heavy plastic containers with
either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply.

Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler!

--------

We freeze gallon jugs of juice and milk for camping and boating trips
(also
chicken and meat) and use this to keep other (non frozen) foods cold. We
use
everything as it thaws and this saves on ice and cuts out the water
pooling
in the bottom of the coolers..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Another reason why I wanted to 'try' to use the fridge is for weight.
50 lb fridge loaded is still lighter than a couple big coolers loaded
with ice etc. and mroe compact too! But then again, using a couple
more batteries etc it may be a toss up. But with the batteries etc I
can space them around th hull to where they're not sitting like a
chunk of lead (pardon the pun) in one spot.

That's what I'm looking for is to take advantage of wasted space and
weight distribution on the boat.

---------
A fridge would be nice.
Engle has some nice (and pricey) portable refers that run on 12vdc and are
very efficient. One of the features that makes them efficient is like boat
iceboxes, they are top loading and this helps to keep the cold air in,
instead of allowing it to spill out whenever the door is opened.
I would just make sure my boat (starting) battery is/can be isolated from
the house (fridge) so that you don't wake up to a long paddle to shore!
Arrgh!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh yes. a battery isolator is mandatory. Sure Power Industries has a
nice little isolator (Model 702) which is available though NAPA or
various places for about 40-50 bucks. But it's rated for a max of 70a.
I've got a good one around here that's up to 200. Not that it will be
that necessary, but it's available.

?;^ )


Wayne filled me in on the 12v top lids and yes they're pricy. I bought
my 12/120v Nord front loader from a guy that was scrapping out a
camper for $50.00 and it's in very good condition.
---------
$50! I'd make it work too! Those Engel are very pricey.
you could probably get the isolator with a little picture of a boat on it
from Worst Mairne for double that?

On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Mar 30, 11:21*am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, *but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an *electric pump to a
hand held shower head. *I figure I'm adding about 300 + *lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) *but the boat
has a weight load *on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now *I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs *comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

Draining the water prevents stuff from floating around. :)
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a
hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat
has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep
stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).

I have great coolers and they are good for a day and a half maybe unless
you keep filling the ice. I don't know where you use your coolers but I
am out in 95 degree sun and very little shade in the summer, kind of
like in a boat

Scotty


You either have a bad cooler or you open it too much. Use more than one
cooler. One that is opened only 1 or two times a day and a 2nd that you use
for the drinks and diving in to. Load it each day from the cold cooler.

On Mar 31, 6:12*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Mar 30, 11:21 am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a
hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat
has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

Draining the water prevents stuff from floating around. :)
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Agreed, John. but there also goes a lot of the cold down the drain,
too!

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:44:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Mar 31, 6:12*pm, John H wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Mar 30, 11:21 am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a
hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat
has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

Draining the water prevents stuff from floating around. :)
--
John H

For a great time, go here first...http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

Agreed, John. but there also goes a lot of the cold down the drain,
too!

Actually, I don't have the water problem because I use frozen plastic bottles
full of water. But, I have a freezer which makes this an easy thing to do. They
last quite a while before the ice is completely melted. At that point you'd be
forced to go to bagged ice. But, unless you're constantly getting in and out of
a cooler, those bottles should keep things cold for more than a couple days.
--
John H

For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

In article ,
says...

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:09:08 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance.
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an electric pump to a
hand held shower head. I figure I'm adding about 300 + lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) but the boat
has a weight load on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

How long are you planning to be out for one trip? A good cooler will keep
stuff
cold for four or five days, and weigh a lot less than 50 pounds (empty).

I have great coolers and they are good for a day and a half maybe unless
you keep filling the ice. I don't know where you use your coolers but I
am out in 95 degree sun and very little shade in the summer, kind of
like in a boat

Scotty


You either have a bad cooler or you open it too much. Use more than one
cooler. One that is opened only 1 or two times a day and a 2nd that you use
for the drinks and diving in to. Load it each day from the cold cooler.

Probably open it a lot. At any given time there are at least a dozen on
our race team racing in. On weekends when I am in charge of drinks, I
bring three to four cases of water and gatoraide.

Scotty

--
For a great time, go here first... http://tinyurl.com/ygqxs5v

On 3/31/10 2:45 PM, I am Tosk wrote:

At about 6pm or so I will lock the bikes in the trailer and start
cooking and cleaning up the camp site from the day. Then I gather up the
kids and eat, she gets to sleep between 10 and 11, hey, kids gotta' have
some time with her friends. Sometimes after she's crashed, one of our
team makes a run to town for supplies, gas, ice, etc... Sometimes Brian
makes drinks and orders Dominoes, and some toothless old hippie pulls
out a weird little guitar The next morning it starts all over, except
instead of changing out filters and fluids at the end of the day, we
break down camp and head home. So, anybody seen the cooler???


What time does Tom Joad usually stop by?


"They stood on a Mountain and they looked to the West And it
looked like the promised land. That bright green valley with a
river running through, There was work for every single hand, they
thought, There was work for every single hand.
The Joads rolled away to Jungle Camp, There they cooked a stew.
And the hungry little kids of the Jungle Camp Said: "We'd like to
have some too." Said: "We'd like to have some too."
--Woody Guthrie



--
Conservatives - just pretend Obama's health care legislation is another
unnecessary war and you'll feel better about it.

On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 07:48:44 -0400, hk wrote:

On 3/31/10 2:45 PM, I am Tosk wrote:

At about 6pm or so I will lock the bikes in the trailer and start
cooking and cleaning up the camp site from the day. Then I gather up the
kids and eat, she gets to sleep between 10 and 11, hey, kids gotta' have
some time with her friends. Sometimes after she's crashed, one of our
team makes a run to town for supplies, gas, ice, etc... Sometimes Brian
makes drinks and orders Dominoes, and some toothless old hippie pulls
out a weird little guitar The next morning it starts all over, except
instead of changing out filters and fluids at the end of the day, we
break down camp and head home. So, anybody seen the cooler???


What time does Tom Joad usually stop by?


"They stood on a Mountain and they looked to the West And it
looked like the promised land. That bright green valley with a
river running through, There was work for every single hand, they
thought, There was work for every single hand.
The Joads rolled away to Jungle Camp, There they cooked a stew.
And the hungry little kids of the Jungle Camp Said: "We'd like to
have some too." Said: "We'd like to have some too."
--Woody Guthrie

Snotty thinks he's a toothless old hippie.

I'm sure he's got the toothless part right.